vrykolakas the sin

[Behemoth legend]

Vrykolakas The Sin
lv 5 darkness fiend
atk 2500 def 2100

Each time a normal summon has occured you may place 1 sin counter on this card (max 12) you can select one of following effects
.1; each player discards there hand and draw 3 cards.
.2:Select one monster lv 5 or less from your hand and special summon it in faced up attack or deffence persition.
4.: this card becomes 4000 atttack until your oppents next standby phrase this is unable to attack if this card has any sin counters on it.

also am not to check the spelling becouse of one of eyes could also if i spelled anything wrong would please ocrrect it for me

[Bringerofcake]

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Vrykolakas The Sin
lv 5 darkness fiend
atk 2500 def 2100

Each time a normal summon has occured you may place 1 sin counter on this card (max 12) you can select one of following effects
.1; each player discards there hand and draw 3 cards.
.2:Select one monster lv 5 or less from your hand and special summon it in faced up attack or deffence persition.
4.: this card becomes 4000 atttack until your oppents next standby phrase this is unable to attack if this card has any sin counters on it.

also am not to check the spelling becouse of one of eyes could also if i spelled anything wrong would please ocrrect it for me
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THE SIN: Vrykolakas
DARK
Fiend/Effect
5/2500/2100
Each time a player Normal Summons a monster, place 1 Sin Counter on this card (max. 12) Once per turn, you can select and activate one of the following effects by removing the appropriate amount of Sin Counters from this card:
~1 Counter: Both players discard their hand and draw 3 cards.
~2 Counters: Special Summon 1 Level 5 or lower monster from your hand.
~4 Counters: The ATK of this card becomes 4000 until your opponent's next Standby Phase. This card cannot attack if it has no Sin Counters on it.

This is ungainfully broken. 1 Normal Summon is Morphing Jar, and 4 is Obelisk. Not to mention it's a 1 Tribute that's more powerful than Monarchs, shattering any precedent there. It's far too broken to NOT be banned.

[Goodnight]

Summoned Skull is a 1 tribute monster with 2500 attack, so it isn't setting any precedents there. Frostasaurus is 2600atk.
Is ti a good effect? absolutely not, however I wouldn't say it's broken.
to tribute a card to summon athis monster takes up 1 turn's normal summon, so it has to survive at least 1 more turn to even get its effect. It's rare for any monster to stay on the field for 2 turns, let alone 4.

[Kyakan]

[quote name='Goodnight' timestamp='1290412059' post='4802660']
Summoned Skull is a 1 tribute monster with 2500 attack, so it isn't setting any precedents there. Frostasaurus is 2600atk.
Is ti a good effect? absolutely not, however I wouldn't say it's broken.
to tribute a card to summon athis monster takes up 1 turn's normal summon, so it has to survive at least 1 more turn to even get its effect. It's rare for any monster to stay on the field for 2 turns, let alone 4.
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Summoned skull can't summon an extra level 5 monster every 2 turns, and turn into Obelisk the Tormentor every 4. And yes, it is quite common for monsters you [i]want[/i] to keep on the field, to [i]stay[/i] on the field. And if you have Ultimate Offering, this card becomes even more powerful.

[Bringerofcake]

[quote name='Goodnight' timestamp='1290412059' post='4802660']
Summoned Skull is a 1 tribute monster with 2500 attack, so it isn't setting any precedents there. Frostasaurus is 2600atk.
Is ti a good effect? absolutely not, however I wouldn't say it's broken.
to tribute a card to summon athis monster takes up 1 turn's normal summon, so it has to survive at least 1 more turn to even get its effect. It's rare for any monster to stay on the field for 2 turns, let alone 4.
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I'll give you that the issue isn't really the ATK in relation to the Level. But this is clearly a case of too much advantage for too little cost.

And like the above user says, there is no reason that Normal Summons are limited to 1 a turn. Ultimate Offering, Brain Research Lab, and Double Summon can increase the number of Sin Counters, and it only takes one to clear out your opponent's hand.

[quote name='Goodnight' timestamp='1290412059' post='4802660']
Summoned Skull is a 1 tribute monster with 2500 attack, so it isn't setting any precedents there. Frostasaurus is 2600atk.
Is ti a good effect? absolutely not, however I wouldn't say it's broken.
to tribute a card to summon athis monster takes up 1 turn's normal summon, so it has to survive at least 1 more turn to even get its effect. It's rare for any monster to stay on the field for 2 turns, let alone 4.
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I'll give you that the issue isn't really the ATK in relation to the Level. But this is clearly a case of too much advantage for too little cost.

And like the above user says, there is no reason that Normal Summons are limited to 1 a turn. Ultimate Offering, Brain Research Lab, and Double Summon can increase the number of Sin Counters, and it only takes one to clear out your opponent's hand.