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Bahamut - Envoy of the End

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1st of December today (Cue '...and a partridge in a pear tree'). So it is now okay in my mind to start discussing a certain holiday that is in just a few weeks. But rather than have the whole of this section bombarded with a hundred different threads that are all about the same thing, thought it would be rather good of me to make one big thread here to contain it all. And isn't that what Christmas is suppossed to be about right, good will to all men and all that?

Anyway, done some of my shopping today. Having to endure the same terrible songs, but could have been worse as none of the X-Factor money spinning Xmas number ones came on. Thank goodness. Got most of mine done actually, seeing as I just gave my sisters a load of money so they can handle it and get everyone something on all our behalf, sorted :lol: . Got the girls themselves itunes vouchers, which I think is a really crappy present but it's what they want.

Also spending most of my working day setting up function rooms for Christmas parties, and the subsequent waitering on them. Will put some pictures up soon, as I'm quite happy with the work me and the team did decorating.

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(Mostly) Unrelated: I hate how everyone says "Don't be a humbug" or "it's bah humbug" without understanding what they're saying. Humbug basically means nonsense, and the "bah" part is basically a grunt or a noise of frustration that should be followed by a comma. Sort of like "Ah" or "Ooh", just a different emotion.

Related: Not doing much for Christmas this year. Not a lot of cash coming in, and everyone in the household is pretty much adults now.
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[s]Are there even any Jewish people on this website? I mean seriously, don't we get a Hanukkah Thread? Not that I care too much, but I mean, currently it's Hanukkah; you Christmas people have 24 days to go now :T

Discrimination![/s]

I like those chocolate calendars where you eat one everyday till Christmas day comes, and the last chocolate is pretty much huge.

I also decorate the tree with my Christian friend and it's a lot of fun~ 'cause she invites all her Jewish friends and we do it together, lol.
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Pictures from work. I'm bloody proud of the job we did, and the customers have liked it.

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Finishing my Xmas shopping tomorrow, getting my sister Twilight (that's a point, i don't know whether she wants book or dvd :huh: ).

The best thing is Christmas Dinner, having a big old sit-down meal with family, and lots of bread sauce... and apple sauce... hmmm... sauce...

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Conference Centre.

We have some big function rooms, several smaller meeting rooms, four bars, a theatre, and a sports arena and gym (plus Kids Play which is the one place I never work thank goodness).

This is our biggest room, which seats about 300 for a banquet which there are lot of at the moment.

Plus we have people rehearsing for the panto (Aladdin) at the minute in our private rooms.

It's pretty awesome, but the hours can be sporadic.
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[quote name='Opalmoon' timestamp='1291667127' post='4834315']
Aww this looked lovely with the Christmas tables.:3

Also OT, I always get these Jehova's witnesses magazines in Italian because I have an Italian name and today I got an edition about why celebrating Christmas is bad (it's against their beliefs). Thank you funspoilers.>_>
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There is a guy who lives near my house, (I don't know him personally) that, as I understand, was raised as a Jahova's witness. Now that he's an adult, he decorates his house with such a ridiculous amount of lawn ornaments and lights on Christmas and Halloween that you can barely see his house. From what I understand, it's kind of a "Take That!" to his upbringing.
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[quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1291767966' post='4836858']
There is a guy who lives near my house, (I don't know him personally) that, as I understand, was raised as a Jahova's witness. Now that he's an adult, he decorates his house with such a ridiculous amount of lawn ornaments and lights on Christmas and Halloween that you can barely see his house. From what I understand, it's kind of a "Take That!" to his upbringing.
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I don't understand Christmas decs. Just a tree and a wreath, bit of tinsel, job done. A shed load of flashing lights and inflatables is just... trashy...

Anyway shopping done, I want to do something cooking wise though on Christmas day. No doubt that my sister will ban me from the kitchen. Not that I'm a bad cook but she likes full control.

I love Christmas dinner. I love the stuffing and all the sauces.
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Ah, Christmas.
Really, I am so glad that it is right smack next to Thanksgiving, since I am eating delicious food two months in a row.
The amout of food that is prepared is enormous, and we always have leftovers the next day. And the next. And so on.
And to top it all off, Imma gettin gifts the next day.
Between my time in the kitchen and the pure joy of getting presents make me all warm inside, as does the rest of the country.

Well, shoot.
I forgot that I need to get to Christmas shopping. Why must the holiday approach so fast?
I guess I'll swing over to the mall this weekend.
Anyone know of any good gifts on the market?
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[quote name="Matt Bahamut"]
If it's to do with Christmas, put it here[/quote]

No.

These types of threads, and in particular the locking and redirecting of legitimate threads to these types of threads, encourages random dissonant topic-starting-style posts with nothing to do with eachother but the shared relevance to the broad topic in question as opposed to legitimate discussions in which posts are made in a structured sequence based on previous posts.

They sacrifice thoughtful posts in which there's actually a possibility of consideration and shaping of one's opinion for first-page space openings for less important topics avoiding categorization as suitable for any generalized thread and as a result, nobody's interested in the less important topics outside of the generalized threads. Let's not forget that nobody's interested in random dissonant topic-starter-style posts in the generalized topics either as people rarely ever come to the generalized topics except to add to the dissonant topic-starter-style posts as opposed to replying to someone else's topic-starter-style comment and causing a discussion, which is the case with seperated topics to do with the broad topic in question.

[b]My point here's that generalized topics are BAD because they discourage thoughtful posts which people are more likely to care about in favor of promoting posts nobody in their right mind would care about.[/b] Not to mention resultant inactivity of members who've had enough of posts they aren't interested and of nobody being interested in their posts. This type of apathy is cancerous. Generalized threads are partly responsible for the shitty YCM which is making good members lose interest. In future, please don't restrict broad subjects with many sub-topics to a massive generalized thread and drive YCM deeper into the shithole it's already in. Thanks.
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^cool backseat-modding bro =3

[quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1291767966' post='4836858']
There is a guy who lives near my house, (I don't know him personally) that, as I understand, was raised as a Jahova's witness. Now that he's an adult, he decorates his house with such a ridiculous amount of lawn ornaments and lights on Christmas and Halloween that you can barely see his house. From what I understand, it's kind of a "Take That!" to his upbringing.
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Well at least he understood what he's missing on.=D I know a lot of these "take dat parentz!" from young people, there are also some who refuse to celebrate...well pretty much anything because it has a semi-eligious undertaste on it. Even though nowadays Santa has gained almost more popularity than the religious undertones so the rents aren't taking much really.=3
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[quote name='Opalmoon']
^cool backseat-modding bro =3[/quote]

Administration's forging the rules and traditions to be enforced and implemented respectively. "Modding"'s enforcing the rules and implementing the traditions. "Backseat modding"'s enforcing the rules and implementing traditions when you're not in the position to do so. I'm not enforcing the rules or implementing traditions, I'm making a friendly suggestion as a concerned member of the board to take actions contrary to practicing these traditions in an effort to eventually change the traditions because the traditions aren't working. The members cannot act as mods (backseat modding), but have a say in how the board should be administated. This's how the system is supposed to work. The fault lies in the improper administation on certain mods' parts in forging a flawed tradition.
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^That's what the Report Button is for.

There's always a fun competition in town on whose house has the nicest decorations. It's nice to drive through all the neighborhoods and see all the pretty lights. (We never win, but we're not really participating) =p

Not gonna have much of a Christmas this year. Everyone's kinda busy and money's a little tight. We're mainly doing it for the kids in the family.
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On-topic:

I'm working overtime this month with all the Christmas parties, the panto, and all the other stuff going on. Was asked if I was available this morning to do theatre. Give up three hours of my Saturday to clean up after obnoxious celebrities dressing rooms for 15 quid? No I wasn't ;)

Well it's now 2 weeks today. There are still no decorations up at my house because my dad is a miserable (deleted), quote 'Christmas is cancelled, it's just another working day, etc'. :( Thankfully I'm going over to mums and spending most of my birthday and Christmas Day with her half of family which will be great, before going to dad's parents on Boxing Day to see the other half.

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[quote name='Petrosian' timestamp='1291957762' post='4841123']
No.

These types of threads, and in particular the locking and redirecting of legitimate threads to these types of threads, encourages random dissonant topic-starting-style posts with nothing to do with each other but the shared relevance to the broad topic in question as opposed to legitimate discussions in which posts are made in a structured sequence based on previous posts.

[b]So you'd prefer it if we have seperate deep, provocative topics on: Christmas shopping, Christmas decorations, the lack of snow in your area, the abundance of snow in your area, what you want for Christmas, what you subsequently got for Christmas, how annoying charting Christmas songs are, do you believe in Santa, where you're spending Christmas and who with, how much you're going to eat and drink, if you hate Christmas period, etc, etc, etc? All with about 2 replies each, and completely clogging up the entire sub-forum and shoving everything else to page two. Really?[/b]

They sacrifice thoughtful posts in which there's actually a possibility of consideration and shaping of one's opinion for first-page space openings for less important topics avoiding categorization as suitable for any generalized thread and as a result, nobody's interested in the less important topics outside of the generalized threads. Let's not forget that nobody's interested in random dissonant topic-starter-style posts in the generalized topics either as people rarely ever come to the generalized topics except to add to the dissonant topic-starter-style posts as opposed to replying to someone else's topic-starter-style comment and causing a discussion, which is the case with seperated topics to do with the broad topic in question.

[b]Nobody's interested? This thread has just hit page two, and will probably boom in the more immediant run-up. That's hardly 'nobody's interested'. In regards this sub-forum, my previous topic in here - 'King For A Day' - got three pages of great replies and had lots of interaction and was very 'thought provoking' with just a one-sentence question. Don't mix up 'everybody' and 'yourself', it's a bad habit to get into.[/b]

My point here's that generalized topics are BAD because they discourage thoughtful posts which people are more likely to care about in favor of promoting posts nobody in their right mind would care about. Not to mention resultant inactivity of members who've had enough of posts they aren't interested and of nobody being interested in their posts. This type of apathy is cancerous. Generalized threads are partly responsible for the shitty YCM which is making good members lose interest. In future, please don't restrict broad subjects with many sub-topics to a massive generalized thread and drive YCM deeper into the shithole it's already in. Thanks.

[b]There is absolutly no way you can back that up. The quality of a persons posts are down to the person replying and how in depth they want to be. Let's take exam questions for example: they are always viciously vague, and you're expected to write a 10 point thoughtful answer. There will always be some people who just want to xerox their own thoughts without reading others, but I think you'll find there has been a lot of interact and interest between the people who have posted in this thread. I've had a couple of compliments about the photos I put up. Not all topics require an essay of a post, this is supposed to be cheery thread that the majority can get involved with if they choose to. That's a key point, general threads allow for more people to be able to contribute, rather than a specific topic aimed at a few. If I had instead started a topic solely on 'How rubbish it is that it rarely snows in England', I would have exiled about 95% of the users from being able to contribute an opinion. [/b]
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Finally, if people aren't interested, they don't post. People come and go, the site moves on. But what really drags YCM into the 'shithole' is miserable six-star members who feel superior to everyone who has joined later, can't accept change to the forum, and just pick holes in everything to spoil everyone else's fun. Sad. Thanks.
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To be honest, Petrosian didn't do anything wrong except being off-topic. Other than that, he made a point and voiced his opinion, that's perfectly allowed. Backseat modding is something slightly different. Sure, it can rile the thread creator up a bit, but this time there wasn't anything intrinsically wrong with his posts. Whether his standpoint is valid or not is something different, that I'd prefer you didn't discuss here as it'd derail the thread even further.

OT: I'm dealing with some serious family issues right now that probably won't allow me to celebrate properly, though I still want to sit down with my parents on Christmas Eve if I have the chance. Gotta buy something for my brother and my girlfriend, but God knows when I'll have the time, especially with exams coming in January. :/
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No one ever celebrates the birth of a certain Jesus, so no one truly celebrates Christmas. It's become modernized where we give each other gifts to stimulate the economy and to generate revenue for big companies. Which I don't mind one bit, but I doubt any person in this thread, Christian or not, really wakes up Christmas morning and is happy that Jesus was apparently born on that day.

As such, I don't have a generic Christmas. My dad is Catholic (I think, something like that), but isn't too religious to deal with this crap, and my mom isn't Christian, so I just order my gifts from Amazon or something and they come whenever they come. I don't have a generic wake-up-on-Christmas-day-and-look-at-gifts experience that most people do; not for the past five or six years, at least.

I think I've already stated my 2010 Christmas list, but I'll post it in General now.

2GB SD Card
Okami
Mario Kart Wii
Classic Controller Pro

It's funny how all four items are for my Wii. I've invested so much into that damn console; in total, I'm probably running upwards of 1400 dollars.
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The family insisted on getting the Christmas Tree up, so that got done. I didn't help, I just bitched and moaned about how decorating for Christmas is unnecessary.

Frankly, the only reason we are even bothering with Christmas in general is because of my Nephew, who may or may not even be here come Christmas Day, which I find very irritating.

Out of interest, just how odd would it be to have a warmed-up take-away dinner instead of the traditional Christmas roast?
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