CinnamonStar Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 [s]Wow how fast that you found that out now.[/s] Meh obviously religious transfering is something that has always existed, Hermes-Thoth and all the gods with similar attributes put together, and especially during the Hellenistic late Antiquity it was common. The bynames of the kings were often drawn from foreign deities or the way they were venerated on coins for example (calling someone "Nicator" isn't really a typical Seleucid byname). It's not necessarily "stealing", it's simply a process of cultures meeting each other. See religious patchworking. IMO there is only so and so much fancy stuff that you can attribute to a god so obviously you'll find a similar one in a different country. The new thing here is that Jesus is not a god though and he's not venerated as such. The god is a different one in that religion. And then there are the different translations of scriptures so it's pretty certain that people have often mixed up things together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sаmurai Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 I doubt anyone cares. I'm thinking that the majority of people on this forum (like on most internet forums) are atheist, so of course you're going to go on a long religious rant trying to disprove God, and to me it is offensive as I am a believer in Jah myself, but then again you're still entitled to your opinion, just don't force it upon others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowferret Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 That is interesting... maybe it's just because I am Catholic, but I see this as maybe a sign that religions have some truth behind them? Sure, it could be they just copied each other, but what reason would someone have to do that? Maybe I'm blinded by my faith, but I perceive those similarities as saying "All the religions are based off the same events, so they (likely) have truth behind them". It's kinda neat, either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 inb4somestupidpersonsaysthey'reallrealandbasedonthesamepersonandstuff Wait, someone actually did it. OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. OT: Religion basically copies other cool ideas. Same with all cultures back then. There was no copyright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Religion is philosophically and politically dubious, and although some good actions have come out of religion and faith, "the cons outweigh the pros" as some might say. "Politics has slain it's thousands, but religion has slain it's tens of thousands." - Sean O'Casey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 The law is my religion, if I don't follow it I'll be [acronym='raped']torn apart and eaten[/acronym] by demons in the [acronym='showers']pits of he~ll[/acronym] Well, I have no father and I can use magic. Maybe if I just change my name to Emmanuel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 @shadowferret That is about the smartest thing a christian could say to prove god (I could be wrong about that though.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Starrk Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 [quote name='tonymann' timestamp='1292454309' post='4855506'] @shadowferret That is about the smartest thing a [b]Catholic[/b] could say to prove god (I could be wrong about that though.) [/quote] Fixed. It's very interesting. However, I feel that If one original Religion was the base, and the others were similar, then there would be no point to have other religions if they are similarly connected by odd coincidences. It's like the Dungeon Dice Monsters of Religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 [quote name='LiAM' timestamp='1292022792' post='4842485'] I watched a massive video called 'Zeitgeist',[/quote] Stopped reading here. Have fun with your tinfoil hats ladies and gentlemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiAM Posted December 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1292460645' post='4855809'] Stopped reading here. Have fun with your tinfoil hats ladies and gentlemen. [/quote] That was such a narrow minded thing to actually say. It's a method of giving information just as much as writing. What you're saying is because it's a video, that it's all wrong. So retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 [quote name='LiAM' timestamp='1292513783' post='4856844'] That was such a narrow minded thing to actually say. It's a method of giving information just as much as writing. What you're saying is because it's a video, that it's all wrong. So retarded. [/quote] Keyword is "Zeitgeist". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiAM Posted December 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 [quote name='Hakurei Reimu' timestamp='1292534249' post='4857512'] Keyword is "Zeitgeist". [/quote] German for 'timespirit'. General view of what's popular at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon© Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 If only Dark was here (did he leave? I'm not sure, I left for a while myself....) But yeah, (*inserts religion rant here*) But how can you have baby without breaking your virginity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagamine Len Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='Coyote Starrk' timestamp='1292455936' post='4855591'] [quote name='tonymann' timestamp='1292454309' post='4855506'] @shadowferret That is about the smartest thing a [b]christian[/b] could say to prove god (I could be wrong about that though.) [/quote] Fixed. It's very interesting. However, I feel that If one original Religion was the base, and the others were similar, then there would be no point to have other religions if they are similarly connected by odd coincidences. It's like the Dungeon Dice Monsters of Religion. [/quote] Fixed your fix. Catholics [i]are[/i] christian. I wouldn't have pointed this out if you hadn't 'fixed' it. OT: I agree with tonymann. More people with the same idea means more proof of the events. Although, whether they mean one thing or another is debatable. I'll stick with that Jesus was born, did great things, died, and helped billions find faith in God through him. And a bit more to ferret: Anser to your confusion is why there is Catholicism and Protestantism. A group of Christians find evidence that Catholics are sinning, through technicalities and that the future Protestants believe some of the Catholic Bible is wrong. They split and become and almost seperate religion. Ironic that they split from apparent ignorant Christians, yet become just as much so themselves. But it's history, it'll repeat. Minor rant, but I proved my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Starrk Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='Nobuyuki' timestamp='1292893655' post='4869201'] Fixed your fix. Catholics [i]are[/i] christian. I wouldn't have pointed this out if you hadn't 'fixed' it. OT: I agree with tonymann. More people with the same idea means more proof of the events. Although, whether they mean one thing or another is debatable. I'll stick with that Jesus was born, did great things, died, and helped millions find faith in God through him. [/quote] Absolutely not. Catholics ARE NOT Christians. http://www.justforcatholics.org/a19.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Requiem Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Jesus' birth is controversial some say it was December 25th, but there are other say he was born a few weeks later in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kagamine Len Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='Coyote Starrk' timestamp='1292893827' post='4869209'] Absolutely not. Catholics ARE NOT Christians. http://www.justforcatholics.org/a19.htm [/quote] And yet I am told by everything Catholic that they are. Wish I could provide evidence, but word of mouth causes that. But one thing that proves it: Catholics believe in Jesus. Anyone who does is Christian because of "Jesus [i]Christ[/i]". By the way, skimmed through what was said. Only evidence to support your claim is that not everything Catholic is in the Bible. So this means it isn't Christian? No, just means the Bible isn't the only source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Starrk Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='Nobuyuki' timestamp='1292894766' post='4869249'] And yet I am told by everything Catholic that they are. Wish I could provide evidence, but word of mouth causes that. But one thing that proves it: Catholics believe in Jesus. Anyone who does is Christian because of "Jesus [i]Christ[/i]". By the way, skimmed through what was said. Only evidence to support your claim is that not everything Catholic is in the Bible. So this means it isn't Christian? No, just means the Bible isn't the only source. [/quote] Catholics believe in God and Jesus Christ. However, they believe that some different events occurred during the time of Jesus. But, however, I also agree that they I guess are basically the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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