azzyakbar Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Hey there, azaakbar here. I could really use a bit of help with a deck I'm thinking of running, so this really just like off the top of my head. I'm really open to strategy improvements, and other card deductions and additions, so help me out here. I don't have this deck at the moment, but I'm looking to run one. Monsters: 1x Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare 1x Yubel - Terror Incarnate 2x Yubel 2x Elemental Hero Neos 3x Elemental Hero Neos Alius 1x Belial - Marquis of Darkness 1x Marshmallon 3x Renge, Gatekeeper of the Dark World 1x Dark Nephthys 1x Caius The Shadow Monarch 2x Neos Wiseman 2x Evil Hero Infernal Gainer 1x Mystic Tomato Spells: 1x Lightning Vortex 2x Mystical Space Typhoon 2x Dark Eruption 2x Fires of Doomsday 2x Ancient Rules 2x Double Summon 2x Fake Hero 2x Foolish Burial 1x Monster Reborn 1x Dark Hole 1x Premature Burial Traps: 2x Escape from the Dark Dimension 3x Royal Decree TOTAL: 44 cards Way too many cards, I know, and probably a ridiculous put together, but give me some ideas guys, I really need the help and I really like this deck idea. Basic lockdown and then beatdown with Neos Wiseman and Yubel UT. I was thinking of removing from play, recovering or sending to Graveyard then re-summoning to make it easier. I can give you justifications for most cards as to why I put them. Thanks guys! +5 rep for those who help me all the way through to the final deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 I would say only work on one goal. Either build a deck around Wiseman or Ultimate Nightmare. Thus way, it looks like it would be way to inconsistent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Premature is banned, brah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzyakbar Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Crap, I forgot Premature was banned, dammit. Thanks for the reminder And with Wiseman or UT, do you reccomend I just cut Terror Incarnate and UT and triple up Wiseman and Yubel? Tbh, I think a Wiseman deck would be better than UT as Wiseman's can't be destroyed by card effects, so getting it out would be a stronger lockdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Go for a Wiseman deck, they are so fun to use. For starters. x3 Yubel x3 Neos x2 Prisma x1 Stratos x3 Mystic Tomato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzyakbar Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 With Mystic Tomato, I'd prefer to run 2, as Dark Eruptions gives me DARK monsters with 1500 or less ATK to my hand from the Graveyard. Paired with Foolish Burial, it's probably quicker. With Prisma, wouldn't I require a couple of cards in the Extra Deck, which might be unneccesary? How about: 3x Yubel 3x Neos 1x Prisma 2x Stratos 2x Mystic Tomato Thanks for the help though, I really need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='azaakbar' timestamp='1292956669' post='4871196'] With Mystic Tomato, I'd prefer to run 2, as Dark Eruptions gives me DARK monsters with 1500 or less ATK to my hand from the Graveyard. Paired with Foolish Burial, it's probably quicker. With Prisma, wouldn't I require a couple of cards in the Extra Deck, which might be unneccesary? How about: 3x Yubel 3x Neos 1x Prisma 2x Stratos 2x Mystic Tomato Thanks for the help though, I really need it. [/quote] Statos is limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 reads - *sprays coffee all over screen* These high levels need to go out of this deck straight to the yard and fast. ok - goodbye royal decrees - we need that space for limit reverse - it can summon yubel and activate her effect in one swoop - we need armageddon knight and prisma - they can send neos and yubel to the yard Both Prisma and Armageddon can be searched with Rota - Your tomatoes are fine. They can get armageddon knight. Yeah let's start there - listen to zero as well- you know we've got to give you some homework - go to your preferred search engine and type in the neos wiseman deck and see what your results find for you as a template. *edit*maybe O-Oversoul and Birthright - actually for neos there are many options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzyakbar Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Oh for....I really need to look at the list again xD[quote name='eviljudai' timestamp='1292957887' post='4871241'] reads - *sprays coffee all over screen* I thought for a moment I was watching the sixth sense because ' I see dead hands ' Ummm dear god those high levels need to go out of this deck straight to the yard and fast. ok - goodbye royal decrees - we need that space for limit reverse - it can summon yubel and activate her effect in one swoop - we need armageddon knight and prisma - they can send neos and yubel to the yard and someone get me a hot nonfat grande latte - this one's cold (jkz) Both Prisma and Armageddon can be searched with Rota - Your tomatoes are fine. They can get armageddon knight. Yeah let's start there - listen to zero as well- you know we've got to give you some homework - go to your preferred search engine and type in the neos wiseman deck and see what your results find for you as a template. [/quote] LOL. I had a feeling there were far too many high levels. I'd be drawing cards and be like...fudgecake. I typed in Neos Wiseman deck, (before this post) so the template is kind of similar, less E-Hero's in mine though. Monsters x24 Neos Wiseman x3 Yubel x2 Yubel - Terror Incarnate x1 Yubel - Ultimate Nightmare x1 Elemental Hero Prisma x3 Elemental Hero Neos x3 Mystic Tomato x3 Caclulator x3 Snipe Hunter x1 Armageddon Knight x2 Dark Grepher x2 Magic x8 Foolish Burial x2 RotA x3 Monster Reborn x1 Heavy Storm x1 MST x1 Traps x8 Limit Reverse x3 Metal Reflect Slime x3 Battle Mania x2 That's off TCGplayer.com. OK, tbh, I dunno if I can get my hands on 3 Neos Wisemen, I live in the UK, so they'd be more expensive here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='azaakbar' timestamp='1292956669' post='4871196'] With Mystic Tomato, I'd prefer to run 2, as Dark Eruptions gives me DARK monsters with 1500 or less ATK to my hand from the Graveyard. Paired with Foolish Burial, it's probably quicker. [b]Suicide a Tomato and get Yubel. Proceed to use Prisma's effect on Neos and you got Wiseman in MP2....I don't see a problem with this?[/b] With Prisma, wouldn't I require a couple of cards in the Extra Deck, which might be unneccesary? [b]It would only require 1 card that list Neos as a Fusion Material, not a big deal.[/b] How about: 3x Yubel 3x Neos 1x Prisma 2x Stratos 2x Mystic Tomato Thanks for the help though, I really need it. [b]Stratos is limited, and Prisma is the 2nd (or 3rd depending on Alius) best Hero...and it's the main way to get Wiseman.[/b] [/quote] There is no need to waste your time summoning Neos as he will only cause the deck to slow down and be inconsistent. Ditching him with Prisma is the best option. Limit Reverse *as stated by someone* will work with Yubel so put a couple in. EDIT: The deck you found is trash, there is no need to run the other versions of Yubel, that is not the focus of the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzyakbar Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 OK, so how about these for the monsters considering the comments so far: 3x Yubel 2x Neos Wiseman (they're expensive, d00d.) 2x Mystic Tomato 2x Elemental Hero Prisma (they're also expensive, d00d.) 3x Elemental Hero Neos Alius 3X Elemental Hero Neos 1x Marshmallon (stalling purposes) Combined with these spells: 2x Foolish Burial (to work with Limit Reverse) 2x Dark Eruptions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Here is the one my friend is going for...some of the cards are too expensive so he's making do atm. Monsters x21 Neos Wiseman x3 Yubel x3 Elemntal Hero Stratos x1 Elemntal Hero Neos Alius x3 Elemental Hero Prisma x3 Elemental Hero Neos x3 Mystic Tomato x3 Elemental Hero Ocean x2 Spells x12 Foolish Burial x1 RotA x1 E- Emergency Call x3 Monster Reborn x1 Dark Hole x1 MST x2 Super Poly x1 Miracle Fusion x2 Traps x7 Mirror Force x1 Torrential Tribute x1 Limit Reverse x3 Call of the Haunted x1 Solemn Judgment x1 Extra: At least 1 card with Neos as Fusion Material Absolute Zero x3 Great Tornado x3 The Shining x3 Gaia x3 Use the Omni Hero's (Zero/Gaia/ect) to hold your own until you can get setup for Wiseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 here let me take a shot at this Neos x3 Yubel x3 Prisma x2 Stratos Armageddon x2 Mystic Tomato x3 Dandylion x2 Ryko x3 Chaos Sorc x2 Plaguespreader Spore Rota Allure Dark Hole Reborn Mst x2 Foolish Limit Reverse x3 Bottomless x2 Solemn Judgment Mirror Force Battle Mania Dimensional Prison x2 *edit* lolz - just saw zero's deck - I like his a lot actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzyakbar Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Both decks are good, but not really agreeing with all the cards I got.... =( Would it be possible to run a Neos Wiseman deck without too many E-Heros? I don't really have many, and neither would I like to have many. I have loads of Dark monsters... (sorry for being so fussy, but remember, your tolerance will earn your +5 rep =D) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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