.Frostpaw Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Many Christians have asked me "You don't believe in God, so you worship Satan, right?" Every time, I explain that I don't believe in 'God,' so I don't believe in 'Satan.' Anyone else been asked this? Discuss logic fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yang Xiao-Long Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 They're making sure you don't worship Satan.If they respect your opinion enough they'll ask you something else first. Like if you're an atheist. Or at my high school, a Presbyterian under the school bleachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Frostpaw Posted January 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 They're making sure you don't worship Satan.If they respect your opinion enough they'll ask you something else first. Like if you're an atheist. Or at my high school, a Presbyterian under the school bleachers. Yet 'God' is the only reason 'Satan' is in 'Hell' iirc. Just curious, but is bribery bad in the bible? Because I remember the one church I was sent to during visitation told kids that if they brought a bible, they got a free KrispyKreme doughnut. When I was in said church, and didn't sing their songs, they stared at me like i had murdered someone... EDIT: After reading up on it, I think I might want to worship Satan. Apparently, Satanism existed before Christianity. Also, it is said that Christians erased the good image of Satanism by killing everyone who worshipped it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yang Xiao-Long Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Bribery is a sign of corruption. However, in the case of the church you visited, it's to motivate the kids to bring their Bibles. And not singing songs in certain churches will get you that reaction. They might or might not get over you not singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Frostpaw Posted January 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Bribery is a sign of corruption. However, in the case of the church you visited, it's to motivate the kids to bring their Bibles. And not singing songs in certain churches will get you that reaction. They might or might not get over you not singing. Then my dad sent me to a summer day-camp several years ago. They insisted that you pray and thank god for lunch. The bread has stale, and the grilled chicken was rubbery. You couldn't even chew it... When I didn't pray they took my meal. TBQH, I didn't give a damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu. Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 After reading up on it, I think I might want to worship Satan. Apparently, Satanism existed before Christianity. Also, it is said that Christians erased the good image of Satanism by killing everyone who worshipped it. It's only logical that Satanism came before Christianity, as Christianity was formed as a belief not long after Christ's death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yang Xiao-Long Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 I never pray for my food unless I'm told to. I don't mind doing that actually, but it's been about 7 years since I've done it. That summer day-camp probably had a bad cook.Nonetheless, what the church staff want you to do was to have you thank God that you're getting food, no matter its condition. They want you to be thankful you're not starving to death like some people in some third or fourth world country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Maeso Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Actualy lots of people had asked me that, and some of them after my answer said: "Oh! so there is salvation for you! come!" and then I normaly say: "Dude I'm atheist, I don't belive in god or those stuff, look I respect you guys belives and stuf so I at least expect the same from you" and then they normaly don't stop. look I'm atheist but I respect that each one has it is own belives or not so can everyone take this reply just as my experience and try to see it by my eyes not yours, that is the only thing I ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Frostpaw Posted January 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 I never pray for my food unless I'm told to. I don't mind doing that actually, but it's been about 7 years since I've done it. That summer day-camp probably had a bad cook.Nonetheless, what the church staff want you to do was to have you thank God that you're getting food, no matter its condition. They want you to be thankful you're not starving to death like some people in some third or fourth world country. Dude, the food wasn't even edible. The milk wasn't refridgerated, and like i said, the chicken was almost as rubbery as rubber. Oh, and they didn't have a cook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 When have Christians ever been known to ask intelligent questions? I was not shocked a bit by the first post, I really wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yang Xiao-Long Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Dude, the food wasn't even edible. The milk wasn't refridgerated, and like i said, the chicken was almost as rubbery as rubber. Oh, and they didn't have a cook. Fourth world country families make their kids go to the streets to have them pick up food scraps. I know sometimes some people can be insistent in getting others to join in their respective religion. They're just really insistent, that's who they are.Some people know me as a Christian, and honestly, I don't care if people are Atheist or another religion, but the one thing that gets on my nerves is people saying they're doing Satanism (early hatred of it ever since I was 5, forgive me). If a Christian respects your beliefs, please respect theirs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 If a Christian respects your beliefs I plugged that in my calculator and got out undefined. Maybe it's a sign...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Unless my calculations are off, the problem is that Christians are stupid. But that's just in general. There may be 1 rational one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitysqrd Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 It has been said "Those who don't believe in God don't believe in anything they believe in every thing."and thats all I have to say about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Some people assume trolling is a bad thing. They fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twig Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 You guys must live in a different world because I've never seen a Christian say such a stupid thing. But then again, I haven't really met that many Christians at my school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hyde Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Yay Agnosticism! *Clears throat* Religion is fail in general....Cause of all the world's wars, blah blah blah, hypocriticism blah blah blah, Thou shall not kill + Crusades = FAIL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 It's only logical that Satanism came before Christianity, as Christianity was formed as a belief not long after Christ's death.I'm dead serious, i've never heard more flawed logic than that. You could "prove" anything with that argument. It's only logical that the Nazi Party came before Christianity, as Christianity was formed as a belief not long after Christ's death. It's only logical that CNN came before Christianity, as Christianity was formed as a belief not long after Christ's death. It's only logical that "The God Delusion" came before Christianity, as Christianity was formed as a belief not long after Christ's death. It's only logical that JFK was assassinated before before Christianity, as Christianity was formed as a belief not long after Christ's death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Frostpaw Posted January 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Actualy lots of people had asked me that, and some of them after my answer said: "Oh! so there is salvation for you! come!" and then I normaly say: "Dude I'm atheist, I don't belive in god or those stuff, look I respect you guys belives and stuf so I at least expect the same from you" and then they normaly don't stop. look I'm atheist but I respect that each one has it is own belives or not so can everyone take this reply just as my experience and try to see it by my eyes not yours, that is the only thing I ask. I respect others' religious views, but if someone is always trying to force me into following them, I quit respecting theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG. Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Quite a bit of the bible and other religious texts are logic fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 I once considered that maybe there were a few atheists that respected my beliefs, but that was clearly a logic fail on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu. Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 I'm dead serious, i've never heard more flawed logic than that. You could "prove" anything with that argument. It's only logical that the Nazi Party came before Christianity, as Christianity was formed as a belief not long after Christ's death. It's only logical that CNN came before Christianity, as Christianity was formed as a belief not long after Christ's death. It's only logical that "The God Delusion" came before Christianity, as Christianity was formed as a belief not long after Christ's death. It's only logical that JFK was assassinated before before Christianity, as Christianity was formed as a belief not long after Christ's death. Well, considering there is historical proof that a man named 'Jesus Christ' was crucified on a cross, and that there are no written recordings of Christianity before Christ's death, you can assume it was formed as it was stated in the Bible: By Jesus' disciples, who also have a very probable chance of existing. Of course, it may not be true, or it may completely be true, depending what perspective you're looking from. However, denying Jesus or his disciples' existence entirely would be like denying the existence of The Nazi Party, or CNN, or JFK. I myself am an existentialist, but am rather intrigued by the whole concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG. Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 I once considered that maybe there were a few atheists that respected my beliefs, but that was clearly a logic fail on my part. I respect the belief of others, I am an atheist. Well, considering there is historical proof that a man named 'Jesus Christ' was crucified on a cross, and that there are no written recordings of Christianity before Christ's death, you can assume it was formed as it was stated in the Bible: By Jesus' disciples, who also have a very probable chance of existing. Of course, it may not be true, or it may completely be true, depending what perspective you're looking from. However, denying Jesus or his disciples' existence entirely would be like denying the existence of The Nazi Party, or CNN, or JFK. I myself am an existentialist, but am rather intrigued by the whole concept. I must object. There is historical proof that a man with a name SIMILAR to "Jesus Christ" existed, more like "Jessuah Cristus", seeing as Jessuah was a normal name at the time in the region. There is also proof that he went around Israel or wherever, spreading religion. But not a word about any disciples. Source please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Well, considering there is historical proof that a man named 'Jesus Christ' was crucified on a cross, and that there are no written recordings of Christianity before Christ's death, you can assume it was formed as it was stated in the Bible: By Jesus' disciples, who also have a very probable chance of existing. Of course, it may not be true, or it may completely be true, depending what perspective you're looking from. However, denying Jesus or his disciples' existence entirely would be like denying the existence of The Nazi Party, or CNN, or JFK. I myself am an existentialist, but am rather intrigued by the whole concept.And that proves Satanism existed... how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu. Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 I must object. There is historical proof that a man with a name SIMILAR to "Jesus Christ" existed, more like "Jessuah Cristus", seeing as Jessuah was a normal name at the time in the region. There is also proof that he went around Israel or wherever, spreading religion. But not a word about any disciples. Source please? Aha. You've stumped me.No, it was a word-and-mouth thing spread around my local church group (Which I dropped out of 'cause I'm too fatass to go to every Sunday). Guess you can't believe everything you hear. And that proves Satanism existed... how? No. It was supposed to prove that Christianity was formed around Christ's death, and Satanism came before, but as evidence-wise Christ is non-existant, it can be classed invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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