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[quote name='White Devil Daniela' timestamp='1296942132' post='4990731']
I meant that I thought it was more likely for Justin Beiber to show up. I honestly dont think that a girl who looks like a drunk whore on every single on of her videos is "good"
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Justin Bieber is only as bad as every other completely autotuned pop artist out there, if not a tad better than a few.
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[quote name='Fusion X. Denver' timestamp='1297093314' post='4995146']
Sorry to say, but the video on Youtube with the most views EVER is Baby by Justin Bieber.
He may have his haters, but saying his music is terrible all amounts to opinion, not fact.
As for Ke$ha, I actually like 4 of her songs -_-
I won't deny she's trashy and vulgar, but her music's catchy to me.
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His music is terrible and that is a fact.

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[quote name='Kizzi' timestamp='1297097601' post='4995257']
His music is terrible and that is a fact.
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Why would 1 of his songs be #1 Most Viewed on Youtube then?
People who hate him wouldn't look it up, as it's just a music video playing the music, they wouldn't torture themselves unless they were idiots.
So logically the majority of those views would be from fans who love the song.
And in all honesty, music can't be considered terrible if it's met success.
Justin Bieber is successful.
Therefore, one can only say his music is terrible in their opinion, not a fact.
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[quote name='Fusion X. Denver' timestamp='1297103601' post='4995406']
Why would 1 of his songs be #1 Most Viewed on Youtube then? [b]Because record companies put more money into his advertizement because they know they can get quick, east money out of exploiting him.[/b]
People who hate him wouldn't look it up, as it's just a music video playing the music, they wouldn't torture themselves unless they were idiots. [b]30% of the viewers are either trolls or angry hicks. He gets more popularity from his hate than his fans.[/b]
So logically the majority of those views would be from fans who love the song. [b]Incorrect.[/b]
And in all honesty, music can't be considered terrible if it's met success. [b]That's the most f***ing idiotic thing I've ever heard. Plenty of pop acts are majorly successful but have awful musicianship. At the same time, underground bands have fans in mere hundreds, but are great listens.[/b]
Justin Bieber is successful. [b]Correct.[/b]
Therefore, one can only say his music is terrible in their opinion, not a fact. [b]It was never a fact to begin with.[/b]
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Please, not another JB raeg thread.
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I said majority, not all >__>
As for your 4th point, I never said the inverse would be true. There are plenty of good songs that aren't popular, but if a song becomes widespread enough where almost everyone has heard it, that means it's met success and has people who like listening to it.
You can't become successful without supporters.
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Ke$ha is without a doubt worse than Bieber. Bieber is actually talented - he can play the guitar and the trumpet very well, it's just that the music industry doesn't want that. They want something generic, something mindless for the masses. Ke$ha is a terrible lyricist, I doubt she writes her music and her songs advocate discrimination, heavy drinking and drunken sex. She can't sing or play an instrument. 4chan has newfags, YCM has 99% of it's membership, the music industry has Ke$ha.
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[quote name='Nu.' timestamp='1297025191' post='4993537']
Justin Bieber is only as bad as every other completely autotuned pop artist out there, if not a tad better than a few.
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Well, he plays the drums. That's cool I guess. Some common ground makes me despise him a little less.
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Beiber > Kesha.

Justin actually has some talent. He can sing without heavy use of autotune, plays the drums, and can dance alright. I don't like him, but he actually has talent.

Kesha can't sing without autotune (Seriously, have you heard her sing live?). She can dance, but only like a stripper/whore. Plus she acts like a rip-off of GaGa. And her songs isn't even catchy, excluding maybe Tik Tok.

So, I'll take Justin over Kesha anyday.
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