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Lily Ratbox Control (Edited for the 20th time)


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[quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1299663938' post='5062176']
Do people really hate the deck so much, or can they just not think of what would work good in it?[/quote]

The second... I tried for a while, and couldn't come up with very much. Nishipashi seems not very good, but I'd keep Exiled Force. I think it was already named, but Limit Reverse sounds like a really good idea.

So, after scanning through the targets for your Rat, I didn't really find that much. Milling isn't that good for you, and so seems to be Card Trooper. Ancient Gear Engineer sounds like fun, but is dead in your hand and pretty situational. Dandy is Dandy, though I doubt that you'll really need those Tokens. D.D. Warrior for the big hitters? Yeah, maybe... Legendary Juijutsu Master could be pretty useful as well, but you already thought about that. The problem with him is that, when Rat Summons him, he's in Attack Position. Nimble Momonga for more Life Points... ah, forget it, terrible idea. X-Saber Pashuul as a defensive maneuver and Tuner... but Krebons is probably better. I can't really recommend anything, because the deck is so random (as already mentioned).

No Book of Moon? I mean, it's just 1, it's a good card...there's really not much to think about, unless you don't have it. Probably the easiest choice, kick the Nishipachi for it.

Other basic control cards like Thunder King Rai-Oh or Spirit Reaper? I really have no idea, sorry :(

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Well, the point of Nishipachi is because when summoned with rat his effect goes off and changes a monster's position, and then even they have to have another monster with more ATK than Nishipachi's defense since he would be changed to defense mode when Summoned. However, I have yet to pull off this combo as I either drew into Nishi or just didn't need it. Which is why I want to replace him.

Well, I will take it out for a Book of Moon. Only reason I didn't run it in the first place was because it conflicts with Lily, but since I'm not always going to have her out it doesn't matter. So, -1 Nishipachi, +1 Book of Moon.

The deck seems kind of random because it's a Ratbox obviously, and these are the cards I have. I can't think of a good EARTH tuner besides Commander for the deck, but I was also considering Pashuul, and that one dog Taro or whatever. Hammerhead is the best offensive EARTH remover, Lily is the basis of the deck, etc etc... I could go into detail if you really wanted to know the reason for all the cards.

Anyways, my considerations:
-Debris Dragon (When I get Black Rose Dragon)
-Reaper
-Gorz
-Gigantes
-Shiba-Warrior Taro
-Another Breaker
-Another Hammerhead
-Another Cydra (When I get it)
-Another Lily (When I get it)
-Limit Reverse (If I have more targets)

Don't have a Thunder King, sadly. Otherwise I could use it.
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3 of the cards they suggested aren't even in the deck anymore. I could add another Lily, but I would have to get one first. And I need to get a BRD before I can use Debris @.@

Other than that, I don't plan on using Rainbow Life.

EDIT: -1 Exiled Force, +1 Gorz. Not sure how this would go, because of my traps, but we'll see.
EDIT EDIT: Finally decided to remove Muka Muka. Instead am putting in Legendary Jujitsu Master. The deck is sort of like a stun now. Muka was just a dead draw too many times...
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Bionic Furries has given me 2 ideas:
1. When I get a second Green Gadget I might turn this into a Gadget-Style build. But not pure gadgets.
2. Maybe I could use a Vanity's Fiend instead of Caius? I only own 1.

Because I don't have Emergency Teleport, -1 E-Tele, +1 Spirit Reaper. Needed the monster count I figured.
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Does this deck just suck or something? If it does, please give me some card suggestions. I've only really gotten 3.

[spoiler="Also, these are all of the cards I can remember I've removed from the deck"]Enraged Muka Muka
Swords of Revealing Light
Card Destruction
Magical Mallet
Morphing Jar
Solemn Wishes
Non-Aggression Area
Karakuri Strategist
Exiled Force[/spoiler]
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I went into two duels with this deck, and they were both BS. I drew into nearly all monsters and only 1 trap at a time. I'm thinking I need to drop a monster (Krebons I'm thinking) and add in a trap. Trap suggestions?

EDIT:
-1 Krebons
-1 Golden Ladybug (Don't draw it much anyways)
+1 Spirit Reaper (Found one)
+1 Trap Dustshoot
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Been testing this out on DMG, and it's been doing alright. Reaper has definitely been making an effort in this deck that's not been wasted.

Pretty much it's gone:
Frog Gishiki: 2-0
Gigavise: 2-0
Some deck: 1-2
Some deck: 1-2
Some deck: 2-1

With some sparse encounters that weren't matches where I usually lost against Meta-based decks, but beat others.
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