Darth Revan of the Sith Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 So i have talked with a lot of people leading to this subject and here are the variety of opinion's i got... 1. "The freemason's are a bunch of people in a Fraternity nothin more nothin less" 2. "The Freemason's are these crazy freaks who think they are better than everyone else" 3. "The Freemason's are a secret society that controls the world" 4. "The Freemason's are a society bent on taking over the world like the nWo or something" 5. "The Freemason's are satanist's who worship the devil, and baphomet, and all the things that are against God and they should be destroyed" 6. "The Freemason's are a fraternity that guards an important secret" Being a person who has studied Freemasonry for years, what do you feel, and also do you agree with any of the following or do you have your own opinion on there true purpose here. Are they good or bad? DEBATE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinnamonStar Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 What's there to discuss, there's no movement that's "good" or "bad".=/ If you want to debate about what kind of description fits best to them, I'd say the first one, possibly the 6th, if they're guarding something that's important to them. The whole Satanists taking over the world is the usual thing some people drop about less-knwon movements/communities. There's someone in our faculty who specializes in history of the Freemasons but I haven't been to a course of him yet. And I've just studied Hermeticism, Gnosticism and various orders so far but not the Freemasons. So for now I'll go for the first one. But interesting thing, there was one student in one of my classes once who said that his grandparent used to paint windows in churches or something like that and was a Freemason, but got kicked out of it for whatever reason. It's a secretive society, their number and names of members are pretty much unknown and their rituals as well so it'd be interesting to know what that guy drags up in a history of the Freemasons course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel. Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1298324778' post='5024355'] So i have talked with a lot of people leading to this subject and here are the variety of opinion's i got... 1. "The freemason's are a bunch of people in a Fraternity nothin more nothin less" 2. "The Freemason's are these crazy freaks who think they are better than everyone else" 3. "The Freemason's are a secret society that controls the world" 4. "The Freemason's are a society bent on taking over the world like the nWo or something" 5. "The Freemason's are satanist's who worship the devil, and baphomet, and all the things that are against God and they should be destroyed" 6. "The Freemason's are a fraternity that guards an important secret" Being a person who has studied Freemasonry for years, what do you feel, and also do you agree with any of the following or do you have your own opinion on there true purpose here. Are they good or bad? DEBATE! [/quote] [s]This is why religion is stupid.[/s] I always thought it was some stupid topic that conspiracy theorists like to tear apart. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 WoW um Freemasonry is NOT a religion I dont know eher you got that Idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel. Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 [quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1298331615' post='5024696'] WoW um Freemasonry is NOT a religion I dont know eher you got that Idea... [/quote] Depends on how you view it...a secret society...? Or non-christian occult religion that worships satan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 I dun know wat dat is. Enlightenment pl0x? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinnamonStar Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Ok the impression I got is that it's mostly a fraternal society/community with its own rules and structure and doesn't view itself as a religious movement. However religion does play a role within their societies because rituals are made in honor of a higher being (that everyone can interpret in his way though, can be a Theist, Deist or whatever kind of view). And I THINK they read and study religious texts and base many of their rituals on ancient religions. It's true that there's no clear-cut religious canon that members have to accept but I'm pretty sure that the Fiat Lux branch considers itself as a religious community and is a masonic society. Well at least in my branch, it's part of the study spectrum in our institute since there's a teacher who specializes in it and holds lectures. That's also how it came over when the guy in my course told us about his grandfather. As far as I know, there's a lot of discourse in regards to the way traditional Islam and the big Catholic and Evangelical churches stand towards them. It reminds me a bit of the Unitarian Universalist communities, except with an own order and rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 The freemasons believe in a higher being known as the "Architect Of The Universe" Its a form of Deism... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Freemasons are a very old secret society, once much larger, with roots in Christianity and old stonemasons guilds. Because it was large and secret, people assumed it was a Satan-worshipping cult bent on world domination and guarding The Lost Word and probably alien spacecraft and ancient Mayan technology or something, too. I'm placing their threat-level somewhere below that of the Catholic Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 [quote name='Dr. Cakey' timestamp='1300140550' post='5074199'] The Freemasons are a very old secret society, [/quote] No they are a Fraternal organization.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 [quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1300140800' post='5074208'] No they are a Fraternal organization.... [/quote] We're operating on different definitions of "secret society". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 [quote name='Dr. Cakey' timestamp='1300141471' post='5074246'] We're operating on different definitions of "secret society". [/quote] aah understood... I apologize... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Starrk Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 The freemasons were not the illuminati. I don't understand why people thought that. The freemasons were more a fraternity for revolutionists and racists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 [quote name='Cōyōté Stárrk' timestamp='1300762666' post='5088787'] racists. [/quote] No they are not they allow people of all races... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Starrk Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 [quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1300819187' post='5089680'] No they are not they allow people of all races... [/quote] Not when America was established. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Cōyōté Stárrk' timestamp='1300834329' post='5090199'] Not when America was established. [/quote] Well when America was established slavery was still intact so if the Freemasons allowed Black People in it would cause a serious uproar... Its not that they are racist they just could not afford a problem of that scale at the time... And do you really have to use the "Race" argument because it has become way overused... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 People were more ignorant of how the universe worked back then. No reason to take them seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 [quote name='Lance Corporal Atlas' timestamp='1301712301' post='5106145'] People were more ignorant of how the universe worked back then. No reason to take them seriously. [/quote] I think we are more ignorant than when our country was founded... Relying on science for everything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 [quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1301718171' post='5106400'] I think we are more ignorant than when our country was founded... Relying on science for everything... [/quote] I legitimately LOL'd. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 [quote name='Lance Corporal Atlas' timestamp='1301719559' post='5106509'] I legitimately LOL'd. Good job. [/quote] No problem I'm here on Tuesdays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday too, I'd assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 Being a Free Mason myself, I know the society. It's not as secretive as it once was, back in the early 1860s and such. When I go to the lodge for meetings, there's clear as day the compass and ruler outside the building. No, it's not a religious cult, but they do require you to believe in a higher being (not one particular being, or anything like that, just so long as you view one). As long as you're of good morals, 18 or older, believe in a higher being, and they elect you, you can be a Mason. But it's not some idiotic cult or anything like that. We give to charities, and are over all good people. Thing's have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 [quote name='Revenant Black' timestamp='1302035911' post='5116777'] Being a Free Mason myself, I know the society. It's not as secretive as it once was, back in the early 1860s and such. When I go to the lodge for meetings, there's clear as day the compass and ruler outside the building. No, it's not a religious cult, but they do require you to believe in a higher being (not one particular being, or anything like that, just so long as you view one). As long as you're of good morals, 18 or older, believe in a higher being, and they elect you, you can be a Mason. But it's not some idiotic cult or anything like that. We give to charities, and are over all good people. Thing's have changed. [/quote] YOUR A FREE MASON!? I am not worthy...*Bows* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 [quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1301718171' post='5106400'] I think we are more ignorant than when our country was founded... Relying on science for everything... [/quote] I think you're more ignorant than when our country was founded... rejecting that silly "reason" stuff that was so popular with our founding fathers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 [quote name='The Dark One' timestamp='1302223987' post='5121794'] I think you're more ignorant than when our country was founded... rejecting that silly "reason" stuff that was so popular with our founding fathers. [/quote] Our founding fathers believed in "Reason" and "Apotheosis" science to me is not reason... it is a belief... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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