CrabHelmet Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 Um, excuse me, but I've watched enough Fox News to know that the Founding Fathers got their knowledge from Jesus and the only reason we don't today is that scientists are all godless commies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Starrk Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 [quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1302228151' post='5121978'] Our founding fathers believed in "Reason" and "Apotheosis" science to me is not reason... it is a belief... [/quote] Same with religion. Science has given nothing but truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 10, 2011 Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 [quote name='• Starrk •' timestamp='1302304434' post='5123574'] Same with religion. Science has given nothing but truth. [/quote] That depends on how we define science, exactly. There have been countless bad theories throughout the span of human history. The difference between science and religion is not that science is always right, but that science is testable and adaptable: When something is broke, we fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of All Spades Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Although I'm Christian, I must applaud Masons for taking a step in the right direction. In this world where people are keel-hauling each other over religion, Freemasons accept anyone into their creed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanPark24 Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 My great aunt was in the female version of the Masons... And apparently--due to that--I can become one easily.... o.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 I actually made a post about the Illuminati/Free Mason Agenda as well XD, you must have beat me to it OT: I'm really curious with this, if you've seen "Farhkan"'s videos on youtube he shows some crazy evidence supporting the "evil" group theory and the supposed NWO, things that predict disasters before they happened, although they cfould be brushed off as mere coincidence, I like to think there's more to it than "coincidence" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 [quote name='JordanPark24' timestamp='1313642844' post='5452159'] My great aunt was in the female version of the Masons... And apparently--due to that--I can become one easily.... o.o [/quote] That "Female version" is called the Eastern Star and you dont need a lineage to become one... They are an open fraternity who will accept almost anyone... And they are not part of some stupid Anti-Mason conspiracy theory, just because certain government officials are part of Freemasonry does NOT mean they are plotting the NWO... The Freemasons and the illuminati are two different things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanPark24 Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 [quote name='Anthony Hatsune' timestamp='1313670259' post='5452570'] That "Female version" is called the Eastern Star and you dont need a lineage to become one... They are an open fraternity who will accept almost anyone... And they are not part of some stupid Anti-Mason conspiracy theory, just because certain government officials are part of Freemasonry does NOT mean they are plotting the NWO... The Freemasons and the illuminati are two different things... [/quote] okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-dreezyAFG Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 i believe there is a difference between freemasonry and the illuminati... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 [quote name='+Whambulance' timestamp='1307224036' post='5254909'] Although I'm Christian, I must applaud Masons for taking a step in the right direction. In this world where people are keel-hauling each other over religion, Freemasons accept anyone into their creed. [/quote] The Freemasons were originally a Christian organization, actually. Of course, that was back in the day when being in Europe and not being Christian was punishable by death. This adorable Anthony Hatsune character we've got is...adorable. He's kind of like a puppy rebel, or something. You just want to rub his little puppy belly, even though he believes lightbulbs are powered by faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 [quote name='I-dreezyAFG' timestamp='1313691354' post='5453092'] i believe there is a difference between freemasonry and the illuminati... [/quote] Oh, I've only just started looking into the whole thing and thought that thee Illuminati consisted of Free Masons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. Sankara Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 [quote name='Holy Descent' timestamp='1313723006' post='5454080'] Oh, I've only just started looking into the whole thing and thought that thee Illuminati consisted of Free Masons? [/quote] We despise the Illuminati because of their morales. They are a corrupt consensus of terrorist-like individuals who want to overthrow not just America, but the world. We do not associate with the Illuminati, nor will we ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 [quote name='Holy Descent' timestamp='1313723006' post='5454080'] Oh, I've only just started looking into the whole thing and thought that thee Illuminati consisted of Free Masons? [/quote] Well, since I have nothing better to do, I cracked open my personal trusted source on the esoteric. Here's what it has to say on the subject of the Illuminati. [quote]The name of several different secret societies founded between the fourteenth and eighteenth centuries, including the Allumbrados of Spain, the Illumines of Avignon, and the Bavarian Illuminati, all of which have been confused with one another by conspiracy theorists. The word means "those who have been enlightened".[/quote] And summaries of the entries on the three listed organizations: The Illumines of Avignon were founded in 1770 in France, by an ex-monk named Antoine-Joseph Pernety. It was a Masonic rite, based on Christian mysticism of Emanuel Swedenborg (No idea who he is, but with a name like Emanuel you can't be [i]that[/i] bad). It changed its name to the Academy of True Masons in 1778, probably to avoid being conflated with the Bavarian Illuminati (it didn't work, apparently), and disappeared during the French Revolution. The Bavarian Illuminati were founded in 1776 in - unsurprisingly - Bavaria, by a University of Ingolstadt professor named Adam Weishaupt. His basic goal was to spread liberal Enlightenment ideas through Bavaria, and later the rest of Europe. The basic idea seemed to have been that humans were inherently good, but tradition stood in the way of universal enlightenment. The Bavarian Illuminati were based structurally on Freemasonry, as Weishaupt had been a Mason. They spread through central Europe, but their expanding size let the Bavarian government learn some of the Illuminati's codes and ciphers, and of their existence. Two edicts banned secret societies and the Illuminati in particular, causing Weishaupt to flee the country. A few years later, a raid by the government located all of the Illuminati's correspondences, essentially ending its life. Some ex-Illuminati did create their own politic organizations. Addendum: The Bavarian Illuminati became conflated with a conspiracy for global domination when the French Revolution broke out only a few years after the Illuminati's correspondences were revealed to the public, helped along by a number of books by a priest named Augustin de Barruel. This all began because conservative minds of the time could not accept that ordinary people would actually want to overthrow the French monarchy themselves. Basically from then on, the Illuminati became the official go-to organization for anti-government/anti-Christian plots. The Allumbrados were a group of Catholic heretics in the 1500s. Unfortunately, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. Need I say more? Their heresy was, apparently, that a living human can reach God through quieting their mind and emptying themself of desire. Allumbrados means "enlightened ones", hence the supposed connection to the Illuminati. And now you know. Unless this information is wrong. In which case you don't actually know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of All Spades Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 [quote name='機皇神龍アステリスク' timestamp='1313720004' post='5453993'] You just want to rub his little puppy belly, even though he believes lightbulbs are powered by faith. [/quote] Yes I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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