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[quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1298823582' post='5038368']
Our brains were used at a higher percent hundreds of years ago then they are used now...
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This is actually untrue. People are more intelligent now than ever, for the most part. That's why IQ tests are updated to increase difficulty; to keep the average at 100 IQ.

People are just less hard working and competent, these days.
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[quote name='Mikhail Tal' timestamp='1298673776' post='5034218']
Humans are genetically programmed to eat meat.
Then there is the matter that humans are natural meat-eaters.
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This hasn't been proven yet, there's still a huge debate about whether humans are naturally supposed to eat meat and even animal products or not and both sides have their arguments.

I agree with the possibility to get dairy products from better treatment and that's also a reason why I'm not a vegan myself. BUT I still think that people who claim to be big animal lovers and who follow a vegan diet are less hypocritical than people who cuddle their cute dogs and cats while eating that "lowly" porc. Unless they go live in the jungle and follow that animal kind of lifestyle for real.

Ah so you mostly have beef (bad pun, I know :P ) with the attitude of many Vegans and I agree with it. Try commenting on those documentaries like Earthlings and see if they even let you finish talking.<3 But I still don't understand how deciding not to sponsor the cruelty towards animals where it's avoidable, protecting the environment, deciding not to swallow the time of the month of hens and overall eating healthier could be an eating disorder in disguise. I made a topic about dairy products in Debates btw but not many people posted in it.=/


Also, the previous posts brought out the biggest kind of hypocrisy I see a lot on the Internet, people posting with their laptops about the horrible modern world and its evil technology.

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[quote name='Opalmoon' timestamp='1298847362' post='5039512']
This hasn't been proven yet, there's still a huge debate about whether humans are naturally supposed to eat meat and even animal products or not and both sides have their arguments.
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We have the teeth of omnivores. We are indeed designed to eat meat, and there are no legitimate arguments against it.

But that doesn't inherently justify the action, to be fair.
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[quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1298843784' post='5039347']
Oh crud i forgot i have a different mindset than you... Oh well...
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What, you mean the mindset of "accepting anything and everything you hear without doing the slightest bit of critical thinking"?

If you want to make a claim, you should have an actual reason besides "It sounded good when I read it".
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[quote name='Opalmoon' timestamp='1298847362' post='5039512']
This hasn't been proven yet, there's still a huge debate about whether humans are naturally supposed to eat meat and even animal products or not and both sides have their arguments.
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It has been proven, humans have eaten meat since the day they evolved. We have incisors and canines that are designed for the purpose of tearing flesh. There is no "huge debate" - the scientific community all acknowledge that humans are natural omnivores.
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[quote name='Mikhail Tal' timestamp='1298967405' post='5043142']
It has been proven, humans have eaten meat since the day they evolved. We have incisors and canines that are designed for the purpose of tearing flesh. There is no "huge debate" - the scientific community all acknowledge that humans are natural omnivores.
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(I don't think all their arguments are right but I honestly believe that not every scientist would agree with you.)
Humans have a (now excuse my wacky English) "sleek stomach" (is it called like that?) and have a harder time digesting meat than it works with plant products. Meat contains many of the nutritients that the human body needs, but it isn't healthy in the other departments. High cholesterol is primarily based on animal products, especially animals fats, and it's just impossible to become overweight with vegetables. It's not surprising that when people want to lose weight and live healthier, one of the first things besides sports is that they should eat a lot of fruits and vegetables. Meat, not so much. If anything, it increases the risk of getting various illnesses, cancer, osteoporose, heart deficiencies, etc. The idea that all humans are natural omnivores doesn't apply to everyone since quite a number of people are lactose intolerant or have an allergy towards other animal products (the argument I'd put against would be that soy allergies do exist too but that's another story).

Most arguments against eating meat are bound to ethical and environmental reasons though.

I think it's something inbetween. I believe we [i]can[/i] eat meat and animal products but don't have to and certainly not in the big amounts many people consume them these days. It's possible for many people to lead a purely plant-based diet, not for everyone which is what a lot of vegans just don't want to understand, but it's possible and perfectly healthy for a good number. And considering the state the world is in, it wouldn't be a bad idea if more people started cutting down on the animal products.=/

(On a sidenote, you know the whole scientific community?O_o)

Like I said, try commenting on those animal cruelty documentaries like Earthlings, Meet your Meat and that stuff and tell me if there isn't a huge debate. I tried dropping the fact once that we sadly don't live in a world where everyone eats stones, it's sad but that's how it works, and that a vegan diet doesn't work for everyone (for example not for old and sick people, even Gandhi decided to drink goat milk at some point), but don't think they'd let you finish...

Fyi I'm not a vegan myself either, but I did limit animal products over the last years and I like cooking vegan from time to time. And OT: I do believe that by loving your own pets and loving other animals just as much, you're being less of a hypocrit than by just loving one of them.
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[quote name='judedudemude' timestamp='1299022031' post='5044322']
its more like the animal have the right to remain tastey man
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Amen to that... Hypocrisy is good because I can do something while doing something that denies what I just did and still be happy... Truthfully as long as it benefits me I couldnt care less...
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you dont know they are tasty unless you eat em

(THAT HOW EVERONE FOUND OUT THAT CHICKEN AND PORK TASTE SO D4MN G00D)

[quote name='judedudemude' timestamp='1299022939' post='5044395']
you dont know they are tasty unless you eat em[/quote]

i guess that how canbails justifed eating people lol
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[quote name='Halubaris Maphotika' timestamp='1299022668' post='5044380']
Amen to that... Hypocrisy is good because I can do something while doing something that denies what I just did and still be happy... Truthfully as long as it benefits me I couldnt care less...
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You're kind of an awful person on various levels.
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