SkySword, New Archetype

[darkben]

[quote name='Kito' timestamp='1300820681' post='5089719']
sorry i did not read all the comments so i dont know if this was coverd. you have no lvl 1 monster i knowu have 1 monster that can lower there lvls by 1 but you sincro is lvl 9 and most of you monster are lvl 3 or 4 I dont play with sincros but im pritty shure the stars have to be exsact. you might want to add a lvl 1 some where. i also dont know if you can sincro face down cards i asume u can. also might want a few spells and traps that empty the graveyard of a few cards. or a equip that increases attack for every empty graveyard in play. or a spells that removes form play or send back to the deck 1 card per turn. ect. i like the consept tho just not fond of sincro cards.

rank A
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spells and traps are coming, its hard enough balancing the monsters xD
the whole point of tacheon being a level 9 is that it takes almost exact conditions to summon him.
ie: you have to have an empty graveyard somewhere in the game to use light barrier to altar another monster's level
you can't tune face-downs, but you can flip em up and tune em

don't forget that i have 2 level 2s and 2 level 3s, 4+3+2 =9
the idea is that tacheon is hard to summon tho, hes a bit OP tbh

thanks for the feedback ^^

[The Twizzler]

I like the cards... I'd just like to see some spells+traps.

[Cody Frost]

[quote name='darkben' timestamp='1300817614' post='5089581']
Oh, wow
that is possibly the most helpful comment that I have ever seen on a forum. ever. of all time.
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[quote name='darkben' timestamp='1300817614' post='5089581']
I guess I've got some work to do, really good ocg tidying, nice ideas
just a couple of things
I agree with what you said about mechanic, 8 cards does seem like a lot in hindsight (it was also pretty much the first I designed)
however, you don't seem to like the cards where I send cards form the deck to the graveyard.
i can see where you are coming from, and perhaps I'm overbalancing, but still xD
the idea that I was trying to hit on was that the skysword monsters gain abilities from having empty graveyards, but can activate others by filling the graveyard slightly, so gaining one ability but losing another.
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Now that is more understandable. Discard effects might work, but that means this deck would probably need to mill out cards as well. If you are making their effects mandatory, then you NEED cards in the Graveyard so I would suggest cards that send cards to the Graveyard, maybe some Lightsworn Monsters could fill that void that they need, or a Spell/Trap support card.

[quote name='darkben' timestamp='1300817614' post='5089581']
perhaps you think its hugely OP, I don't know, I just want to get the balance right.
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I did think that indeed. But most cards that are created are initially made OPed and then propped for fixes. However, I was also thinking about how most of these cards need no cards in the Graveyard to activate their “Bonus” effects. That is something that is quite tricky to do. In a sense you’ve made an archtype that contradicts almost all of the most powerful archtypes in the game. It contradicts Lightsworns, it contradicts Tele-DAD, it contradicts Blackwings (a little), etc.! And another note that I kinda got was that these cards NEED to be OPed a little. Your opponent it getting HUGE and I’m not overestimating this, HUGE!!! GINORMOUS forms of advantage because you’re basically recycling their cards for them like mini Pots of Avarice that return usually 2 cards (any) from the top of their Graveyard to their deck! That puts you in a disadvantage. If Lightsworns mill out their JDs, you could be doing them a favor by returning them to the Deck. A War Chariot would be epic for Glad Beasts, and most of the time they want their cards in the Deck to. This deck has to be OPed a little in order to survive because it’s basically giving your opponent a +2 every time. Recycle top deck Gorz? Anyone?

[quote name='darkben' timestamp='1300817614' post='5089581']
I do, however, like what you did with artillery, but I might keep the 'this card cannot be attacked if there is another Skysword monster on your side of the field in face up defense position, excluding skysword artillery'
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That sounds like a good idea. My ideas were just to fix up things here and there and help you format the effects better but in the end, these cards are your creations and you have the final say in their effects.

[quote name='darkben' timestamp='1300817614' post='5089581']
The other thing I wanted to query is what you did with skysword commander tacheon. while I see what you did with it, and you did simplify his effect quite a bit, but I've got it into my head that without some kind of removing from play cost at all i thought it would get seriously OP, especially as it comes back with another monster. For that I might still make you discard cards, or whatever I made you do, I don't have it in front of me at the moment.
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Actually I thought the card would’ve been much more balanced that way because a few things are present ATM: Not much removal + Hard as hell to get this guy out. Without any monsters removed from play you can’t get this guy’s Special Summon effect much and you are just setting him up for Bottomless every time you use his removal/Special Summon effect. The reason this guy is so hard getting out is because you don’t set up big Swarm plays with these monsters so Tacheon will rarely be seen in play in the first place. With those things said, don’t you think he deserves to be a little OPed? Kinda like, oh I don’t know…maybe Trishula?!

[quote name='darkben' timestamp='1300817614' post='5089581']
The final thing was that light barrier, the tuner used for tacheon, was also supposed to fill the role of defensive monster within the deck, much like defender, hoplomus, etc. Hell, even renge.
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I guess. I just thought that a defender that’s also a tuner that can adjust levels with an ATK of 1100 felt sort of…weird. Maybe it’s because I haven’t seen many monsters like that in the game.

[quote name='darkben' timestamp='1300817614' post='5089581']
It looks like I have a damnsight lot of editing to do, considering I like loads of what you have done here. thanks once again! ^^
oh, and if you catch the rvb reference at the start, you sir, are legendary
Made an absolute shed load of changes, what do you guys think now?
I think pretty much all OCG seems to be fixed too ^^
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Much better. I like Artillary’s protective effect. Reminds me of Crystal Beast Amber Mammoth with Crystal Release. The half damage effect made this card less punishing to your opponent but it’s still a big monster to get over. That or you can just pop it with DAD or Murmillo, or something else.

[quote name='darkben' timestamp='1300817614' post='5089581']
I'm still wary about tacheon being OP, your opponent can't touch him in his own turn, and you can remove him for free
ideas?
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I explained this card already. But I guess since you did make him untouchable…Maybe make it something like:
[i]When this card is Synchro Summoned, you can destroy one monster your opponent controls and return cards up to the destroyed monster's level from both players’ Graveyards to their Decks and shuffle them. For each player that has no cards in their Graveyard, this card gains 400 ATK and DEF. During your opponent's [b]Main Phase 2[/b], remove this card from play. Special Summon it during Standby Phase. When this card is Special Summoned by this effect, you may Special Summon 1 other SkySword monster that is removed from play. Monsters Special Summoned by this card’s effect (excluding this card) are removed from play during your next End Phase.[/i]

Although for some reason I’m thinking that his effect should allow him to remove cards from play from your graveyard…like a cost. Maybe like this:
[i]When this card is Synchro Summoned, you can destroy one monster your opponent controls and return cards up to the destroyed monster's level from both players’ Graveyards to their Decks and shuffle them. For each player that has no cards in their Graveyard, this card gains 400 ATK and DEF. During your opponent's [b]Main Phase 2, remove 2 cards from your Graveyard from play to[/b] remove this card from play. Special Summon it during Standby Phase. When this card is Special Summoned by this effect, you may Special Summon 1 other SkySword monster that is removed from play. Monsters Special Summoned by this card’s effect (excluding this card) are removed from play during your next End Phase.[/i]

Now he’s touchable, he is able to Special Summon removed from play SkySworns, and still removes 1 card from play. It’s a +1, -1 effect that can be cured with Burial of a Different Dimension or something like it.

[quote name='darkben' timestamp='1300817614' post='5089581']
new card up, SkySword Wingman.
This should help keep those graveyards empty while providing some nice atk points should you have a nice field of SkySword monsters
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[u][b]SkySword Wingman[/b][/u]
If there is another face-up SkySword monster on your side of the field, this card gains 400 ATK and DEF. Once per turn, you may pay 200 life points for every other “SkySword” monster face-up on your side of the field to [b]return cards equal to the number of face-up “SkySword” monsters other than “SkySword Wingman” from the top of both[/b] players' Graveyards to their Decks and shuffle them.
I know the effect is slightly longer, but it’s much clearer. I like this card because it’s the right balance of effects, except maybe the ATK and DEF. If his original ATK was something like 1800, or maybe event 1900, then it would be more balanced in that sense. Nice card anyway.

[darkben]

[quote name='The Twizzler' timestamp='1300830112' post='5090050']
I like the cards... I'd just like to see some spells+traps.
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they are on the way, I'm on synchros/boss monsters at the moment, then onto spells

stay tuned...

[quote name='Wolfy Eddy' timestamp='1300833343' post='5090152']





I did think that indeed. But most cards that are created are initially made OPed and then propped for fixes. However, I was also thinking about how most of these cards need no cards in the Graveyard to activate their “Bonus” effects. That is something that is quite tricky to do. In a sense you’ve made an archtype that contradicts almost all of the most powerful archtypes in the game. It contradicts Lightsworns, it contradicts Tele-DAD, it contradicts Blackwings (a little), etc.! And another note that I kinda got was that these cards NEED to be OPed a little. Your opponent it getting HUGE and I’m not overestimating this, HUGE!!! GINORMOUS forms of advantage because you’re basically recycling their cards for them like mini Pots of Avarice that return usually 2 cards (any) from the top of their Graveyard to their deck! That puts you in a disadvantage. If Lightsworns mill out their JDs, you could be doing them a favor by returning them to the Deck. A War Chariot would be epic for Glad Beasts, and most of the time they want their cards in the Deck to. This deck has to be OPed a little in order to survive because it’s basically giving your opponent a +2 every time. Recycle top deck Gorz? Anyone?


Actually I thought the card would’ve been much more balanced that way because a few things are present ATM: Not much removal + Hard as hell to get this guy out. Without any monsters removed from play you can’t get this guy’s Special Summon effect much and you are just setting him up for Bottomless every time you use his removal/Special Summon effect. The reason this guy is so hard getting out is because you don’t set up big Swarm plays with these monsters so Tacheon will rarely be seen in play in the first place. With those things said, don’t you think he deserves to be a little OPed? Kinda like, oh I don’t know…maybe Trishula?!



[u][b]SkySword Wingman[/b][/u]
If there is another face-up SkySword monster on your side of the field, this card gains 400 ATK and DEF. Once per turn, you may pay 200 life points for every other “SkySword” monster face-up on your side of the field to [b]return cards equal to the number of face-up “SkySword” monsters other than “SkySword Wingman” from the top of both[/b] players' Graveyards to their Decks and shuffle them.
I know the effect is slightly longer, but it’s much clearer. I like this card because it’s the right balance of effects, except maybe the ATK and DEF. If his original ATK was something like 1800, or maybe event 1900, then it would be more balanced in that sense. Nice card anyway.
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I think I'm gong to leave tacheon as he is, after some thought
as soon as you mentioned bottomless, i thought crap, and he is hard to get out anyway.
I shall keep him as he is, and I have something else planned for him as well...(hint: think /assault modes...)

I shall adjust wingman, although I shall make it UP TO the number of other skysword monsters, so if there isn't enough cards somewhere it doesn't break his effect

I also have another good miller coming up with a synchro.

cheers once again
Darkben

new synchro up.

another card up!
this means i'm almost done with monsters, 3 more to go (2 synchros and one monster which I won't reveal yet, your hint is: /assault mode)

Guys, I need name ideas for the last 2 level 7 synchros
any ideas?

Finished the Synchros ^^

onto spells and traps for now, and when those are done, you shall find out why the two lieutenants are tuners...

[darkben]

first spells up!

[Cody Frost]

[b][u]SkySword Guardian[/u][/b]
[b]1 “SkySword” Tuner monster + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters[/b]
When this card is Synchro Summoned, return up to 3 cards from the top of both players' Graveyards to their Decks and shuffle them. You may use each of these effects once each, and only one effect per turn. • Destroy 1 card on the field.
• Inflict 1000 damage to your opponent.
• Draw 2 cards and send 1 [b]card from your hand[/b] to the bottom of your Deck.
• Remove 1 [b]”[/b]SkySword[b]”[/b] monster in your Deck from play.

This card is quite good. I like the way it can only activate each effect once, and the way it can choose from 4 different options. Definitely a good support card for this archtype.

[b][u]SkySword Dragon[/u][/b]
[b]1 “SkySword” Tuner monster + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters[/b]
During each of your Standby Phases, put 1 Sky Counter on this card. This card gains 100 ATK and DEF for each Sky Counter on it. Once per turn, you may remove all Sky Counters from this card to activate one of these effects: • Special Summon 1[b]”[/b] SkySword[b]”[/b] monster from your hand or Deck whose level is less than or equal to the number of Sky Counters removed [b]by this effect[/b].
• Return cards up to the number of Sky Counters removed from both players' Graveyards to their Decks and shuffle them.

A power monster that provides more swarm support. Very nice addition here. I’d definitely run 1-2 of these guys in this type of deck.

[b][u]SkySword Lieutenant Terra[/u][/b]
[b]1 “SkySword” Tuner monster + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters[/b]
When this card is Synchro Summoned, add one Spell [b]C[/b]ard from your Deck to your hand. For each player that has no cards in their Graveyard, this card gains 200 ATK and DEF. Once per turn, if both players have no cards in their Graveyard, you may discard a random card from your opponent's hand. You may then add one card [/b]of the same type(Monster, Spell, or Trap) as the discarded card[/b] from your Deck to your hand. [b]Once per turn,[/b] you may return up to 2 cards from each player's Graveyard to the bottom of their Deck[b]s[/b] at the end of your opponent's Battle Phase.

This guy is perfectly balanced. Sends cards, adds cards, returns the cards it sends, but in a passive way. Great support card and probably the best Synchro Monster for this theme next to Dragon.

[b][u]SkySword Lieutenant Aero[/u][/b]
[b]1 “SkySword” Tuner monster + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters[/b]
When this card is Synchro Summoned, add one Spell [b]C[/b]ard from your Deck to your hand. For each player that has no cards in their Graveyard, this card gains 200 ATK and DEF. This card can attack your opponent directly. Halve any Battle Damage done to your opponent by this card. If this card inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent without attacking directly, return up to 3 cards from both players' Graveyards to their Decks and shuffle them.

Lol! A packed up version of Assassin eh? Not bad, but probably won’t run this card in a SkySword deck. Still, good card non the less.

[b][u]SkySword Reinforcements[/u][/b]
During each End Phase, if a SkySword monster was destroyed by battle, return 1 card from both players' Graveyards to the bottom of their Decks and Special Summon 1 level 4 or lower SkySword monster [b](from Graveyard? From hand? From Deck?)[/b]. You may destroy this card during your Main Phase to Special Summon 1 [b]”[/b]SkySword Wingman[b]”[/b] or 1 [b]”[/b]SkySword Artillery[b]”[/b] [b](From Graveyard? From hand? From Deck?[/b]. Monsters Summoned by this effect cannot attack on the turn that they are Summoned.

Unfortunately I can’t say much about this card until it’s fixed.

Great Synchro Monsters dude! They go great with the Archtype!
Now on a side note, here are a few OCG rules:
“Quote” monster names. Things such as “Crystal Beast” or “Lightsworn” or “Gladiator Beast” are quoted, so most of the effects here have to be “SkySword”. You don’t have to do this for counters, but if you are targeting a card such as Special Summoning a “SkySword” monster, “quote” the “SkySword” part.

Capitalization: Spell card is written as Spell Card. The same goes for Trap Cards.

Lastly: Synchros, how are you going to summon them? 1 Tuner monster + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters? 1 “SkySword” Tuner monster + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters? 1 Tuner monster + 1 or more “SkySword” non-Tuner monsters? Plz place their material costs.

Other than that, your OCG is improving greatly. I commend you on this

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On a side note, can I feature these cards in an Upcoming Fan Fic of mine? They are really unique and fit the description of one of my Characters. The fan fic itself won't be up until about early May because I'm still editing a few of the chapters and I want to have at least 27 Chapters premade before I publish them here. May I? Plz oh plz?

Also Could you check my Flame Barrier Monsters? The link is in my sig.

[darkben]

[quote name='Wolfy Eddy' timestamp='1300921310' post='5092349']
[b][u]SkySword Guardian[/u][/b]
[b]1 “SkySword” Tuner monster + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters[/b]
When this card is Synchro Summoned, return up to 3 cards from the top of both players' Graveyards to their Decks and shuffle them. You may use each of these effects once each, and only one effect per turn. • Destroy 1 card on the field.
• Inflict 1000 damage to your opponent.
• Draw 2 cards and send 1 [b]card from your hand[/b] to the bottom of your Deck.
• Remove 1 [b]”[/b]SkySword[b]”[/b] monster in your Deck from play.

This card is quite good. I like the way it can only activate each effect once, and the way it can choose from 4 different options. Definitely a good support card for this archtype.

[b][u]SkySword Dragon[/u][/b]
[b]1 “SkySword” Tuner monster + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters[/b]
During each of your Standby Phases, put 1 Sky Counter on this card. This card gains 100 ATK and DEF for each Sky Counter on it. Once per turn, you may remove all Sky Counters from this card to activate one of these effects: • Special Summon 1[b]”[/b] SkySword[b]”[/b] monster from your hand or Deck whose level is less than or equal to the number of Sky Counters removed [b]by this effect[/b].
• Return cards up to the number of Sky Counters removed from both players' Graveyards to their Decks and shuffle them.

A power monster that provides more swarm support. Very nice addition here. I’d definitely run 1-2 of these guys in this type of deck.

[b][u]SkySword Lieutenant Terra[/u][/b]
[b]1 “SkySword” Tuner monster + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters[/b]
When this card is Synchro Summoned, add one Spell [b]C[/b]ard from your Deck to your hand. For each player that has no cards in their Graveyard, this card gains 200 ATK and DEF. Once per turn, if both players have no cards in their Graveyard, you may discard a random card from your opponent's hand. You may then add one card [/b]of the same type(Monster, Spell, or Trap) as the discarded card[/b] from your Deck to your hand. [b]Once per turn,[/b] you may return up to 2 cards from each player's Graveyard to the bottom of their Deck[b]s[/b] at the end of your opponent's Battle Phase.

This guy is perfectly balanced. Sends cards, adds cards, returns the cards it sends, but in a passive way. Great support card and probably the best Synchro Monster for this theme next to Dragon.

[b][u]SkySword Lieutenant Aero[/u][/b]
[b]1 “SkySword” Tuner monster + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters[/b]
When this card is Synchro Summoned, add one Spell [b]C[/b]ard from your Deck to your hand. For each player that has no cards in their Graveyard, this card gains 200 ATK and DEF. This card can attack your opponent directly. Halve any Battle Damage done to your opponent by this card. If this card inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent without attacking directly, return up to 3 cards from both players' Graveyards to their Decks and shuffle them.

Lol! A packed up version of Assassin eh? Not bad, but probably won’t run this card in a SkySword deck. Still, good card non the less.

[b][u]SkySword Reinforcements[/u][/b]
During each End Phase, if a SkySword monster was destroyed by battle, return 1 card from both players' Graveyards to the bottom of their Decks and Special Summon 1 level 4 or lower SkySword monster [b](from Graveyard? From hand? From Deck?)[/b]. You may destroy this card during your Main Phase to Special Summon 1 [b]”[/b]SkySword Wingman[b]”[/b] or 1 [b]”[/b]SkySword Artillery[b]”[/b] [b](From Graveyard? From hand? From Deck?[/b]. Monsters Summoned by this effect cannot attack on the turn that they are Summoned.

Unfortunately I can’t say much about this card until it’s fixed.

Great Synchro Monsters dude! They go great with the Archtype!
Now on a side note, here are a few OCG rules:
“Quote” monster names. Things such as “Crystal Beast” or “Lightsworn” or “Gladiator Beast” are quoted, so most of the effects here have to be “SkySword”. You don’t have to do this for counters, but if you are targeting a card such as Special Summoning a “SkySword” monster, “quote” the “SkySword” part.

Capitalization: Spell card is written as Spell Card. The same goes for Trap Cards.

Lastly: Synchros, how are you going to summon them? 1 Tuner monster + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters? 1 “SkySword” Tuner monster + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters? 1 Tuner monster + 1 or more “SkySword” non-Tuner monsters? Plz place their material costs.

Other than that, your OCG is improving greatly. I commend you on this

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On a side note, can I feature these cards in an Upcoming Fan Fic of mine? They are really unique and fit the description of one of my Characters. The fan fic itself won't be up until about early May because I'm still editing a few of the chapters and I want to have at least 27 Chapters premade before I publish them here. May I? Plz oh plz?

Also Could you check my Flame Barrier Monsters? The link is in my sig.
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Thanks again xD
I made that spell card last thing last nightm so its probably not as good as it could have been
capitalisation usually catches me out, and i keep making typos with em xD
the other thing I do is ALWAYS forget the materials for synchros etc, i will fix them asap

sure, u can use them for a fanfic, theyre being used for a comic elsewhere so of course you can xD
i shall check out the flame barriers asap, im on a public comp atm though so cant just at the moment, the speed is crap.

I shall quote them anywhere it isn't quoted, I get wary about YCM's ability to actually use the quote marks and apostrophes but I shall still put them in

cheers
darkben

[darkben]

Cards fixed.

[Cody Frost]

[quote name='darkben' timestamp='1300958896' post='5093153']
Thanks again xD
I made that spell card last thing last nightm so its probably not as good as it could have been
capitalisation usually catches me out, and i keep making typos with em xD
the other thing I do is ALWAYS forget the materials for synchros etc, i will fix them asap

sure, u can use them for a fanfic, theyre being used for a comic elsewhere so of course you can xD
i shall check out the flame barriers asap, im on a public comp atm though so cant just at the moment, the speed is crap.

I shall quote them anywhere it isn't quoted, I get wary about YCM's ability to actually use the quote marks and apostrophes but I shall still put them in

cheers
darkben
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Huwway!
Props for fixes
BTW, I don't think I rated your set yet: 9.6/10 Very original. It's a tough archtype and has lots of potential.

[darkben]

[quote name='Wolfy Eddy' timestamp='1300978308' post='5093409']
Huwway!
Props for fixes
BTW, I don't think I rated your set yet: 9.6/10 Very original. It's a tough archtype and has lots of potential.
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9.6 ^^
im going to have a look at your archetype right now.

Field Spell up!

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AWESOME
how did u find real because i am suck finding pics

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THIS IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AWESOME
how did u find real because i am suck finding pics
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Thanks xD
I get pics from either deviantart or from card galleries that people here on YCM have

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BUMP

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[b][u]SS Dimension Base[/b][/u]
The first card to be sent to the Graveyard each turn is returned to the bottom of its owner's Deck instead. If the card returned was a monster, you may Special Summon a "SkySword" monster from your Deck or Extra Deck whose level is less than that of the returned card.

I like the concept of this card but the fact that you can Special Summon monsters from your Extra Deck makes this card kinda OPed.
Why not:
[i]The first card to be sent to the Graveyard each turn is returned to the bottom of its owner's Deck instead. If the card returned was a monster, you may Special Summon a "SkySword" monster from your Deck or [b]Graveyard[/b] whose level is less than that of the returned card.[/i]

That makes this card a little better, and can thin out your Graveyard nicely or set up for Quick Synchros so you'll still have cards in your Graveyard.

[darkben]

[quote name='Cody Frost' timestamp='1301170283' post='5098322']
[b][u]SS Dimension Base[/b][/u]
The first card to be sent to the Graveyard each turn is returned to the bottom of its owner's Deck instead. If the card returned was a monster, you may Special Summon a "SkySword" monster from your Deck or Extra Deck whose level is less than that of the returned card.

I like the concept of this card but the fact that you can Special Summon monsters from your Extra Deck makes this card kinda OPed.
Why not:
[i]The first card to be sent to the Graveyard each turn is returned to the bottom of its owner's Deck instead. If the card returned was a monster, you may Special Summon a "SkySword" monster from your Deck or [b]Graveyard[/b] whose level is less than that of the returned card.[/i]

That makes this card a little better, and can thin out your Graveyard nicely or set up for Quick Synchros so you'll still have cards in your Graveyard.
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I did contemplate that, but it does say less than, so I won't be getting anything bar a level 7 out anyway.
(how many level 9s have you destroyed in the last 3 months?)
I avoided the graveyard cos I hoped that other cards would keep that empty already, I was looking for other effects instead of graveyard thinning

cheers anyway ^^

[Cody Frost]

[quote name='darkben' timestamp='1301173235' post='5098488']
I did contemplate that, but it does say less than, so I won't be getting anything bar a level 7 out anyway.
(how many level 9s have you destroyed in the last 3 months?)
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Besides the Ally of Justice Beatstick Monsters, Trishula, Trident Dragon, GX Gods (Hamon, Uria and Raviel), 5 Headed Dragon, Blue Eyes Shining and Red Eyes Darkness, AND the Machina Monster...I'd say alot since I see them almost everyday...and that doesn't include the Cyber End Dragon.

[quote name='darkben' timestamp='1301173235' post='5098488']
I avoided the graveyard cos I hoped that other cards would keep that empty already, I was looking for other effects instead of graveyard thinning

cheers anyway ^^
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Well, if you splash this deck with normal Spells and Traps, you set yourself up for a good recycle deck that can't draw out which makes the field Spell a good addition to the Deck. Pot of Avarice or Duality FTW with this card

[darkben]

[quote name='Cody Frost' timestamp='1301177246' post='5098637']
Besides the Ally of Justice Beatstick Monsters, Trishula, Trident Dragon, GX Gods (Hamon, Uria and Raviel), 5 Headed Dragon, Blue Eyes Shining and Red Eyes Darkness, AND the Machina Monster...I'd say alot since I see them almost everyday...and that doesn't include the Cyber End Dragon.



Well, if you splash this deck with normal Spells and Traps, you set yourself up for a good recycle deck that can't draw out which makes the field Spell a good addition to the Deck. Pot of Avarice or Duality FTW with this card
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WHO actually uses the gx gods, 5 headed dragon, blue eyes shining, red eyes darkness, or machina force?
no-one ever uses those any more, machine force is played in machina decks for use with machina fortress, not to actually summon

[Cody Frost]

[quote name='darkben' timestamp='1301501561' post='5100161']
WHO actually uses the gx gods, 5 headed dragon, blue eyes shining, red eyes darkness, or machina force?
no-one ever uses those any more, machine force is played in machina decks for use with machina fortress, not to actually summon
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GX Gods:
Hamon in Crystal Beasts
Uria in Trap Removal Set
Raviel in pure fiends.
Blue Eyes Shining in Future Visions format. Same thing with Red Eyes Darkness + Red Eyes Wyvern Set up

I realized that those decks are weak, but still...they do summon them.

5 Headed Dragon is the result of Future Fusion as fodder for A Red Eyes Dragunity Deck. Pitch Red Eyes metal+Red Eyes Wyvern + 3 Dragunities sets up for a lot of good combos. And if you can't take out Future Fusion, you see this extra monster to deal with. This is much better form of getting a beater that Blue Eyes Shining, and still annoys your opponent if they can't take it out.

Machina Fortress = Monster Reborn to get over 4k beaters.

But that's besides the point.

[darkben]

bump
new cards will come along soon, bit busy atm

[Cody Frost]

[quote name='darkben' timestamp='1301596208' post='5102674']
bump
new cards will come along soon, bit busy atm
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They better get here soon sir or I will file a law suit and sue your ass for 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 Dollars!!