RAEGING D0GKING Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 3|Ha02|Mist Valley Apex Avian 3|Ha01|Mist Valley Thunderbird 2|Ha01|Mist Valley Soldier 2|Ha02|Mist Valley Falcon 2|Ha04|Genex Ally Birdman 3|Excv|Reborn Tengu 3|Drev|Pot of Duality 3|Stor|Divine Wind of Mist Valley 3|Pgd|Terraforming 1|Sd4|Mystical Space Typhoon 1|Potd|Mausoleum of the Emperor 1|Mrl|Giant Trunade 1|Sdp|Dark Hole 1|Ske|Monster Reborn 1|Sd1|Swords of Revealing Light 1|Een|Pot of Avarice 3|Wc08|Dimensional Prison 2|Drev|Solemn Warning 2|Rgbt|Trap Stun 1|Sd2|Torrential Tribute 1|Mrd|Mirror Force 1|Mrd|Solemn Judgment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 So basically you are attempting to use Mausoleum of the Emperor to get out Apex Avian, swarm shiz up by returning Thunderbird to get out Falcon and then keep it up to nearly perform an OTK to your hand and using Divine Wind of Mist Valley Trying to bring up the Archtype to Teir 1? I very much like the Idea... maybe add in the Reborn Tengu (?) It would give you a better shot at an OTK... not sure what you would take out though... I do really like this idea however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name='Boss Z' timestamp='1302110375' post='5118520'] So basically you are attempting to use Mausoleum of the Emperor to get out Apex Avian, swarm shiz up by returning Thunderbird to get out Falcon and then keep it up to nearly perform an OTK to your hand and using Divine Wind of Mist Valley Trying to bring up the Archtype to Teir 1? I very much like the Idea... maybe add in the Reborn Tengu (?) It would give you a better shot at an OTK... not sure what you would take out though... I do really like this idea however [/quote] While Soldier gives me the option to go into Scrap Dragon to run over the Reapers. Anyway Genex Ally Birdman is next on my list to be added to the deck so idk if I could fit him in and Tengu. Might do this +1 Soldier (gives me the option to lv 7 with thunderbird and lv 8 with tengu or falcon. +3 Tengu +2 Birdman (only 2 for now, would of been better if it was wind) -1 Mausoleum (only gonna use once anyway and terraforming searches it) -2 Compul -2 Gold Sarco (by the time I activate it the opponent has his warnings and judgment set for my next plays) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Birdman is a must here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name='.Kowalski' timestamp='1302119870' post='5118737'] Birdman is a must here [/quote] I know, YVD didn't have him so I didnt add him yet but what the heck, ill just proxy him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Its looking rather Pro now, it'll definetly have some potential, now all the Mist Valley needs is 1 or 2 more Support cards to pwn If only Reborn Tengu was in "Over the Nexus" I'd love using this... would this make a differnce: -1 Avian +1 PoA Because you will get lots of monsters on the field, but as soon as someone activates a mirror force or a TT, or u begin Synchros you'll b down lots of monsters... PoA also allows late game abuse of Tengu and the Mist Valley Field Spell in general... its just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name='Boss Z' timestamp='1302121195' post='5118768'] Its looking rather Pro now, it'll definetly have some potential, now all the Mist Valley needs is 1 or 2 more Support cards to pwn If only Reborn Tengu was in "Over the Nexus" I'd love using this... would this make a differnce: -1 Avian +1 PoA Because you will get lots of monsters on the field, but as soon as someone activates a mirror force or a TT, or u begin Synchros you'll b down lots of monsters... PoA also allows late game abuse of Tengu and the Mist Valley Field Spell in general... its just a thought [/quote] I need to draw into Avian as fast as possible so I could win, and my Avian will be Solemn Warned and that stuff a lot of the times so I need others aswell. But Avarice could be a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Okay, I get what you mean with 3 Avians now, that makes more sence... but it isn't COMPLETELY needed for the win, it just sets up VERY nicely a win... While Birdman is good for synchro summoning, i find Tengu would be more useful for an OTK then birdman because Tengu can be used during the Battle Phase with Falcon, though both are rather essential... and they can be used together for great Lulz (Potential) Extra Deck: 2x Scrap Dragon (try to target Tengu's) 1x Stardust Dragon 1x Red Dragon Archfiend (not incredibly high ATK of your field, but this gets through the deffencive walls, and its not like anything you have WON'T be attacking 2x Black Rose Dragon 2x Mist Valley Thunder Lord (its a Mist Valley, its good for this, but I wish you could synch with Tengu instead of using a Mist Valley) 1x Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier (Thunderbird + Birdman, and Tengu's in Hand = Lulz) 1x Trishula 1x Mist Wurm 2x Mainspring Armored Zenmaster 1x Vylon Disigma 1x Gurensaurus That is just my suggestion as with current cards the the easiest to hit are 7 and 8 stars, the highest are 9 stars, and the lowest you can go is 6 stars... and there is no Goyo since he is banned *sad face* There also is a lack of Mist Valley Synchros besides Thunder Lord, but Thunder Lord works well for this deck on paper... Imagine a Mist Valley Structure Deck (goose bumps) You have set my desires back to this old favorite of mine, and I am SO going to have to buy all the cards for this deck Just wondering, what do u suggest over the Duality? Cause I KNOW I can't afford those and Warning's will also be a stretch For players Like myself I think: +2 Compul +2 Gold Sarco +1 Avarice Will work I want to stick to your original idea of Compul because with the increase in monsters you have many more targets to go through your deck with and it can drastically improve your chance of getting an OTK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name='Boss Z' timestamp='1302123475' post='5118816'] Okay, I get what you mean with 3 Avians now, that makes more sence... but it isn't COMPLETELY needed for the win, it just sets up VERY nicely a win... While Birdman is good for synchro summoning, i find Tengu would be more useful for an OTK then birdman because Tengu can be used during the Battle Phase with Falcon, though both are rather essential... and they can be used together for great Lulz (Potential) Extra Deck: 2x Scrap Dragon (try to target Tengu's) 1x Stardust Dragon 1x Red Dragon Archfiend (not incredibly high ATK of your field, but this gets through the deffencive walls, and its not like anything you have WON'T be attacking 2x Black Rose Dragon 2x Mist Valley Thunder Lord (its a Mist Valley, its good for this, but I wish you could synch with Tengu instead of using a Mist Valley) 1x Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier (Thunderbird + Birdman, and Tengu's in Hand = Lulz) 1x Trishula 1x Mist Wurm 2x Mainspring Armored Zenmaster 1x Vylon Disigma 1x Gurensaurus That is just my suggestion as with current cards the the easiest to hit are 7 and 8 stars, the highest are 9 stars, and the lowest you can go is 6 stars... and there is no Goyo since he is banned *sad face* There also is a lack of Mist Valley Synchros besides Thunder Lord, but Thunder Lord works well for this deck on paper... Imagine a Mist Valley Structure Deck (goose bumps) You have set my desires back to this old favorite of mine, and I am SO going to have to buy all the cards for this deck Just wondering, what do u suggest over the Duality? Cause I KNOW I can't afford those and Warning's will also be a stretch For players Like myself I think: +2 Compul +2 Gold Sarco +1 Avarice Will work I want to stick to your original idea of Compul because with the increase in monsters you have many more targets to go through your deck with and it can drastically improve your chance of getting an OTK [/quote] Changed the deck around my 2 cards, Falcon at 2 looks better. Anyway extra decks looks like 1 armory 1 catastor 1 brionac 1 gaia 2 black rose 1 fairy 1 scrap archfiend 2 stardust 2 scrap 1 colossal 1 rda 1 trishula or something like that i dont know much about exceeds so im not adding them anyway instead of dualitys just play 2 compul if your using my version since im version has 41 cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name='Odin el Padre de los Aesir' timestamp='1302123954' post='5118829'] Changed the deck around my 2 cards, Falcon at 2 looks better. Anyway extra decks looks like 1 armory 1 catastor 1 brionac 1 gaia 2 black rose 1 fairy 1 scrap archfiend 2 stardust 2 scrap 1 colossal 1 rda 1 trishula or something like that i dont know much about exceeds so im not adding them anyway instead of dualitys just play 2 compul if your using my version since im version has 41 cards. [/quote] How are you going to get out Arm or Catastor?? The exceeds work better for this I'll take a look at re-doing my extra deck idea though If you just Dropped a Falcon I would Suggest undo-ing that, but that is just my personal insight, because I see Falcon as being a main part to the OTK of the Deck Avian attacks, atk with thunderbird, out falcon, attack, return thunderbird, out falcon, atk with thunderbird, attack, return thunderbird, out falcon, attack with thunder bird, atk with falcon, return a falcon for tengu, atk with tengu Game!! But you don't truely need Avian for Game winning, have a Compul set the turn before, next turn, Dark Hole, NS Thunderbird, play mist valley, compul TBird it, get out falcon... then trunade, replay mist valley and u've just won... I say if Mist OTK ever becomes a populat deck then we share the credit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Double post, I know... sorry But I am going to make 1 last round of suggestions, because Mist Valley Apex Avian isn't needed to create an OTK stradegy, and infact it somewhat hinders the whole deck by taking up space... -2 Avian -1 MotE -1 Swords -2 Trap Stun +1 Mist Valley Falcon +2 Seven Tools of the Bandit (because of the following card which you don't want to cancel out) +2 Compulsory Evacuation Device Thats how I think it should be run... I mean that way you can go a lot more offencively and you do not require Apex for the Chain, I am leaving 1 copy in because Its a beast at negating things, I have to admit that... but you can just swarm the field and then sacrifice for it if you really want it out Plus Compul is a huge engine of this deck, it GIVES you a full field... I mean against a cleared field you only need 3 cards to perform an OTK, Thunderbird/Tengu, Compul, and Mist Valley... this being said the OTK is hard to pull of with high attack monsters as the strongest thing you can pull from the deck is a 2000 Falcon, but Avian is your only high attack and it requires a little too long to get out in my opinion, even with the MotE, there are a few combos that let you Synchro Summon high levels though, and that is all you need... Plus Compul can get rid of big monsters you otherwise couldn't kill You could even drop Avien down to 0 and add in 1 more Birdman, because with Thunderbird or Tengu you can bring out just about anything in your Extra Deck if you have Birdman in hand and Mist Valley on the Field... As for the Extra Deck, I'll go half way with ya... and create this: 1x Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier 1x Gaia, Force of the Earth (Beat stick for 6 stars (?)) 2x Black Rose Dragon 1x Ancient Fairy Dragon 1x Scrap Archfiend (I am Guessing you want a Beatstick for 7 stars (?)) 1x Mist Valley Thunder Lord (I am posting a reason below) 2x Stardust Dragon 2x Scrap Dragon 1x Red Dragon Archfiend 1x Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier 1x Mist Wurm (Clear the Field since you don't have many other ways to) 1x Mainspring Armored Zenmaster 1x Vylon Disigma I'll Fight you on the two Exceeds, you get a lot of 4Stars on the field with this deck and those two have some bad @$$ abilities for Rank4's Zenmaster is like 2 Book of Moons Disigma is like a more powerful, more specific Catastor Reason for Thunder Lord: You don't always want to rely on the battle phase to get the OTK roling and if you don't run this then you'll have to... ie. Your opponent has Scrap Dragon out... and for the sake of this that is his only card... you have in your hand TBird and Birdman, and Mist Valley on the field, NS TBird, SS Birdman, SS TBird, SS a Falcon Synchro TLord, Bounce TBird, SS TBird, SS Falcon... and proceed to kill your opponent... if you couldn't do that... then you'd have been dead If Mist Valley ever get a draw card then -1 Avien -2 Soldier +3 of the Draw Card Other wise I like it as is Lots of things, I know... just want to give my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted April 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Your otk didnt make any sense at all First of all divine wind only works once and when you ss thunderbird it cant attack. I summon Catastor or Armory arm using monster reborn. Armory is probably not need but Catastor is. Also I didnt make the Mist Valley otk deck, I actually found someone using it and explaing the lockdown. Next your telling me to take out the best card in my deck. I could put it at 2 but I just wouldnt. Mote gets out my avian and I prefer stun instead of tools since It shuts down all of your opponents traps. The deck isnt about synchros its about locking down with avian. Synchros are only there so I could Catastor for dark/Brionac against other stuff/Fairy against gk or drags/black rose on big fields/stardust for more protection/scrap dragon against reaper and stuff/trish to otk I could add 1 Thunder bird for 1 armory arm. Oh and you really dont need more than 2 Falcon, Falcon is there so I could return my swords, mote or divine wind or to use on thunder bird to ss with divine wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 D*m*... I never read cards... okay but you don't need Thunderbird to inflict the 8000 damage And I guess your idea works then, I'm sorry, lol, if only i actually read all of Thunderbird I see Falcon as having potential for an OTK still... I just have to re-think it a bit Falcon of the field, and a tengu atk tengu, atk falcon, bump tengu, SS tengu and Falcon and repeat... Didn't take much re-thinking But I guess that is what all the Tengu Decks are all about But if you are trying to lock down with Avien I think the ability to draw out this OTK stradegy would be incredibly helpful and actually give u a something to lock down up But I really want to create an OTK Deck for Mist Valley and for the time being I guess I'll go with your Deck... Works best if you can clear the field before hand, obviously If you ever do want to go with Synchros for an OTK the best way I've thought of is: All additional OTKs were just thwarted by the fact that Mist Condor (not in your deck) is not techniqually a Mist Valley card and cannot be used for the Synchro Summoning of Thunder Lord Again, I'm so sorry for the missunderstanding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznhobo Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 neg something for 2 icarus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 Not worth it, the spells/traps there should only be replaced by eqaully ranked cards... such as Trap Stun and Seven Tools of Bandit Plus, Avien negates things by bouncing a Tengu or TBird, which then gets a Special Summon Its not a question of targets, cause there are several and always to get more... but yeah... Its a good potential card if there were room At least that is my opinion... which could be wrong, I thought about mentioning the card b4 too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted April 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 [quote name='aznhobo' timestamp='1302228241' post='5121988'] neg something for 2 icarus? [/quote] I could try.... Oh and if you want Mist Valley OTK then Divine Wind Falcon and Tengu on field Attack Tengu (6300) Attack Falcon (4300) Bounce Tengu Get Tengu with Divine Wind get another Falcon Attack Tengu (2600) Attack Falcon (600) Bounce Tengu Get Tengu Attack Tengu (0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 [quote name='Odin el Padre de los Aesir' timestamp='1302295985' post='5123310'] I could try.... Oh and if you want Mist Valley OTK then Divine Wind Falcon and Tengu on field Attack Tengu (6300) Attack Falcon (4300) Bounce Tengu Get Tengu with Divine Wind get another Falcon Attack Tengu (2600) Attack Falcon (600) Bounce Tengu Get Tengu Attack Tengu (0) [/quote] Yeah I realised that was all it took, but I like a more colorful deck (aka 1 with more combinations then that)... which means not using that deck other people are saying is good I am basically just going to try to make my own Deck for it... :/ But I will probably use this deck until I can figure out my own and even then, I may use both... hahaa Depending on how much tengu costs and how much $$$ I can get by the Sneak-Peek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquistidor Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 i run mist valleys as my main deck. first of all, Avain cant bounce tengu to negate shiit. it's only good for negating by bouncing thunderbird, or the field spell itself. also, id like to suggest running Vortex Trooper. its a level 3 synchro fodder and like, its good for draw power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted April 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 I know that Avian cant return Tengu I would test Trooper if its effect would be also activated when it's ss but since you can only use effect when ns then im not going to bother. Also yay Tengu will be the sneak peak limited edition card! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DOOM Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Tried Genex Blastfan yet? It misses timing when summoned after you bounced thunderbird though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted April 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 [quote name='Hp doom' timestamp='1302348610' post='5124729'] Tried Genex Blastfan yet? It misses timing when summoned after you bounced thunderbird though. [/quote] Nah and I dont think I will, only have 2 targets right now. And if it misses the timing then I dont think im ever gonna try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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