ONE TURN KILL material monster on the rise

[Valkyrus]

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This card cannot be Special Summoned. While this monster card is in your hand, you can return as many of your removed from play DARK monsters to your Graveyard to increase this monster's level by the number of monsters returned. When Normal Summoned successfully this monster can attack your opponent directly multiple times equal to the number of DARK monsters returned to the Graveyard by this card's effect.
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inb4 OP'd
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[Ieyasu Tokugawa]

[quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1302276273' post='5122749']
inb4 OP'd
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The only thing that makes this OP'd is that you can return monsters to the Grave to refuel effects. This guy would most likely never be summoned.

[This Account is Unplayable]

This card's pretty interesting, actually. Although it seems weird being an EARTH monster, not a DARK one. But anyways... It can attack up to 8 times in one phase, due to level 12 being the limit, unless I'm mistaken, but even with that being somewhat difficult, that's still 6400 damage in one. It's also great for Synchro-ing in general. But I really don't think it's too OP. Maybe a limit on how many cards you can return?

[Ieyasu Tokugawa]

[quote name='Hounds of Anubis' timestamp='1302276697' post='5122765']
This card's pretty interesting, actually. Although it seems weird being an EARTH monster, not a DARK one. But anyways... It can attack up to 8 times in one phase, due to level 12 being the limit, unless I'm mistaken, but even with that being somewhat difficult, that's still 6400 damage in one. It's also great for Synchro-ing in general. But I really don't think it's too OP. Maybe a limit on how many cards you can return?
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Please take into account that it changes it's level while in your hand, so using it's effect makes it require a tribute.

[Master White]

@above:Isn't its effect like Geed Quasar's, so it can go past 12 and keep going to make an infinite loop of attacks? If so, I say op'd major

[Valkyrus]

[quote name='Hounds of Anubis' timestamp='1302276697' post='5122765']
This card's pretty interesting, actually. Although it seems weird being an EARTH monster, not a DARK one. But anyways... It can attack up to 8 times in one phase, due to level 12 being the limit, unless I'm mistaken, but even with that being somewhat difficult, that's still 6400 damage in one. It's also great for Synchro-ing in general. But I really don't think it's too OP. Maybe a limit on how many cards you can return?
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haha, not sure why I made it an EARTH monster...maybe cause it'd be more searchable?
no idea..

but I thought making it able to deal 6400 direct damage would be OPd, but I guess ideal conditions like that aren't so scary.
Even though you would need to tribute at least 1 monster and return 2 rmp DARK monsters to deal only 1600 direct damage.

Still, I do believe one can build a OTK deck around this card.

[This Account is Unplayable]

Ah, I missed that part entirely then... Well then other than re-fueling effects like mad, I see nothing wrong with it.

[Ieyasu Tokugawa]

I'm still saying returning cards to the Graveyard is OP'd.

[Valkyrus]

[quote name='General White' timestamp='1302277151' post='5122772']
@above:Isn't its effect like Geed Quasar's, so it can go past 12 and keep going to make an infinite loop of attacks? If so, I say op'd major
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nope, it can go up to 12
you'd still need 8 rfp DARK monsters for that though.
in ideal conditions it can deal 6400 direct damage

[Ieyasu Tokugawa]

[quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1302277373' post='5122777']
you'd still need 8 rfp DARK monsters for that though.
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[quote=lore said]
This card cannot be Special Summoned. While this monster card is in your hand, [b]you can return as many of your removed from play DARK monsters to your Graveyard[/b] to increase this monster's level by the number of monsters returned. When Normal Summoned successfully this monster can attack your opponent directly multiple times equal to the number of DARK monsters returned to the Graveyard by this card's effect.
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You didn't read your own card?

[Master White]

@Tsukasa Hiiragi: I don't think he knows about that....So it can....@Gandorator: Go read tips on Greed Quasar and you will know.

[Valkyrus]

[quote name='Tsukasa Hiiragi' timestamp='1302277463' post='5122780']
You didn't read your own card?
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you'd need to have (in ideal conditions) 8 removed from play DARK monsters SO THAT you can return them to your Graveyard to deal 6400 damage to your opponent
Was there ever a ruling that 12 stars isn't the limit? D"x
It should state it if it can go up to more than 12 no?
Mine doesn't, so I presumed 12 is the limit and doesn't need to be mentioned?

but if that's what you're talking about, yes I found my mistake in the OCG..
I should state level 12 is the limit.

[Icy]

[quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1302279105' post='5122813']
you'd need to have (in ideal conditions) 8 removed from play DARK monsters SO THAT you can return them to your Graveyard to deal 6400 damage to your opponent
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... No dude. There are plenty of cards out there that would psychotically refuel with this cards effect. DaD becomes a force again (due to this, literally giving it infinite ammo). Plaguespreader no longer has to worry about being RFP'd. Etc. You wouldn't even summon this card during a duel ._. much at all.

[Master White]

@Gandorator: Greed Quasar's effect makes it go past 12, so if the effect makes it increase levels, no matter how it's worded, it can go on up past 12 levels, unless you said (Max 12). I wasn't quite sure about it either, but I asked Max about it, and said so. So level on the card itself can't go past 12, but if the effect does not have restrictions, then it can.

[-Griffin]

So I return my N-Guardna, PSZ, Vayu, Siccoro, and some other stuff for fuel because I've already dropped DAD due to the Deck's perfect Grave setup.

Quite frankly, silly.

[Ieyasu Tokugawa]

[quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1302279407' post='5122820']
... No dude. There are plenty of cards out there that would psychotically refuel with this cards effect. DaD becomes a force again (due to this, literally giving it infinite ammo). Plaguespreader no longer has to worry about being RFP'd. Etc. You wouldn't even summon this card during a duel ._. much at all.
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[quote name='-Griffin' timestamp='1302279797' post='5122832']
So I return my N-Guardna, PSZ, Vayu, Siccoro, and some other stuff for fuel because I've already dropped DAD due to the Deck's perfect Grave setup.

Quite frankly, silly.
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These guys have said what I've been telling you for 2 posts already

[Valkyrus]

[quote name='Tsukasa Hiiragi' timestamp='1302279847' post='5122835']
These guys have said what I've been telling you for 2 posts already
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alright alright I get it now, I didn't think about that when I was writing the card, sorry ^^ ;;

Okay, then let me make the following fixes:

*this monster can attack your opponent directly. (non-trigger effect)
* its base ATK is 1000.
*and returns rfp'd DARK monsters to your deck instead of Graveyard

How's that sound?