Guest Black Fang Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 arms hole grabs Diffrent Dimmenons revival and revies DMOC' date=' it will get limited...[/quote'] I'm not saying it won't, but it shouldn't. Ban DMoC instead. if DMOC gets banned then maybe Arm's hole might not get affected by the ban list at all.. least it speeds the process of a Demise Dozer deck by grabbing Megamorph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Why limit deck building though? The decks that could use DDR or AH x 3 deserve to use them x 3. Limiting the pieces does not stop the infinite loop. It merely slows down the amount of times it happens. The problem still exists, except it turns the game into a "who can get DMoC and Arms Hole first" race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 arms hole grabs Diffrent Dimmenons revival and revies DMOC' date=' it will get limited...[/quote'] I'm not saying it won't, but it shouldn't. Ban DMoC instead. if DMOC gets banned then maybe Arm's hole might not get affected by the ban list at all.. least it speeds the process of a Demise Dozer deck by grabbing Megamorph. Exactly. Limiting Arms Hole doesn't stop DMoC abuse, it just slows it down. By banning DMoC, Arms Hole can actually help the playability of Equip cards, instead of just being a DMoC cycling engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Black Fang Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Why limit deck building though? The decks that could use DDR or AH x 3 deserve to use them x 3. Limiting the pieces does not stop the infinite loop. It merely slows down the amount of times it happens. The problem still exists' date=' except it turns the game into a "who can get DMoC and Arms Hole first" race.[/quote'] nice way to put that :p i wish Guardian Monsters had more support, then Arms hole would be alota fun to use with think just to get DDR and other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I really feel that they should ban DMOC. I mean, it's good for Spellcaster support, but too many people can abuse it for other things, and aren't using it just casually. Same thing with Dimension Fusion, but with RFG decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Bump because I can. And because this is still one of my favorite threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Premature Burial is a terrible card. It costs 800 Life Points. 800! That's almost 1000. Even cards that cost 500 Life Points don't cost as much as Premature Burial. And all you get is one monster from the graveyard. Who cares? If it's in the graveyard' date=' that means it was already killed, so your opponent probably controls a stronger monster already, summoning another monster is useless. And even then, all the opponent has to do is play Mystical Space Typhoon, Dust Tornado, or any of countless other destruction cards and you just wasted 800 Life Points FOR NOTHING. Plus, what if you're up against Macro Monarchs, which is the only good decktype in this format? You won't have anything to revive! It will be a dead draw. That's why I never use such a bad card. Even when you use Premature Burial, does it activate the effects of Monarchs you summon? NO! Does it let you summon good cards like Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon? NO! Can you summon Elemental Hero Avian with it? Yes, because Avian is a sucky card and is only used by n00bs that think GX is a good show. See? You can revive terrible cards like that, but nothing good, and it still costs 800 Life Points! Arms Hole is even worse. First, it makes you discard the top card of your deck. Suppose you loose a good card like Mirror Force. Is it really worth it? No! Random milling is only even remotely useful in Zombie decks, which rely on cards in the grave, and Zombies suck anyhow because none of the Monarchs are Zombies. If it let you decide what card to discard from your deck, it might be almost playable, but does it? NO! That's because it is a BAD CARD. Then you lose your Normal Summon. This is just ridiculous! How are you supposed to play if you can't Normal Summon! Instead of fetching some useless spell from your graveyard, you could have summoned someone like Granmarg and obliterated your opponent's field. But can you do that now? NO! Instead, you're stuck with some useless Equip Spell that costs a ton of Life Points and that you can't even use because your opponent is running Macro Monarchs, and if you're a half-decent duelist that doesn't spend all his time on Pojo, so do you. And there aren't even any other good Equip Spells. Sure, Megamorph boosts attack power, but attack power is useless, and even in a Demise deck, it's still not useful because you need your Life Points to be low for it to work, and if your Life Points are too high, it hurts you instead, and Demise sucks anyhow because Macro Monarchs destroys it and it requires too much luck. There are a couple of other Equip Spells that are almost half-decent in their own decks, like Crystal Release, but they're only for bad decktypes like Crystal Beasts and aren't at all useful to Macro Monarchs. So you're stuck with Premature Burial, which eats away at your Life Points for a mediocre effect at a terrible price that isn't even usable in today's meta. Plus, suppose the opponent has Light and Darkness Dragon out, since Twilight Circle is the one other good decktype out there. Can you play Premature Burial? NO! IT WILL JUST GET NEGATED AND YOU WASTED YOUR NORMAL SUMMON AND AN ENTIRE CARD FROM YOUR DECK FOR NOTHING! To the noobs pointing out that Premature Burial is Limited, that was just to prevent bad players from screwing themselves by running it in threes and clogging their hand with dead draws while obliterating their own Life Points. Suppose you could run 10 Premature Burial. Would you? NO! You'd kill yourself in the process, making all your pointless summons useless! See why these cards are worthless? Now come back once you've learned to distinguish between good cards like Mobius and bad cards like Arms Hole.[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 but.... i... preme... *tears* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Broken card before it is released lol. On an ideal ban list this card would be fine at 3 but due to konamis common sense taking a trip to cyprus then it will just be a looping instrument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoPaladin2008 Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 1.Play Spell Economics.2.Play Prem.3.Bring back Disc Commander.4.Draw 2.5.Arms Hole the Prem.6.Prem Disc.7.Draw 2.8.Repeat steps 5-7 twice Instant +9 anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzaman Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Prem stays on the field after it's activated... since it's an equip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSceptile Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Hey guys I heard of this new and exciting card called Kuraz the Light Monarch. He literally turns Premature Burial into Pot of Greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Hey guys I heard of this new and exciting card called Kuraz the Light Monarch. He literally turns Premature Burial into Pot of Greed. Hey guys I heard of this new and exciting card called Destiny Hero - Disk Commander. He literally turns Premature Burial (and Monster Reborn) into Pot of Greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Hey guys I heard of this new and exciting card called Kuraz the Light Monarch. He literally turns Premature Burial into Pot of Greed. Hey guys I heard of this new and exciting card called Destiny Hero - Disk Commander. He literally turns Premature Burial (and Monster Reborn) into Pot of Greed. Except he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Hey guys I heard of this new and exciting card called Kuraz the Light Monarch. He literally turns Premature Burial into Pot of Greed. Hey guys I heard of this new and exciting card called Destiny Hero - Disk Commander. He literally turns Premature Burial (and Monster Reborn) into Pot of Greed. Except he doesn't. My mistake. Disk Commander turns Premature Burial and Monster Reborn into Pot of Greed + 1 Fluff Token, which has ATK, DEF, and is a DARK Warrior that can attack and be Tributed the turn that it was Special Summoned + (in the case of Premature Burial) Toon World without being considered a Continuous Spell, and without effecting Toon Monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Hey guys I heard of this new and exciting card called Kuraz the Light Monarch. He literally turns Premature Burial into Pot of Greed. Hey guys I heard of this new and exciting card called Destiny Hero - Disk Commander. He literally turns Premature Burial (and Monster Reborn) into Pot of Greed. Except he doesn't. My mistake. Disk Commander turns Premature Burial and Monster Reborn into Pot of Greed + 1 Fluff Token' date=' which has ATK, DEF, and is a DARK Warrior that can attack and be Tributed the turn that it was Special Summoned + (in the case of Premature Burial) Toon World without being considered a Continuous Spell, and without effecting Toon Monsters.[/quote'] That's more like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b7hamma Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 This card is terrible and utterly worthless. furthermore' date=' WHY WOULD PREMATURE BE FORBIDDEN?[/quote']Turst horus he nows what hes talking about besides this card is crap no one runs equips professionally anymore and the odds of being able to use its effect is very low to low to put in a deck sleevereally' date=' you overrate a BAD card... why? because you can have 4 premature burials, but you must pay 800LP for each one, also it's mandatory to use it because you can't normal summon (wasting a cyber dragon to not use the premature) and the cost is to drop the top card of the deck... what if the card that you send to activate it is... another arms hole?? you lose one extra premature, and if it were a GOOD card like mirror force, dark bribe or the premature itself?? did you see the ruling if you can recover the card discarded to activate the cost? (if this card targets, you WON'T)[/quote']not worth decking Not being able to normal summon is a huge risk and i only run 1 equip... and thats premature...as said before Bad card terrible... periodthe only think i like is the art' date=' but it is useless as you cant normal summon and you lose a card from your deck. Azuh i belive that you are right, Kotetsu is way better.[/quote']No' date=' it is not. You have not given me 1 good reason to make me believe that this card is bad. How can the [b']1 drawback[/b] of a loss of 1 Normal Summon for 1 turn justify saying that this card is bad. Have you even read any of my arguments? This card makes other cards good. How can any card that searches for cards from both the Graveyard and deck be anything less than above average? And you never answered my question: Do you think that Card Trooper is a bad card? 1? 1? ONE? More like 2 1. You must discard the top card from your deck.2. You cannot Normal Summon this turn (although you can still Set.) Normal Summons these days can you give HUGE advanges over the field and if you discard a GOOD card from the top of your deck or a card that was really needed or a powerfull Spell/Trap, then what? You basicly waste 2 cards; this card and the top deck card. And people barery play with equip cards anymore. Only and mostly Premature Burial. Conclusion: This card is bad and I mean, BAD YCM still delivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Bump because I can. And because it still delivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Dinosaur Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 But hasn't the point already been said Chaos Pudding? Bad card is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 But hasn't the point already been said Chaos Pudding? Bad card is bad. Your attempt at creating lulz has not succeeded. Please don't try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Dinosaur Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 But hasn't the point already been said Chaos Pudding? Bad card is bad. Your attempt at creating lulz has not succeeded. Please don't try again. Read the post right above your first one. In fact, read the card text on Arms Hole. Don't say things like that man. It's been said before me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 But hasn't the point already been said Chaos Pudding? Bad card is bad. Your attempt at creating lulz has not succeeded. Please don't try again. Read the post right above your first one. In fact' date=' read the card text on Arms Hole. Don't say things like that man. It's been said before me.[/quote'] You just don't get it, do you? When one tries to be funny is often when one is at one's lowest point of funniness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Dinosaur Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 But hasn't the point already been said Chaos Pudding? Bad card is bad. Your attempt at creating lulz has not succeeded. Please don't try again. Read the post right above your first one. In fact' date=' read the card text on Arms Hole. Don't say things like that man. It's been said before me.[/quote'] You just don't get it, do you? When one tries to be funny is often when one is at one's lowest point of funniness. I didn't try to be funny there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharaoh_Atem Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Ok, I guess you're just either bad at being sarcastic, or just plain wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Dinosaur Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Ok' date=' I guess you're just either bad at being sarcastic, or just plain wrong.[/quote'] Unbelievable!! I've token your advice and I've respected you, but if you go any further, you'll just lose it. I wasn't trying to be sarcastic, wrong, contradictory or anything of the like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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