Cyber Altair Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 the only think i like is the art, but it is useless as you cant normal summon and you lose a card from your deck. Azuh i belive that you are right, Kotetsu is way better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 the only think i like is the art' date=' but it is useless as you cant normal summon and you lose a card from your deck. Azuh i belive that you are right, Kotetsu is way better.[/quote'] Again with the saying that milling is bad. Do you think that Card Trooper is a bad card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 the only think i like is the art' date=' but it is useless as you cant normal summon and you lose a card from your deck. Azuh i belive that you are right, Kotetsu is way better.[/quote'] Again with the saying that milling is bad. Do you think that Card Trooper is a bad card? *slaps forhead* well it's not too bad but still you can replace it. and it is BAD so get over it dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Card Trooper is completley different you get rid of 3 cards instead of 1 plus you can draw if Trooper is destroyed Trooper owns Arms hole doesnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 the only think i like is the art' date=' but it is useless as you cant normal summon and you lose a card from your deck. Azuh i belive that you are right, Kotetsu is way better.[/quote'] Again with the saying that milling is bad. Do you think that Card Trooper is a bad card? *slaps forhead* well it's not too bad but still you can replace it. and it is BAD so get over it dude. No, it is not. You have not given me 1 good reason to make me believe that this card is bad. How can the 1 drawback of a loss of 1 Normal Summon for 1 turn justify saying that this card is bad. Have you even read any of my arguments? This card makes other cards good. How can any card that searches for cards from both the Graveyard and deck be anything less than above average? And you never answered my question: Do you think that Card Trooper is a bad card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaco Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 I agree with pudding on this one First off, any card that lets you search from your Deck or Graveyard is at least a little good. Secondly, like he said, (if it's unlimited) it IS like having 3-4 Premature Burials at your disposal. Premature is the obvious choice, and there aren't really too many good Equip Spells, but you could always search Ekibyo Drakmord, United we Stand, Mage Power, Crystal Release, Megamorph, ext. Thirdly, you get to send a card from your deck to the grave, that's just 1 less card in your deck. If it's a monster, that's all the better. There is the downside that you can't normal summon for the turn... but normal summoning is overrated ^^.No, that is sort of a problem, actually.Because if you do choose Premature Burial, you're basically giving up your normal summon to Special Summon a monster from your Graveyard for 800 LP... Nevermind, that isn't that bad at all.And you can always Special Summon something like Cydra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 the only think i like is the art' date=' but it is useless as you cant normal summon and you lose a card from your deck. Azuh i belive that you are right, Kotetsu is way better.[/quote'] Again with the saying that milling is bad. Do you think that Card Trooper is a bad card? *slaps forhead* well it's not too bad but still you can replace it. and it is BAD so get over it dude. No, it is not. You have not given me 1 good reason to make me believe that this card is bad. How can the 1 drawback of a loss of 1 Normal Summon for 1 turn justify saying that this card is bad. Have you even read any of my arguments? This card makes other cards good. How can any card that searches for cards from both the Graveyard and deck be anything less than above average? And you never answered my question: Do you think that Card Trooper is a bad card? i said, it isnt too good. Now reasons ladies and gentlemen-You may lose a good card that you have discarded and the loss of a card isn't really the best thing that could happen to you while Kotetsu has no such cost.Another cost is that you can't Normal Summon, while you can Special Summon but not bieng able to Normal Summon will certainly weeken your defences.Ok, you get to search your deck but what? many cards can do that and 1 equip card maya) not make mush deffrienceb) might not have the result you accpectedso why even lose the opportunity to NS and discard one card from your deck when using Kotetsu you can avoid such drawbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 the only think i like is the art' date=' but it is useless as you cant normal summon and you lose a card from your deck. Azuh i belive that you are right, Kotetsu is way better.[/quote'] Again with the saying that milling is bad. Do you think that Card Trooper is a bad card? *slaps forhead* well it's not too bad but still you can replace it. and it is BAD so get over it dude. No, it is not. You have not given me 1 good reason to make me believe that this card is bad. How can the 1 drawback of a loss of 1 Normal Summon for 1 turn justify saying that this card is bad. Have you even read any of my arguments? This card makes other cards good. How can any card that searches for cards from both the Graveyard and deck be anything less than above average? And you never answered my question: Do you think that Card Trooper is a bad card? 1? 1? ONE? More like 2 1. You must discard the top card from your deck.2. You cannot Normal Summon this turn (although you can still Set.) Normal Summons these days can you give HUGE advanges over the field and if you discard a GOOD card from the top of your deck or a card that was really needed or a powerfull Spell/Trap, then what? You basicly waste 2 cards; this card and the top deck card. And people barery play with equip cards anymore. Only and mostly Premature Burial. Conclusion: This card is bad and I mean, BAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 the only think i like is the art' date=' but it is useless as you cant normal summon and you lose a card from your deck. Azuh i belive that you are right, Kotetsu is way better.[/quote'] Again with the saying that milling is bad. Do you think that Card Trooper is a bad card? *slaps forhead* well it's not too bad but still you can replace it. and it is BAD so get over it dude. No, it is not. You have not given me 1 good reason to make me believe that this card is bad. How can the 1 drawback of a loss of 1 Normal Summon for 1 turn justify saying that this card is bad. Have you even read any of my arguments? This card makes other cards good. How can any card that searches for cards from both the Graveyard and deck be anything less than above average? And you never answered my question: Do you think that Card Trooper is a bad card? i said, it isnt too good. Now reasons ladies and gentlemen-You may lose a good card that you have discarded and the loss of a card isn't really the best thing that could happen to you while Kotetsu has no such cost.Another cost is that you can't Normal Summon, while you can Special Summon but not bieng able to Normal Summon will certainly weeken your defences.Ok, you get to search your deck but what? many cards can do that and 1 equip card maya) not make mush deffrienceb) might not have the result you accpectedso why even lose the opportunity to NS and discard one card from your deck when using Kotetsu you can avoid such drawbacks. Not just your deck, but both your deck and your Graveyard. That alone makes it a great searcher. And don't bring up Kotetsu again: it isn't even in the same league as Arms Hole. Far too slow just to run it because it doesn't prevent a Normal Summon. the only think i like is the art' date=' but it is useless as you cant normal summon and you lose a card from your deck. Azuh i belive that you are right, Kotetsu is way better.[/quote'] Again with the saying that milling is bad. Do you think that Card Trooper is a bad card? *slaps forhead* well it's not too bad but still you can replace it. and it is BAD so get over it dude. No, it is not. You have not given me 1 good reason to make me believe that this card is bad. How can the 1 drawback of a loss of 1 Normal Summon for 1 turn justify saying that this card is bad. Have you even read any of my arguments? This card makes other cards good. How can any card that searches for cards from both the Graveyard and deck be anything less than above average? And you never answered my question: Do you think that Card Trooper is a bad card? 1? 1? ONE? More like 2 1. You must discard the top card from your deck.2. You cannot Normal Summon this turn (although you can still Set.) Normal Summons these days can you give HUGE advanges over the field and if you discard a GOOD card from the top of your deck or a card that was really needed or a powerfull Spell/Trap, then what? You basicly waste 2 cards; this card and the top deck card. And people barery play with equip cards anymore. Only and mostly Premature Burial. Conclusion: This card is bad and I mean, BAD How exactly can you say that milling is a DRAWBACK? I'll ask you the same question: is Card Trooper a bad card just because you have a CHANCE that you could mill something that can't be brought back? And did you even read what I have written? This card will make other Equips playable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 the only think i like is the art' date=' but it is useless as you cant normal summon and you lose a card from your deck. Azuh i belive that you are right, Kotetsu is way better.[/quote'] Again with the saying that milling is bad. Do you think that Card Trooper is a bad card? *slaps forhead* well it's not too bad but still you can replace it. and it is BAD so get over it dude. No, it is not. You have not given me 1 good reason to make me believe that this card is bad. How can the 1 drawback of a loss of 1 Normal Summon for 1 turn justify saying that this card is bad. Have you even read any of my arguments? This card makes other cards good. How can any card that searches for cards from both the Graveyard and deck be anything less than above average? And you never answered my question: Do you think that Card Trooper is a bad card? 1? 1? ONE? More like 2 1. You must discard the top card from your deck.2. You cannot Normal Summon this turn (although you can still Set.) Normal Summons these days can you give HUGE advanges over the field and if you discard a GOOD card from the top of your deck or a card that was really needed or a powerfull Spell/Trap, then what? You basicly waste 2 cards; this card and the top deck card. And people barery play with equip cards anymore. Only and mostly Premature Burial. Conclusion: This card is bad and I mean, BAD How exactly can you say that milling is a DRAWBACK? I'll ask you the same question: is Card Trooper a bad card just because you have a CHANCE that you could mill something that can't be brought back? And did you even read what I have written? This card will make other Equips playable. Did you even read what I said?Equip cards are barely used these days. And Card Trooper is only good in contain decks, like in Zombie decks (I think, since they involves your graveyard often). But this card only discards 1 card from the your deck. It's so damn slow, it only gets equip cards, most of the equips suck and this card will be a freaking dead draw most of the times. EDIT: I also forgot to add that if you can't Normal Summon, you have 1 hell of a drawback if your opponent Fissures, Heavy Storms, MST's, Smashing Grounds, etc. your cards. AND NOT ALL DECKS INVOLVES AROUND GRAVEYARDS, SO TROOPER ISN'T ALWAYS USEFULL!!! ONLY IN CONTAIN DECKS OR CONTAIN SITUATIONS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaco Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 I feel like I'm in the twilight zone or something. When I look at this card I see all the potential in the world, I really didn't expect ANYONE to say this card was anywhere near bad. Oh, Kotetsu does kinda take up a normal summon.I mean you have to set it, then hope it gets attacked, and it will probably be removed by Crossout or destroyed by some other card anyways. And it only searches from your deck.With this card, you can search from your Deck or Graveyard, and once you activate it's a sure thing that you're going to get a spell, whereas with Kotetsu, well, I already stated that above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Supreme Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Really, you think this card is great. Okay look, people dont run equips that much, maybe in beatdown decks but not that much. Why the hell would you waste space in your Deck to get premature to your hand, and you could have already played it before this card was played. Not that much decks run more than 3 or 2 equips anymore, maybe n00bish ones only. Also you lose a Normal Summon, which makes it worse, you know Premature V.S MST... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Really' date=' you think this card is great. Okay look, people dont run equips that much, maybe in beatdown decks but not that much. Why the hell would you waste space in your Deck to get premature to your hand, and you could have already played it before this card was played. Not that much decks run more than 3 or 2 equips anymore, maybe n00bish ones only. Also you lose a Normal Summon, which makes it worse, you know Premature V.S MST...[/quote'] and twister...and heavy storm...and Magic Jammer...and Dark Dribe...and etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaco Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Really' date=' you think this card is great. Okay look, people dont run equips that much, maybe in beatdown decks but not that much. Why the hell would you waste space in your Deck to get premature to your hand, and you could have already played it before this card was played. Not that much decks run more than 3 or 2 equips anymore, maybe n00bish ones only. Also you lose a Normal Summon, which makes it worse, you know Premature V.S MST...[/quote'] I'm not saying it's the best card in the world or anything, I just don't think it deserves this much negativity. Maybe equip spells would get more use in more decks if this card was released, who knows. I know what a bad card is, and this card is not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Maybe equip spells would get more use in more decks if this card was released' date=' who knows. [/quote'] How about no :| I know what a bad card is' date=' and this card is not [i']bad[/i]. And how is this card not bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaco Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 How about no How about maybe :? And how is this card not bad? Check all of my and pudding's previous posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Supreme Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Also, milling is usually good in Zombie Decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaco Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Yeah, it is particularly good in zombie decks, but it isn't necessarily bad in other decks. Come to think of it, this card would be pretty good in a six samurai deck (assuming you run the equip spell... and I guess even if you didn't) Since some SS builds rely on getting the SSs into the grave, then brining them out with the Warrior Returning Alive. You can mill a card (hopefully a SS)Then get the Equip Spell and equip it to one of your SS. Besides SS have a lot of monsters that can be Special Summoned, as well as a lot of S/T cards to Special Summon them, so the loss of a normal summon wouldn't be the end of the world. And if they decided to get out Premie with it, all the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 This topic made me smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 ^^^^spam guys i have like 3-5 Equip cards in my CD's deck and they have a good point of boosting your card but still not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jib Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 This topic is pro. To anyone who said that the only equip they run is Premature : bravo, you've successfully fulfilled the requirements to abuse Arms Hole. Great place you got here Hikaru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzumakinaruto93 Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 except for premature burial pretty much all equip cards r thrash so its not really that good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaco Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 The thing is, even if you ONLY use premie, (like Jib said) You can still get a lot of use out of this card. (I'm sure we've said it at least 4 times by now) But it's like having 4 copies of Premie in your deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slash Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 This card is terrible and utterly worthless. furthermore' date=' WHY WOULD PREMATURE BE FORBIDDEN?[/quote'] Ditto.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaco Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Forgot this little guy But I guess I don't have much else to say. I've already thrown everything I had in defense of this card, so yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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