Orochi Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 right sartorius... i forgot the crow... more reasons to NOT running this card on 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b7hamma Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 Crow is not a valid argument for Frog, it sure won't be one for Prem. Yes it can stop it, but Crow can aslo stop the Envoys... But still' date=' the Japanese will break the card too.[/quote']It's already done. Orochi, I won't even dignify that with a response, you obviously have never touched a DDT deck in your life and haven't the foggiest about a little thing called synergy. More relevant to the topic is Different Dimension Revival' date=' which is an Equip Spell itself.[/quote'] Thank you, I knew I was missing something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartorius Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 Heh. Not everyone understands all these game terms well. Of course, I do understand Synergy, Advantage etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 wrong, crow CAN'T stop envoys... and for your acknowledge, i used on this site the concept "synergy" before you even knew this forum exists... and i designed myself a DDT, an apprentice monarch, an exodia deck, a deckout, several tematic decks, even an ojama lock deck... i won't even dignify that with sending you to suck a duck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartorius Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 Back down man, this isn't an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 what i find stupid about this topic is that you all say that 4 Prematures will be run because of this card i do not think so it would be a waste of pure deck space... and will not be banned.. cause who the hell is going to use Premature 4 times in a duel? half the time i dont even use Premature, from not even drawing it it will not cause Premature to be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartorius Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 But we're focusing on the aspect of combos with DMoC, Disk etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 if you combo it right... maybe it will work... but its still an "i dont know" for me 3 Arm Hole cards can be used for more important cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 agree with that... everyone here is talking about using 3 of them on a deck, and don't consider the fact that 3 of those cards is a dead draw anytime... but i won't be so rude... i'll tell you what deck would be reborn with this card... ben-kei OTK... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 Just because you don't play Prem often now doesn't mean that that won't change once Arms Hole is released in English. Trust me, after playing the OCG, Arms Hole is something you see almost every duel, and it almost always comes down to who can start the DMoC cycle first. It is madness. wrong' date=' crow CAN'T stop envoys... and for your acknowledge, i used on this site the concept "synergy" before you even knew this forum exists... and i designed myself a DDT, an apprentice monarch, an exodia deck, a deckout, several tematic decks, even an ojama lock deck... i won't even dignify that with sending you to suck a duck...[/quote'] How exactly is removing one of the parts for the Envoys not stopping them? You play BLS, you choose to remove Marshmallon and Spirit Reaper, and you chain D.D. Crow to remove Marshmallon. Summoning stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartorius Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 Just because you don't play Prem often now doesn't mean that that won't change once Arms Hole is released in English. Trust me' date=' after playing the OCG, Arms Hole is something you see almost every duel, and it almost always comes down to who can start the DMoC cycle first. It is madness. wrong, crow CAN'T stop envoys... and for your acknowledge, i used on this site the concept "synergy" before you even knew this forum exists... and i designed myself a DDT, an apprentice monarch, an exodia deck, a deckout, several tematic decks, even an ojama lock deck... i won't even dignify that with sending you to suck a duck... How exactly is removing one of the parts for the Envoys not stopping them? You play BLS, you choose to remove Marshmallon and Spirit Reaper, and you chain D.D. Crow to remove Marshmallon. Summoning stopped. WRONG. The removal of the Light+Dark is a COST to summon the card. It is done before any sort of response from the opponent. Learn the basic rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 Just because you don't play Prem often now doesn't mean that that won't change once Arms Hole is released in English. Trust me' date=' after playing the OCG, Arms Hole is something you see almost every duel, and it almost always comes down to who can start the DMoC cycle first. It is madness. wrong, crow CAN'T stop envoys... and for your acknowledge, i used on this site the concept "synergy" before you even knew this forum exists... and i designed myself a DDT, an apprentice monarch, an exodia deck, a deckout, several tematic decks, even an ojama lock deck... i won't even dignify that with sending you to suck a duck... How exactly is removing one of the parts for the Envoys not stopping them? You play BLS, you choose to remove Marshmallon and Spirit Reaper, and you chain D.D. Crow to remove Marshmallon. Summoning stopped. WRONG. The removal of the Light+Dark is a COST to summon the card. It is done before any sort of response from the opponent. Learn the basic rules. Really? Oh, well, so it can't stop Chaos. It's been a while since I've played against Chaos decks, so will you excuse me if I'm a bit rusty on the mechanics of their summoning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartorius Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 It's cool man. Don't take offense ;] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 Oh, and just in case someone, somewhere, still doesn't think that Arms Hole is an abusibly great card: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/showthread.php?tid=26809&pid=413979& Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silencerleader Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 It;s a pretty good card to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 Sartorius is correct; likewise, Crow can't be chained on the summoning of a second Malicious or Doom Dozer. 3 Arm Hole cards can be used for more important cards Like AXE OF DESPAIR right? half the time i dont even use Premature, from not even drawing it You are now four times more likely to draw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoolMeNever Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 Well, it's a good card, but I wouldn't run 3 of them JUST for preme, you would have to pay 3200 Life Points just to use all of them. But, also imagine how broken it would be in traditional, think Spells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 3200 is much to high a cost to win the duel, isn't it? Don't get me started on Solemn. And there a lot of good Equips in Traditional. Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoolMeNever Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 3200 is much to high a cost to win the duel' date=' isn't it? Don't get me started on Solemn.[/quote'] Well, true, but I don't like paying Life Points to begin with, that's why I prefer Call over Preme. What I meant by Spells in traditional is Snatch Steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 With all these DARK decks that will be running around post-PTDN, I can see Prem + Arms Hole x 3 + DMoC + Different Dimension Revival x 3 + your DARK monster of choice becoming extremely overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 don't thing so... with that combination you are inviting an empty hand that will draw an arms hole when you need a better card to defend yourself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 So when you're topdecking, Premature is somehow a bad option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Age_User Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 don't thing so... with that combination you are inviting an empty hand that will draw an arms hole when you need a better card to defend yourself... How does Arms Hole NOT defend you? Revive ANY monster from your grave with Premature Burial. Bring back ANY RFG-ed monster with DDR.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 don't thing so... with that combination you are inviting an empty hand that will draw an arms hole when you need a better card to defend yourself... And how would an Arms Hole be a bad thing? Fetch Prem, bring back stuff. Protection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b7hamma Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 don't thing so... with that combination you are inviting an empty hand that will draw an arms hole when you need a better card to defend yourself... Why yes, defense is your best option when you have a 2800 monster on the field that your opponent CAN'T get rid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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