LGBT Terrific!

[Kenny Bohner]

So, as of late, I've been positively stunned by my peers; people who identify themselves as atheists, though profess that homosexuality is immoral; note, I didn't say "impractical," but "immoral." Tell me, without using any sort of religious justification, why homosexuality is immoral.

[Guest]

Tell me, without using any sort of religious justification, why homosexuality is immoral.

That's what's generally called a probatio diabolica.

[Guest Identity Unknown]

So, as of late, I've been positively stunned by my peers; people who identify themselves as atheists, though profess that homosexuality is immoral; note, I didn't say "impractical," but "immoral." Tell me, without using any sort of religious justification, why homosexuality is immoral.

They can believe whatever they want sometimes they dont have justification they just feel it weird...

[Guest]

They can believe whatever they want sometimes they dont have justification they just feel it weird...

Then I can believe with justification that they're all backwards morons whose breath is a waste of oxygen.

[Guest Identity Unknown]

Then I can believe with justification that they're all backwards morons whose breath is a waste of oxygen.

*Carbon Dioxide

And you and me both :D

[Ieyasu Tokugawa]

So, as of late, I've been positively stunned by my peers; people who identify themselves as atheists, though profess that homosexuality is immoral; note, I didn't say "impractical," but "immoral." Tell me, without using any sort of religious justification, why homosexuality is immoral.

Athiests can still base their beliefs off of religeons.

 

Then I can believe with justification that they're all backwards morons whose breath is a waste of oxygen.

Who's stopping you?

[Kenny Bohner]

Athiests can still base their beliefs off of religeons.

 

I suppose that they could, but what sense would that make?

 

Then I can believe with justification that they're all backwards morons whose breath is a waste of oxygen.

 

Words cannot describe how much I like you, you know that?

[Dark]

people who identify themselves as atheists, though profess that homosexuality is immoral

 

Obviously the minority of people who consider themselves atheists. When most people think of atheist, all religious banter aside, most think of highly liberal, highly educated people. People who profess that homosexuality is immoral are one or more of the following: conservative, uneducated, and/or religiously-stimulated. Atheists are not usually conservative, not usually uneducated, and almost never like to associate beliefs shared with the religions which we've left and don't plan on rejoining. Maybe it's just me, and maybe I shouldn't speak for every atheist on the planet, but we left our religions because of such stupid beliefs and lack of logic. I don't see why any atheist would want to leave a religion just to have the same shitty beliefs.

 

There is no argument to why homosexuality is immoral, and the entire issue would have gone unnoticed if the two or three dumbass preists who wrote the Bible never existed. All the talk about homosexuality is all religious. I use all because it literally is all religious; with stem cell research and abortion, maybe you might get a few, albeit stupid, moral arguments, but talks against homosexuality are completely and entirely religious. Just because the Bible says two men can't "sleep together" doesn't mean all homosexuals are going to hell, it doesn't mean that homosexuality is a sin, and it doesn't mean that God made homosexuals as a way to incur wrath on the human race. And if any of those are true, your God is extremely kind. I'd love to believe in him as a supreme being that forgives all. More like the biggest asshole I've met, even more than myself.

 

Talks against homosexuality aren't just limited to the Bible; the Koran and I believe even the Torah talk about homosexuality being against God's (or Allah's) will. More of the "softer" religions, such as Buddhism and Hinduism either never make a mention of homosexuality in religious texts, or a large portion of their followers are entirely apathetic towards the entire situation. It just baffles me that all of the monotheistic religions (with the exception of Pastafarianism) share the same stupid, illogical beliefs, while many polytheistic religions are more modernized and... not retarded.

 

Let's also not forget that homosexuality is proven to be predominantly genetic. Crab Helmet made a beautiful argument about this a few threads ago, and if I had the patience to find her quotes in previous threads, I would place them here.

[Tentacruel]

Cool story bro.

[Ieyasu Tokugawa]

Cool story bro.

He's making a lot more sense than you are.

[Kenny Bohner]

@Dark: I'm an atheist, just so we're clear.

 

@ADHD: Did you post something earlier and then delete it, or something like that?

[.Starrk]

Cool story bro.

 

Dude get the f*** out.

 

 

People believe what they want to believe by jumping on the bandwagon.They hear things that frighten them and don't want it to happen. So, by being retards, the assume gay people are the devil, and the homosexuality is imoral. People just say they are atheist to get away with things. It's an excuse.

[Spirit of DMG]

First off, just in case you don't already know, Christianity is an evolution of Judaism (Or whatever the Jewish Religion's proper name is) and thus it would only make sense that many of the beliefs are shared beliefs, the biggest difference being a belief in Christ as Messiah.

Secondly, Just so you know, The Bible as we know it wasn't written by two or three priests. It was written by a bunch of scattered minds who had never met each other. then Constantene became the Emporer of Rome, and sought to unify Rome. To this end, he ised Religion, and by reading through many Christian documents, he compiled a few of the ones that agreed (For the most part) with eachother, and created a single Holy Text. Knowing this, it is reasonable to conclude that Constantene was Anti-Gay or something like that. Therefore the "Christian" Ban on Homosexuality was entirely the workings of a single Pagan-Christian Convert. Because, before this one man banned any Christian texts that he didn't put in the original Bible, there were other sects that were more relaxed than others. I don't know much about them, so I can't say if they allowed for Homosexuality or not.

[Vough]

^I don't know about the other books that were not included, such as the book of Judas in the original Bible. However, I don't think it's completely reasonable to say that all Christian religions' beliefs stemmed from Constantine's Holy Text.

[Guest Anthony Hatsune]

First off, just in case you don't already know, Christianity is an evolution of Judaism (Or whatever the Jewish Religion's proper name is) and thus it would only make sense that many of the beliefs are shared beliefs, the biggest difference being a belief in Christ as Messiah.

Secondly, Just so you know, The Bible as we know it wasn't written by two or three priests. It was written by a bunch of scattered minds who had never met each other. then Constantene became the Emporer of Rome, and sought to unify Rome. To this end, he ised Religion, and by reading through many Christian documents, he compiled a few of the ones that agreed (For the most part) with eachother, and created a single Holy Text. Knowing this, it is reasonable to conclude that Constantene was Anti-Gay or something like that. Therefore the "Christian" Ban on Homosexuality was entirely the workings of a single Pagan-Christian Convert. Because, before this one man banned any Christian texts that he didn't put in the original Bible, there were other sects that were more relaxed than others. I don't know much about them, so I can't say if they allowed for Homosexuality or not.

Actually Constantine barely had any part in its creation the original Bible was created by the Council of Nicea which was created by Constantine although I don't think he naturally payed much attention to it but if he did then I guess he had a part to play...

[Great Unclean One: VK]

As a bisexual, I had to put up with a lot of bullshit in both school and my house.

 

The idiots at high school (Namely jocks, some stoners, girls, and a certain Government Studies teacher) gave me a lot of flak all because I liked certains guys. Sadly, there was no cuties there.....

 

Of course having people constantly walk up to me to ask me retarded questions like:

 

Are you Japanese?

 

So is it true your not allowed to eat any meat in Buddhism?

 

And to top it all off, the jocks threats and constant bullshit.

 

People who think homosexuality is wrong are usually just idiots.

 

Hell, one of my teachers thought it was wrong.

 

Namely because he said he was a devout Roman Catholic.

 

Hell, I remember one prime minister of some country said homosexuality is wrong, rare, and unnatural even in the animal kingdom.....

 

It's the complete opposite IRL.

[Vough]

OMG GAYS MAKE ME LOSE TAX DOLLARS

MY MONEY GOES TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM WHEN A GAY GUY GETS A RECTAL PROLAPSE

GAYS = WASTE OF TAX DOLLARS

OMFGASDFSD QWFWSDFS

[Shradow]

I don't have a problem with homosexuality and logically it doesn't seem immoral to me. I also never understood why people give others flak about it. If you don't like it, ignore it and it won't have anything to do with your life.

 

If people find it gets in their life too much or something, that's probably becuase they take the time to bully or belittle gays who would otherwise have nothing to do with them.

 

I'd like to have some gay friends, they'd definitely be nicer than some of the idiots I have to deal with down here in the south...

[Luna Lovegood]

The only argument I can see against homosexuality is a completely crazy one. The purpose of life is to reproduce. Homosexuality =/= reproduction. Of course I disagree with this idea, but it seems like the only marginally logical reason.

[Vough]

The only argument I can see against homosexuality is a completely crazy one. The purpose of life is to reproduce. Homosexuality =/= reproduction. Of course I disagree with this idea, but it seems like the only marginally logical reason.

OMG GAYS MAKE ME LOSE TAX DOLLARS

MY MONEY GOES TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM WHEN A GAY GUY GETS A RECTAL PROLAPSE

GAYS = WASTE OF TAX DOLLARS

[Guest]

The only argument I can see against homosexuality is a completely crazy one. The purpose of life is to reproduce. Homosexuality =/= reproduction. Of course I disagree with this idea, but it seems like the only marginally logical reason.

By that logic, anything that does not support reproduction is bad. The internet? It can't get me pregnant, therefore it is evil. Card games? Can't bear children, so they must be the devil. Birth control? So full of evil anti-life that Darkseid would give up looking for his precious equation in an instant if he knew about it.

 

Also, homosexuality has been speculated to have evolutionary advantages. For example, if a male animal is gay, it will not be killed as a rival to other males, which allows it to live and protect its relatives, which helps propagate its genes.

[Grunt Issun]

That's a good point, I guess a homosexual animal wouldn't need to compete for mates (at least not as likley to) either.

[Vough]

That's a good point, I guess a homosexual animal wouldn't need to compete for mates (at least not as likley to) either.

 

Yes, but would the other animals know that? 0.0

[Guest]

Yes, but would the other animals know that? 0.0

A gay animal would have no motivation to fight for dominance, so they would not fight unless forced to fight. It would be evolutionarily advantageous for other animals to learn to recognize this, since doing so would allow them to avoid unnecessary fights and thus minimize danger to themselves.

[JordanPark24]

A gay animal would have no motivation to fight for dominance, so they would not fight unless forced to fight. It would be evolutionarily advantageous for other animals to learn to recognize this, since doing so would allow them to avoid unnecessary fights and thus minimize danger to themselves.

 

That is an insanely good point you made.

 

Anyway, being a gay teen myself, I find people who think Homosexuality is immoral either uneducated or extremely bored considering how much time they waste trying to find evidence to back up their opinions.