Airride Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 He's level 8. Dark world are interesting, but I don't like them that much. But this guy is like AWESOMENESS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizuku Oikawa Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 *Looks at art* DO GAWD DAMN WANT! What's that Equip Spell next to it? Does it involve random discarding effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 [quote name='Chihaya Kisaragi' timestamp='1302993720' post='5143988'] Not sure why I included Fableds in this.. [/quote] Years later, Konami made an archetype called [s]Fabled[/s]"Darkworld 2.0", and they work with costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 [quote name='Chihaya Kisaragi' timestamp='1302995399' post='5144053'] *Looks at art* DO GAWD DAMN WANT! What's that Equip Spell next to it? Does it involve random discarding effects? [/quote] It is actually a Field Spell Called "Gate of the Dark World" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 DW Field spell O.o hope its has some kind of discard effect so you can spam DWs Effect though if it does it will most likely be once per turn thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizuku Oikawa Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 I see, cool. What does it do, I'm wondering. If the Field Spell is almost as cool, or just as cool as Necrovalley or Dragon Ravine, I'll definitely buy copies of the Structure Deck. "Gate of the Dark World" sounds too close to "Gateway of the Dark World" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Field Spell? Thank you god!! I've been dying for a field spell, lets pray its good and the dragon's art is SO sick What is different about the fabled that lets them work with Costs, but not the DarkWorlds?? Thats honestly not fair... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Fabled have synchros thats konamis piont XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Fableds have Synchros... yeah... so how does that mean they can be even more broken by never missing timing AND using Cost effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Seems like it remember Konami logic is screwy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 [quote name='Nightmare Zarkus' timestamp='1302995287' post='5144047'] [img]http://pic.newwise.com/bbs_fj/day_110416/1104161923a21a95bf00e63a2f.jpg[/img] [/quote] *orgasms* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 The Field Spell better be a Darkworld version of Safe Return. If not... KONAMI, I AM DISAPPOINT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizuku Oikawa Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 I hope the Field Spell is like Royal Tribute but in Field Spell Form for Dark Worlds, then it would be trololol. [quote name='Boss Z' timestamp='1302996384' post='5144084'] What is different about the fabled that lets them work with Costs, but not the DarkWorlds?? Thats honestly not fair... [/quote] [spoiler=I'll explain through cards] Make sure to look below the cards to explain the difference between Fableds and Dark Worlds. [img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/8/87/FabledValkyrusHA02-EN-ScR-1E.jpg[/img] "[b]Discard 1 card to[/b]" where "to" automatically makes it a cost. You see here is Valkyrus, with the effect of discarding a Fiend to draw 1 card. It's a cost because you discard a card as soon as it is activated, even if his effect was negated, like Divine Wrath for example (which also discards for a cost). You see here a Fabled Krus, with its requirement of activation is to just to be discarded, with no optional choice of using its effect, so discard costs like Fabled Valkyrus, makes you activate Krus' effect to Special Summon a Fabled, even if there is no target in your Graveyard to select, after the chain of Valkyrus' effect resolves. [img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/e/e6/FabledKrusHA03-EN-ScR-1E.jpg[/img] "[b]When this card is discarded to the Graveyard[/b]" is the requirement of activation. So, like if you have 7 cards in your hand when you end your turn, and discard this, Krus will still activate. Same goes for when it is discarded by effect. Now here is an actual Dark World Monster. [img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/a/a7/Sillva%2CWarlordofDarkWorldGLD1-EN-C-LE.png[/img] "[b]If this card is discard from the hand to the Graveyard by a card effect[/b]" is the requirement, seeing how it says card effect, Fabled Valkyrus' is a cost, and Sillva cannot activate to something that didn't happen, since there was no effect of discarding. Now a card that discards by effect. [img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/a/a0/DarkWorldDealingsCP07-EN-R-UE.png[/img] "Then each player [b]discards 1 card[/b]." "Then", "and", or if the sentence ends with "discard 1 card". You see, this is an effect and not a cost, so if this card's effect was negated by something like Dark Bribe, you don't discard a card, since that part was negated along with the draw effect. How to tell the difference between an effect and cost. Here is an example of Fabled Raven's effect: "Once per turn, you can discard any number of cards from your hand [b]and[/b] increase the Level of this card by the number of discarded cards, until the End Phase." You can see, the "and" made a big difference, if it was changed to "to", then the discard would be a cost. Making it unplayable in Dark Worlds. Example from Lightning Vortex: "[b]Discard 1 card[/b]. Destroy all face-up monsters your opponent controls." Since it is the first sentence and does not include "to" or "and", it is considered a cost, making Fableds work, but not Dark Worlds. Hope this helps in understanding. [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 So Far we know it has an ATK increasing effect...XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 [quote name='-Dae-' timestamp='1302998125' post='5144156'] So Far we know it has an ATK increasing effect...XD [/quote] You know... if it turns all Darkworlds into a Shadow Ghoul(IE, +100 for each Darkworld in the Grave), that would be pretty interesting. Though I have a feeling it has some sort of lockdown effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1302999324' post='5144187'] You know... if it turns all Darkworlds into a Shadow Ghoul(IE, +100 for each Darkworld in the Grave), that would be pretty interesting. Though I have a feeling it has some sort of lockdown effect. [/quote] Watch it double the ATK of all DW on field each time a DW is discarded...XD lolno...XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 [quote name='-Dae-' timestamp='1302999446' post='5144192'] Watch it double the ATK of all DW on field each time a DW is discarded...XD [/quote] Despite the fact it would be awesome, Konami wouldn't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 [quote name='DeathSDelano' timestamp='1302997384' post='5144129'] Seems like it remember Konami logic is screwy [/quote] Yeah... Well... I don't like that... I guess I'll have to run both of them... maybe in the same deck But with this guy I kinda wanna run just mono-DW Now if only DarkWorld had their own Armaggedon Knight [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1302997650' post='5144142'] The Field Spell better be a Darkworld version of Safe Return. If not...KONAMI, I AM DISAPPOINT. [/quote] Card of Same Return? "When a monster is Special Summoned to the field from your Graveyard, you can draw 1 card." Do Zombie-Type Decks run this card?? DarkWorld could love a version of this card... I guess, but only if its Special Summon from the hand, not the Graveyard, but that would be SO OP'd Maybe if it was a OPT card... or maybe not for everycard, but rather just 1 draw for everytime cards are discarded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizuku Oikawa Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 [quote name='-Dae-' timestamp='1302999446' post='5144192'] Watch it double the ATK of all DW on field each time a DW is discarded...XD lolno...XD [/quote] I almost believed you until I read the bottom part of your post. Now I'm really anxious to see the effect. lol, my guess is that it increase by number of cards in hand first, then discards all cards in hand at the end of the turn. Once per turn, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 [quote name='Boss Z' timestamp='1302999709' post='5144205'] DarkWorld could love a version of this card [/quote] Thats the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1302999789' post='5144209'] Thats the point. [/quote] Clearly, lol But I am guessing it will have a discard effect... maybe like a Speed World of sorts But a Draw effect could be incredibly helpful... I just doubt we'll get that lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizuku Oikawa Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 I love how the discussion switched from Grapha to the Field Spell. But I do hope that the Field Spell can be used in other Decks, like Dragon Ravine, and how it can be used for other Dragon Decks, dumping Wyvern or Totem Dragon, and I heard stories on Necrovalley in other Decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 [quote name='Chihaya Kisaragi' timestamp='1303000983' post='5144246'] I love how the discussion switched from Grapha to the Field Spell. But I do hope that the Field Spell can be used in other Decks, like Dragon Ravine, and how it can be used for other Dragon Decks, dumping Wyvern or Totem Dragon, and I heard stories on Necrovalley in other Decks. [/quote] DRavine is best in Dragunities though... but I guess you could use it other places... Necro Valley is used with Malfeics for Trolling... I couldn't care if this is used for other Decks... If anything it only needs to be used in Fabled Decks... or Fabled World Decks... thats basically all it needs to be used for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 FABLEDWORLDS. Chawa > Sillva > This > Valkyrus > Draw > Sillva > This And thats not even a normal summon..................... EDIT: Its lvl 8, so its less amazing. Still <3 it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizuku Oikawa Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1303012689' post='5144602'] FABLEDWORLDS. Chawa > Sillva > This > Valkyrus > Draw > Sillva > This And thats not even a normal summon..................... EDIT: Its lvl 8, so its less amazing. Still <3 it. [/quote] Explain that combo for me please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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