burnpsy Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 [center][img]http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2919/114253.jpg[/img] [quote name='Persistent Bats']You can pay half of your Life Points to Special Summon this card from your Hand. If this card would be removed from the field, it gains 1000 ATK and DEF instead.[/quote][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 This card is OP'ed and needs a WAY better pic. So basically it cannot be destroyed or returned to hand or deck from the field. There is no way to get rid of it. 2/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 no, just no it's not a bat creature at all ability to gain 1000 at/def from either side's effect of removing it, that's broken as hell already 1/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 10/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 [quote name='Red W Mage No. 6-2-5' timestamp='1305419135' post='5208971'] 10/10 [/quote] Okay first off-SPAMMER!!! Second- You have got to be kidding me. Are you serious? This is the most OP'ed card I have seen in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 I'm [img]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/lmathieu11226/snooz-cereal.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted May 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 It is indeed possible to get rid of it. It's just not particularly easy. The most obvious, though most obscure method, is using Reverse Trap to prevent it from gaining ATK. Since it cannot gain ATK or DEF instead of being destroyed, it is destroyed. Another way, which involves cards everyone runs, is by using Effect Veiler (or the less common Skill Drain). Notably, both of these also bump it down to 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 yeah but Skill Drain basically pwns just about everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted May 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1305419955' post='5209010'] yeah but Skill Drain basically pwns just about everything [/quote] A lot of common monsters can basically ignore Skill Drain (Stardust Dragon, etc.). There are also a lot more which benefit from Skill Drain (Malefics, Barbaros, etc.). Still, Veiler is seen in just about every deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 yeah well Stardust is OPed even by synchro standards anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1305419955' post='5209010'] yeah but Skill Drain basically pwns just about everything [/quote] [color="#ffffff"]Vayu, Malefics, Stardust Dragon, Neos Alius, Penguins, Honest, Dark Soul, Gravekeeper's Recruiter, anything destroyed by battle related, Thunder King Rai-Oh, Cyber Dragon, D.D. Crow, Treeborn Frog. and I was ninja'd[/color] inorite? BUT YOU CAN USE BOOK OF MOON OR MAINSPRING ARMORED ZENMEISTER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted May 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Still doesn't change that most decks right not are maining Effect Vailer at 2, and siding Skill Drain if they're not hurt very hard by it. Though, I admit that this card could be balanced a bit better. Perhaps something like allowing Direct Attacks if it's the only monster, only being able to summon it once per Duel, not allowing it to be Normal Summoned, and changing the cost to 8000 LP? But then it'd be terrible. Also, the picture I used is only because I couldn't find an adequate picture of a bat that looked persistent enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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