Brushfire Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Original thread: [DELETED] Tribute thread: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/85920-tribute-to-haris/ Akira et al (2008) carried out a research study on the effects of conformity on people, even when on the internet. Do to this he made a thread telling participants to delete system32. There were two confederates in this experiment, Brushfire and Haris. Their results found that the majority of the participants would not conform to this behaviour due to the effect of majority influence, and informational social influence (more people said not to do it than to do so, and people such as Bloodrun said not to, mod status means they are more likely to listen to him). The experiment was good because it laid down a good foundation into conformity research over the internet and it was a lab experiment which means they could control the variables well. It was also good because it didn't have any cultural bias- being on the internet it included participants from all cultures. It was a poor experiment due to ethics- they deceived their participants by telling them that deleting system32 was a good thing when it actually wasn't. It also had a small sample size (only YCM General section users) and therefore cannot be generalised to the whole population. Also, as it was a lab experiment it lacked ecological validity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 This experiment actually branches off into another important topic - oppression. In the event that one fears a negative outcome, one might act in such a way that goes against their basic principles in order to avoid this outcome. As Brushfire discussed, most members chose not to delete system32 due to the fact that most other members declared that it was a bad thing to do. However this decision was of course heavily influenced by the moderator Bloodrun, which raises the question: is this the domino effect in action? The fear of being banned as a result of posting false/harmful information compelled other members to go with the flow. They did not conform to the standard set by Bloodrun because they believed that, as a moderator, he was a more reputable source, in fact it is far more likely that they simply feared a ban, hence oppression in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Half Vamp Riku Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 This seems pretty interesting, why not hold another one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 haha that was so random and funny xD you should be proud of yourselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Remember the thread...I'm a friend (?) of both haris and brush. But I'm not going to delete something on my computer cause somebody on YCM told me too, no matter how much evidence. Didn't Bloodrun go crazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Not an event to be proud of. And pretty meh. I can find far better studies that show this, than a childish thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted May 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 [quote name='Bless' timestamp='1306450699' post='5233918'] Not an event to be proud of. And pretty meh. I can find far better studies that show this, than a childish thread. [/quote] This > Moscovici Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 The people in the thread either ignored it or didn't play along for fear of being banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 [quote name='Brushfire' timestamp='1306453172' post='5234068'] This > Moscovici [/quote] Also Moskau > Moscovici Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted May 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 [quote name='Mikhail Nekem'evič Tal' timestamp='1306476017' post='5234844'] The people in the thread either ignored it or didn't play along for fear of being banned. [/quote] In the thread linked, yeah. The other one was deleted/hidden for the sole reason that people actually did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 System32 is needed for Windows to work. Are you guys trying to destroy everyone's computers? It's a terrible idea to delete your System32. Why would you listen to any moderator who tells you to delete a System file from your computer when it was working fine before? It doesn't make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='Expelsword' timestamp='1306533102' post='5236100'] System32 is needed for Windows to work. Are you guys trying to destroy everyone's computers? It's a terrible idea to delete your System32. Why would you listen to any moderator who tells you to delete a System file from your computer when it was working fine before? It doesn't make sense to me. [/quote] Read the thread before making a fool of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xazeon Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 [s]I DELETED MINE YEARS AGO, NOW MY COMPUTER IS 4X AS FAST. THANKS, HARIS![/s] I lol'd at the people who actually did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 [quote name='Akira' timestamp='1306578728' post='5237198'] Read the thread before making a fool of yourself. [/quote] So... you're testing how much people conform to a YCM User? It's more like a test of total ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 *Reads required reading thread* What happened to Aximil? I miss his war with JadenxAtemYaoi. I love YCM wars. It gives me an excuse to make popcorn and read the stupidity. I've never seen YCMaker lock a thread before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Aximil was a goblin, nothing of value was lost etc. You should have been around for mine and tea-leaf's threads :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frunk Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 [quote name='Bless' timestamp='1306450699' post='5233918']childish[/quote] Pot kettle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted May 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 [quote name='Akira' timestamp='1306655310' post='5239275'] Aximil was a goblin, nothing of value was lost etc. You should have been around for mine and tea-leaf's threads :3 [/quote] NEVER GONNA GIVE NEVER GONNA GIVE [quote name='Frunk' timestamp='1306672463' post='5239474'] Pot kettle. [/quote] Drama llama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Punk Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 > Get told to delete System32 > Own a Mac, or other computer not owned by microsoft. [color="#FFFFFF"]Except I don't really own a mac.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of All Spades Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 System 32 is too much space. I'll just delete this, and maybe my compute [FATAL ERROR HAS OCCURRED] Haris' massive delete prank was glorious, but so cruel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 [quote name='Brushfire' timestamp='1306431325' post='5233275'] Original thread: [DELETED] Tribute thread: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/85920-tribute-to-haris/ Akira et al (2008) carried out a research study on the effects of conformity on people, even when on the internet. Do to this he made a thread telling participants to delete system32. There were two confederates in this experiment, Brushfire and Haris. Their results found that the majority of the participants would not conform to this behaviour due to the effect of majority influence, and informational social influence (more people said not to do it than to do so, and people such as Bloodrun said not to, mod status means they are more likely to listen to him). The experiment was good because it laid down a good foundation into conformity research over the internet and it was a lab experiment which means they could control the variables well. It was also good because it didn't have any cultural bias- being on the internet it included participants from all cultures. It was a poor experiment due to ethics- they deceived their participants by telling them that deleting system32 was a good thing when it actually wasn't. It also had a small sample size (only YCM General section users) and therefore cannot be generalised to the whole population. Also, as it was a lab experiment it lacked ecological validity. [/quote] 1) Due to* 2) The experiment was not an experiment. There were no in/dependent variables stated. 3)If something were to lay down a "good foundation"(unclear criterion), then you must believe that since A) Christianity laid down a "good foundation" for Islam, then Christianity is good, must be true. 4) Just because the internet is accessible world wide does not mean that everyone on the internet is all over the world. You don't even quote the YCM memebership by country statistic. 5) You basically confirmed what everyone already knew that SPOILER ALERT: People are impressionable. 6) "therefore cannot be [sic] generalised to the whole population" - Congratulations, you admitted to yourself that this isn't conclusive at all and should be disregarded! [quote name='Akira' timestamp='1306431943' post='5233284'] This experiment actually branches off into another important topic - oppression. In the event that one fears a negative outcome, one might act in such a way that goes against their basic principles in order to avoid this outcome. As Brushfire discussed, most members chose not to delete system32 due to the fact that most other members declared that it was a bad thing to do. However this decision was of course heavily influenced by the moderator Bloodrun, which raises the question: is this the domino effect in action? The fear of being banned as a result of posting false/harmful information compelled other members to go with the flow. They did not conform to the standard set by Bloodrun because they believed that, as a moderator, he was a more reputable source, in fact it is far more likely that they simply feared a ban, hence oppression in action. [/quote] 1) How is this oppression? Bloodrun told people that system32 is an integral part of windows, and people should not delete it. Considering that trolling is a bannable offense, why would people troll in a thread being monitored by a moderator, knowing that the trolling would be unsuccessful? Are you hypothesizing that people using commonsense and wanting to stay on a site is "oppression." 2) Akira, I am highly disappointed in you. First, why would you team up with Brushfire again? That's pretty bad in and of itself(seeing as Brushfire is a tryhard failtroll. 3) Why would you be a failtroll by trying to make this "scientific" but failing by not using your common sense. Overall, I give Brushfire a -9001/10 for trolling He gets 3 points for making me post in the thread, but -9004 points for being Brushfire(although I am being very gracious with the grading). I give Akira a -4502/10 for trolling 3 Points for making me post in this thread, and -4502 for teaming up with Brushfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frunk Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 ^THANK YOU, BASED GOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirr Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 You didn't factor in that humans are inherently wary of accepting advice from strangers on the internet, especially if any destruction could result. Likewise, most people probably followe[s][/s]d the instruction of the moderator because it reinforced their original opinion that it wasn't safe. I'd bet that had the moderator told them it was safe, most would have tried to research it further in an attempt to validate their original suspicion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted June 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 [quote name='BehindTheMask' timestamp='1307420367' post='5262848'] 1) Due to* 2) The experiment was not an experiment. There were no in/dependent variables stated. 3)If something were to lay down a "good foundation"(unclear criterion), then you must believe that since A) Christianity laid down a "good foundation" for Islam, then Christianity is good, must be true. 4) Just because the internet is accessible world wide does not mean that everyone on the internet is all over the world. You don't even quote the YCM memebership by country statistic. 5) You basically confirmed what everyone already knew that SPOILER ALERT: People are impressionable. 6) "therefore cannot be [sic] generalised to the whole population" - Congratulations, you admitted to yourself that this isn't conclusive at all and should be disregarded! 1) How is this oppression? Bloodrun told people that system32 is an integral part of windows, and people should not delete it. Considering that trolling is a bannable offense, why would people troll in a thread being monitored by a moderator, knowing that the trolling would be unsuccessful? Are you hypothesizing that people using commonsense and wanting to stay on a site is "oppression." 2) Akira, I am highly disappointed in you. First, why would you team up with Brushfire again? That's pretty bad in and of itself(seeing as Brushfire is a tryhard failtroll. 3) Why would you be a failtroll by trying to make this "scientific" but failing by not using your common sense. Overall, I give Brushfire a -9001/10 for trolling He gets 3 points for making me post in the thread, but -9004 points for being Brushfire(although I am being very gracious with the grading). I give Akira a -4502/10 for trolling 3 Points for making me post in this thread, and -4502 for teaming up with Brushfire. [/quote] Wanna know something? I actually said from the very start that I wanted you to reply to this thread. :3 Ask Akira. I deserve extra brownie points. Anyway, that's not a bad reply. Especially considering it was never my intention to troll, nice assumption you made there. This was never meant to be taken seriously either, I'm genuinely surprised at the people that did. Also "team up" is a bit much. He literally just replied. You're taking things too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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