TheBigCheese Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 To all at YCM Although this card was inspired by pop culture (to be precise The Legend of Zelda series) I have been informed that it could still be a candidate for pop-culture too, as it does not specifically target any other Zelda cards and therefore is able to fit seamlessly into the game itself as a realistic card. Not only this, but the theme of the card itself "Majora's Nightmare" does not [b]EVER [/b]feature in any of the Zelda games and is merely speculation on the part of Zelda fans. It is for those reasons that I have posted this card here, however a mod tells me to remove it I will graciously do so. I would appreciate any form of constructive criticism/ideas/queries as I am trying to improve as a card maker and I need your input to do so. Thank you, here is the card: [center][img]http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1726/347464a.jpg[/img][/center] [center]As long as you control this face-up card, flip your Graveyard face-down. Pay 50 x every card in your Graveyard during your Standby Phase, if you do not, destroy this card. During your Draw Phase, instead of drawing from your Deck, you can send 2 cards from the top of your Deck to the Graveyard to shuffle your Graveyard and draw 1 card from it.[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyng's Old Account Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Doesn't this belong in Pop Culture? I mean, this card is obviously based on Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Duelist Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote=Kyng of Ice]Doesn't this belong in Pop Culture? I mean, this card is obviously based on Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask.[/quote] I've seen a lot of cards here with pictures from games. It's an interesting card, but I would consider adding you need to have a minimum amount of monsters in your Graveyard to activate this card, to prevent abusing cards like Sangan, Goblin Zombie,... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigCheese Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='Kyng of Ice' timestamp='1307121203' post='5251244'] Doesn't this belong in Pop Culture? I mean, this card is obviously based on Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. [/quote] I have been wrestling with the idea that this is most likely Pop Culture and I have looked at the agrgument from both sides. If you check my original post you can see my arguments for putting this in the Realistic Cards section, however in short they are this: -This could easily fit into a real life deck. -This card is based on a facet of a game which doesn't exist. (Majora's Nightmare is simply fan speculation) As I said though before I just want to get this card some exposure in order to hone my skills. Disregarding wether you thought that this was Pop Culture or Realistic what did you think of it?[quote name='Random Duelist' timestamp='1307121506' post='5251257'] I've seen a lot of cards here with pictures from games. It's an interesting card, but I would consider adding you need to have a minimum amount of monsters in your Graveyard to activate this card, to prevent abusing cards like Sangan, Goblin Zombie,... [/quote] I thought about that but with every time you use this card, your Graveyard grows larger, your will have to pay more Life Points and with each time you use the effect the chance of getting such abusable cards will become less and less. However you may be spot on with your analysis so I will leave it as it is until I see what other users have to say. Thanks for the review it was helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyng's Old Account Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Well I think there needs to be an OCG Fix, but this card is so unique I can't fix it myself... Here is my attempt (don't use it untill it is clarified) [i]As long as you control this face-up card, flip your Graveyard face-down. During you Stand-By Phase, pay Life Points equal to the number of cars in your Graveyard x100. If not, destroy this card. During your Draw Phase, instead of drawing from your Deck, you can send 2 cards from the top of your Deck to the Graveyard, then shuffle your Graveyard and draw 1 card from it.[/i] I don't see it being used much because if you keep it on the field for a while you could be paying unholy amounts of Life Points. It doesn't protect your Grave from cards like Monster Reborn and this way you could lose strong cards without even knowing it. However, this card is very original and seeing as you aren't forced into paying it can't be that reckless. Overall I think that it is a decent card, but I couldn't give it more than a 7/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigCheese Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='Kyng of Ice' timestamp='1307128693' post='5251457'] Well I think there needs to be an OCG Fix, but this card is so unique I can't fix it myself... Here is my attempt (don't use it untill it is clarified) [i]As long as you control this face-up card, flip your Graveyard face-down. During you Stand-By Phase, pay Life Points equal to the number of cars in your Graveyard x100. If not, destroy this card. During your Draw Phase, instead of drawing from your Deck, you can send 2 cards from the top of your Deck to the Graveyard, then shuffle your Graveyard and draw 1 card from it.[/i] I don't see it being used much because if you keep it on the field for a while you could be paying unholy amounts of Life Points. It doesn't protect your Grave from cards like Monster Reborn and this way you could lose strong cards without even knowing it. However, this card is very original and seeing as you aren't forced into paying it can't be that reckless. Overall I think that it is a decent card, but I couldn't give it more than a 7/10. [/quote] Admittedly it is a very risky card, but in times of need I do believe risks would need to be taken. You pointed a number a number of things about the card: "It doesn't protect your Grave from cards like Monster Reborn" - This card has nothing to do with Monster Reborn. On a general note you are never protected from monster reborn anyway and I didn't want this card to have anything to do with Monster Reborn "This way you could lose strong cards without even knowing it" - This card is slightly risky so you may have to risk losing a strong card to fish a powerful card from yoru graveyard. Thanks for the feedback, as I have said before I will see what everyone else has to say before I start looking at revising it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 too much LP pay to keep it on very long I would have made it like 50 per card instead to last it longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigCheese Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1307136226' post='5251788'] too much LP pay to keep it on very long I would have made it like 50 per card instead to last it longer [/quote] I was toying with that idea but I thought at the time that 100 may be fairer. However I feel that you may be correct and I probably will change it to 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamperCarl00 Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Meh, I'm not sure I'd actually use something like this for two reasons a) There's a very expensive cost that grows each turn and would make it impossible to play in later turns without sacrificing a LOT of life points b ) You're still only getting one card, and if you're using it early in the duel when it'd be most effective then you would more than likely recieve a card that you would have gotten anyway by drawing normally. It may actually go well with cards that skip your standby phase though, but I would probably only use it once and in comparison I'd rather use a different card that doesn't burn my deck and my life points simultaneously. That said though, it's a cool looking card and a very unique idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [img]http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/077/244/original/you_shouldn__t_have_done_that___by_kiss_da_grizzums-d30kv5x.jpg?1287054607[/img] I like the card... but it is way too costly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigCheese Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='CamperCarl00' timestamp='1307138706' post='5251893'] Meh, I'm not sure I'd actually use something like this for two reasons a) There's a very expensive cost that grows each turn and would make it impossible to play in later turns without sacrificing a LOT of life points b ) You're still only getting one card, and if you're using it early in the duel when it'd be most effective then you would more than likely recieve a card that you would have gotten anyway by drawing normally. It may actually go well with cards that skip your standby phase though, but I would probably only use it once and in comparison I'd rather use a different card that doesn't burn my deck and my life points simultaneously. That said though, it's a cool looking card and a very unique idea. [/quote] Thanks that was helpful. Be mindful of the fact that you DONT have to use the effect but you do have to pay the life points per turn. However I am going to reduce it from 100 to 50 do you think that would make it fairer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momobeast Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Nice effect and the card I would give it 10/10!Also the effect is very unique. Check out my new deck http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/251804-mythical-beasts-im-pretty-sure-you-wont-be-dissapointed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigCheese Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1307136226' post='5251788'] too much LP pay to keep it on very long I would have made it like 50 per card instead to last it longer [/quote] Thanks for the imput, I have actually changed it to 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 50 Life points for every card in the graveyard ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamperCarl00 Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='TheBigCheese' timestamp='1307140075' post='5251945'] Thanks that was helpful. Be mindful of the fact that you DONT have to use the effect but you do have to pay the life points per turn. However I am going to reduce it from 100 to 50 do you think that would make it fairer? [/quote] It would definitely make it actually usable and more intriguing since more options open up with the reduced cost which is a lot more realistic. I also did notice that you could use the card once and not have to pay anything, which is why I stated earlier that that's how I'd probably use it if I did decide to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigCheese Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='Herman The German' timestamp='1307142871' post='5252038'] rock type not "STONE" [/quote] Was that spam? What do you mean by "rock type not "STONE" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='TheBigCheese' timestamp='1307143510' post='5252065'] Was that spam? What do you mean by "rock type not "STONE" [/quote] anthor legend of zelda set some one made a gorgon card and i made a mistake i edit what ive said sorry for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigCheese Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='Herman The German' timestamp='1307143766' post='5252078'] anthor legend of zelda set some one made a gorgon card and i made a mistake i edit what ive said sorry for that [/quote] So what do you think of mine then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='TheBigCheese' timestamp='1307144530' post='5252116'] So what do you think of mine then? [/quote] i like the concept its like "convulsion of nature" spell card just done in reverse lol please check out blood lusting zombies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigCheese Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 [quote name='Herman The German' timestamp='1307145133' post='5252138'] i like the concept its like "convulsion of nature" spell card just done in reverse lol please check out blood lusting zombies [/quote] It's got a convulsion of nature element within it, but it runs deeper than that I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 you sort of "opposite it" and yes it does because alot of cards/ card effect reloves around the graveyard so yes this can be quite playabe and usefull with all kinds of different tatics can be used with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 [quote name='TheBigCheese' timestamp='1307138004' post='5251868'] I was toying with that idea but I thought at the time that 100 may be fairer. However I feel that you may be correct and I probably will change it to 50 [/quote] in all honesty, how long DO you expect this card to last on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigCheese Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1307173967' post='5253258'] in all honesty, how long DO you expect this card to last on the field? [/quote] As long as the player wants it to last. You have the option to not pay the Life Points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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