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[quote name='Byakuya Kuchiki' timestamp='1307373519' post='5260732']
Grandiloquence: The act of saying lengthy, or intelligent words or terms, in order to appear pompous, bombastic, or in similar terms, intelligent. = This thread.
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They should be pretty common words to anyone over 13.
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[quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1307398346' post='5261747']
I doubt it since I was not homeschooled and am religeous
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Ah, but being religious himself, his parents or guardians are very likely religious also. Two religious, biased people home-schooling a child?
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[quote name='Mikhail Nekem'evič Tal' timestamp='1307398448' post='5261753']
Ah, but being religious himself, his parents or guardians are very likely religious also. Two religious, biased people home-schooling a child?
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Aww... I love you too. <3

Look, homeschooling just really sucks when it comes to science because a text book only goes so far. That, and I never even took Chemistry. I'll take Physics in a few years, and it should be fun, but until then I'll have to settle with people explaining things to me.

Maybe some day I'll take some remedial Biology or Chemistry courses to pick up what I missed, but for now, being lazy is way too much fun.
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Mikhail obviously makes a great point, and his point is what I was referring to when I stated:

[i]Did you honestly think I didn't have a smart-ass comment to make about this?[/i]

I find it quite odd that you are extremely religious, extremely conservative in your political beliefs, and you also have very little knowledge of the sciences. Am I implying that you are religious because of this lack of knowledge. But if you think about it, you fit the stereotypical "religious person refusing to accept facts", and your posts on YCM are quite evident of that stereotype.

no offense, love <3
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[quote name='Dark' timestamp='1307409256' post='5262325']
I find it quite odd that you are extremely religious, extremely conservative in your political beliefs, and you also have very little knowledge of the sciences. Am I implying that you are religious because of this lack of knowledge. But if you think about it, you fit the stereotypical "religious person refusing to accept facts", and your posts on YCM are quite evident of that stereotype.
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I'm probably going to regret this, but what the hell...

[i]extremely religious[/i]
If you are connecting this with theism, then yes, but I have never actually gone out of my way to impose my faith on another person before, regardless of what conclusions you come up with.

[i]extremely conservative[/i]
Who can't read now? I have a few political stances that would be considered conservative, and I'm an extremist now? Whatever you say Dark. :lol:

[i]implying that you are religious because of this lack of knowledge[/i]
This sentence seems like it needs a question mark. Anyway, it's not my fault if science isn't my strong point in school, and I did say that I would like to make up for those missed classes.


Good job turning a random thread about school into a religious debate due to your insatiable desire to stalk me and have my babies. <3 (Which I would not let you abort because of my crazy-ass political views. :P)

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[quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1307406377' post='5262202']
Aww... I love you too. <3

Look, homeschooling just really sucks when it comes to science because a text book only goes so far. That, and I never even took Chemistry. I'll take Physics in a few years, and it should be fun, but until then I'll have to settle with people explaining things to me.

Maybe some day I'll take some remedial Biology or Chemistry courses to pick up what I missed, but for now, being lazy is way too much fun.
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You live in America, I take it? The Science textbooks in America are awful. They are biased and often exclude Darwin's work. As your parents (or a hired tutor, perhaps) probably home-school you, they have complete control over what you learn and what you don't. Maybe they did teach you evolution, but if they did they probably did so in inverted commas. I know what it is like, I went to a Catholic Primary School and a Catholic Secondary School. They taught evolution with a pinch of salt, they explained that it is still a [i]theory[/i], still entirely [i]unproven[/i], and that there is [i]lots of evidence[/i] against it. They spent about five minutes discussing it before doing two whole lessons on "Intelligent Design" (i.e. Religion masquerading as Science, or Pseudoscience). That was in Secondary School. When I was little, the class teachers told my tiny, pliable little mind that God created all creatures great and small in seven days, that Adam and Eve were the first humans and that we were descended from them (in Secondary School, my Religious Studies teacher [an ex-nun] told me that Adam and Eve were metaphorical representations of the Tribes of Israel, a "theological truth", so there was even conflict between teachings). One child in my class asked the famous "Who did Cain and Abel have sex with to make more humans?" question. He was sent out of the room and punished for disobedience. I fervently believed this for years of my life until I decided to actually read Darwin, to read the Bible, to look up Intelligent Design and Creationism and all that jazz.

That's a tangent, but the point is that your religious parents used home-schooling to indoctrinate you to their beliefs. They don't allow you to weigh out the options, to look at the facts of both points, to understand the meaning of Science and the meaning of Fairy Tales.
[quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1307417316' post='5262711']
I'm probably going to regret this, but what the hell...

[i]extremely religious[/i]
If you are connecting this with theism, then yes, but I have never actually gone out of my way to impose my faith on another person before, regardless of what conclusions you come up with. [b]He didn't say that you imposed your beliefs on others, nor did he imply it. He called you "extremely religious", which I imagine you should take as a complement.[/b]

[i]extremely conservative[/i]
Who can't read now? I have a few political stances that would be considered conservative, and I'm an extremist now? Whatever you say Dark. :lol: [b]"Extremely conservative" and "extremist conservative" are entirely different things. "Extremist" is a loaded word, one that brings up images of terrorism and collapsing skyscrapers and men with beards shouting "death to the West". "Extremely" is a synonym for "very", for "passionately" in this context.[/b]

[i]implying that you are religious because of this lack of knowledge[/i]
This sentence seems like it needs a question mark. [b]It does.[/b] Anyway, it's not my fault if science isn't my strong point in school [b]It isn't because you aren't taught Science the way normal children are, you are taught a heavily, selectively edited Ned Flanders version.[/b], and I did say that I would like to make up for those missed classes.
[b]I hope to God (if you'll excuse my violation of "Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain") that you do it properly.[/b]

Good job turning a random thread about school into a religious debate due to your insatiable desire to stalk me and have my babies. <3 (Which I would not let you abort because of my crazy-ass political views. :P) [b]That's actually quite funny.[/b]
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Mikhail covered my responses, although he forgot to add, "Dark would much rather miss out on a question mark than be retarded like you" or something to that effect.

[quote name='Catman25' timestamp='1307472467' post='5264053']
I hated titration because we had to get the solution an exact shade of pink. Another half a drop would make it too dark. :3
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...isn't that the point? Isn't that the reason why everyone hates titration? I couldn't think of any other reason why someone would hate it, except maybe because it takes a long time, but that's tied in with your comment.
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[quote name='Mikhail Nekem'evič Tal' timestamp='1307481484' post='5264566']
You live in America, I take it? The Science textbooks in America are awful. They are biased and often exclude Darwin's work. As your parents (or a hired tutor, perhaps) probably home-school you, they have complete control over what you learn and what you don't. Maybe they did teach you evolution, but if they did they probably did so in inverted commas. I know what it is like, I went to a Catholic Primary School and a Catholic Secondary School. They taught evolution with a pinch of salt, they explained that it is still a [i]theory[/i], still entirely [i]unproven[/i], and that there is [i]lots of evidence[/i] against it. They spent about five minutes discussing it before doing two whole lessons on "Intelligent Design" (i.e. Religion masquerading as Science, or Pseudoscience). That was in Secondary School. When I was little, the class teachers told my tiny, pliable little mind that God created all creatures great and small in seven days, that Adam and Eve were the first humans and that we were descended from them (in Secondary School, my Religious Studies teacher [an ex-nun] told me that Adam and Eve were metaphorical representations of the Tribes of Israel, a "theological truth", so there was even conflict between teachings). One child in my class asked the famous "Who did Cain and Abel have sex with to make more humans?" question. He was sent out of the room and punished for disobedience. I fervently believed this for years of my life until I decided to actually read Darwin, to read the Bible, to look up Intelligent Design and Creationism and all that jazz.

That's a tangent, but the point is that your religious parents used home-schooling to indoctrinate you to their beliefs. They don't allow you to weigh out the options, to look at the facts of both points, to understand the meaning of Science and the meaning of Fairy Tales.
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How kind of you to make assumptions about my parents based on what you've learned about religion from growing up Catholic. Just because you were not given a choice doesn't mean I wasn't. I find it odd that you think it's appalling when parents tell their kids that "X = Y" or whatever, but when you tell me that "X = Z" it's totally fine. I find it usually helps to think critically, to think from an outside perspective no matter how much you are sure of what you believe.

Also, not that I expect you to believe me, but my father constantly tells me to think for myself and to not go along with something just because he does. And just to clear up any misconceptions, he's actually a Democrat.

My point is, you're pretty much telling me that all children should be taught that theism/deism is bad and should be dismissed as nonsense, which hardly any different than the opposite.

Also, science isn't limited to whether evolution happened exactly as Darwin described or not. A good majority of it is how the world works right now, which usually doesn't differ between belief systems. What my biology text book taught was probably based on facts for the most part, (how the heart works, ect). What I meant in my original post was that science is something that needs more than just a textbook, unlike math, so it's a weak point of mine. I never had access to a proper lab or tools for experiments. That being said, there were a few absolutely cringe-inducing paragraphs about abortion in my health text book.

But most importantly, science bores me. I enjoy math and English a good deal more. I fail to see what's inherently wrong with that.

There is one more thing I forgot. I don't actually like the fact that I was homeschooled, I would have preferred to go to a Public School for at the very least my High-school years. In fact, I think it's stupid to homeschool past Elementary unless the one teaching is a professional teacher and you have access to the proper resources. It's like this.

In the early grades, the public education system does a horrendous job (in America anyway.) One-on-one time with a child can give them a huge head-start academically. In the later years of school, a homechool education will be lacking however, so it's best to go with an actual school once the child is in Middle/High School.

PS: Although you're making some disturbing assumptions about me and my life, you seem to at least be more polite and well-spoken the Dark. Good job!
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[quote name='Byakuya Kuchiki' timestamp='1307373519' post='5260732']
Grandiloquence: The act of saying lengthy, or intelligent words or terms, in order to appear pompous, bombastic, or in similar terms, intelligent. = This thread.
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Did you honestly just open a thread on chemistry and complain about people using big words? That's like walking into a Hot Topic and telling customers their clothes look stupid.

[quote name='Mikhail Nekem'evič Tal' timestamp='1307481484' post='5264566']
You live in America, I take it? [B]You don't, I take it.[/b]The Science textbooks in America are awful. They are biased and often exclude Darwin's work.[b]I live in the southeastern United States and received unbiased lessons on Darwin and his theory of evolution starting in grade six. Sounds like you might be talking out of your ass.[/b] As your parents (or a hired tutor, perhaps) probably home-school you, they have complete control over what you learn and what you don't.[b]Evidently not. Otherwise, you wouldn't be teaching him that America is inferior to the rest of the world and that he's a moron for being religious right now.[/b] Maybe they did teach you evolution, but if they did they probably did so in inverted commas.[b]Assuming his parents are unintelligent or intentionally deceptive because they're religious.[/b] I know what it is like, I went to a Catholic Primary School and a Catholic Secondary School. They taught evolution with a pinch of salt, they explained that it is still a [i]theory[/i], still entirely [i]unproven[/i], and that there is [i]lots of evidence[/i] against it. They spent about five minutes discussing it before doing two whole lessons on "Intelligent Design" (i.e. Religion masquerading as Science, or Pseudoscience).[b]Probably because you were in a Catholic school, Einstein.[/b] That was in Secondary School. When I was little, the class teachers told my tiny, pliable little mind that God created all creatures great and small in seven days, that Adam and Eve were the first humans and that we were descended from them (in Secondary School, my Religious Studies teacher [an ex-nun] told me that Adam and Eve were metaphorical representations of the Tribes of Israel, a "theological truth", so there was even conflict between teachings). One child in my class asked the famous "Who did Cain and Abel have sex with to make more humans?" question. He was sent out of the room and punished for disobedience.[b]See last sarcastic insult. Also, I love it when people make an entire case from one incident in their life.[/b] I fervently believed this for years of my life until I decided to actually read Darwin, to read the Bible, to look up Intelligent Design and Creationism and all that jazz.

That's a tangent, but the point is that your religious parents used home-schooling to indoctrinate you to their beliefs.[b]"Because of my bad experience in a Catholic School, your parents are indoctrinating you into the machine that is Christianity"[/b] They don't allow you to weigh out the options, to look at the facts of both points, to understand the meaning of Science and the meaning of Fairy Tales. [B]Says the stranger on the internet talking to their son.[/b]
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I like this new guy. =)

[quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1307514238' post='5266176']
Protip: Avoid arguements with Mikhail and Dark. It usually doesn't end until a mod comes around and locks the topic.
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That's a tip I should really try harder to follow, but I was not the one who started it. I guess I'll just to start ignoring them.
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[quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1307504723' post='5265943']
You're supposed to nuetralize an acid by pouring it into the base, not the other way around iirc.
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You can neutralize in either direction, but scientists prefer neutralizing acids with bases. Titration stops when the solution turns light pink, meaning you start out with an acid and you pour base until it equals out. If you titrated the other way, you'd be looking for the color to vanish, which imo is a lot harder to do.

No matter which way you pour, they are still going to neutralize. Not to mention that both acids and bases can be caustic, so it honestly doesn't matter if you consider the "splash" effect.

[quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1307514238' post='5266176']
Protip: Avoid arguements with Mikhail and Dark. It usually doesn't end until a mod comes around and locks the topic.
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I CANNOT TRUTHFULLY DISAGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT.

[quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1307540459' post='5266659']
By not replying back.
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You suck. One troll victim dead. You better help me find a new one. <___<

[i]I like this new guy. =)[/i]

Why, because he fights your battles for you because you are too unintelligent to come up with your own logical arguments?

I like the new guy because he knows what he's talking about unlike a certain someone in this thread that also likes the new guy.
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[quote name='J-Max' timestamp='1307502515' post='5265870']
Why not? I thought that main Priority was to Neutralize the Burn?
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Bases mess up the skin more. I think you're supposed to use water or something. I can't remember. I haven't taken high school chemistry since 2006.
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[quote name='Dark' timestamp='1307563254' post='5267438']
You suck. One troll victim dead. You better help me find a new one. <___<
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He's like a broken rape victim, except for trolling. You've used him way too much man. Find a new victim yourself.

Though if he continues to argue against you, I won't butt in again.
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