Laskeri - Unmei no Senshi Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY06IgyN_RM[/media] [img]http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j338/Laskeri/RavarudekU.png[/img] [img]http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j338/Laskeri/LEU.png[/img] 3 Laval Miller 3 Laval's Magma Artillery 3 Tender of the Laval Volcano 2 Laval Lady of the Burning Lake 2 Laval Lancelord 2 Boost Warrior 1 Laval Forest Sprite 16 3 Rekindling 3 Upstart Goblin 2 Mystical Space Typhoon 2 Instant Fusion 1 Reinforcement of the Army 1 One For One 1 Foolish Burial 1 Pot of Avarice 1 Mind Control 1 Giant Trunade 1 Dark Hole 1 Monster Reborn 18 2 Solemn Warning 1 Solemn Judgment 1 Quickening of the Flame Swirl (not really that useful) 1 Mirror Force 1 Torrential Tribute 6 2 Vermillion Sparrow 2 T.G. Hyper Librarian 2 Formula Synchron 1 Shooting Quasar Dragon 1 Shooting Star Dragon 1 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier 1 Stardust Dragon 1 Scrap Dragon 1 Ancient Flamvell Deity 1 Lavalval Dragoon 1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier 1 Laval Twinslayer 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 How does this work for you?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas the Flame Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 That looks like a good deck. Nice job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laskeri - Unmei no Senshi Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Lucksacks like a boss. End up milling half my deck, so I usually end up lucksacking stuff like Mind Control and Monster Reborn/Rekindling all the time. Summons SQD pretty easily with the right set up (I need Boost Warrior in hand to do it, though, which is kind of a problem) Set Miller, end they attack into miller send Magma Artillery and Tender Tender's effect, Tender's effect, Tender's effect into another Magma Artillery they end Rekindling special summon 3 Tender and 2 Magma Artillery Synchro Hyper Librarian Synchro Hyper Librarian, draw 1 Special Summon Boost Warrior from hand Synchro Formula, draw 3 Synchro Shooting Quasar Dragon I'll probably neg Quickening of the Flame Swirl for a Gorz. EDIT: Instant Fusion helps make Dragoon w/Tender in hand, which makes Tenders in deck live first turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 [quote]Not quite. That relied on the wikia's poor translations. Tender asks that its sending must occur at a time where a non-Tender Laval is already in the Grave - for Miller this will almost never be a problem; but Miller by all rights isn't the only way Tender will be activating when we play games. Consider Tender+Whatever being destroyed by Dark Hole while no Lavals are in the Grave; Tender would not activate here, because there isn't a Laval waiting in the Grave beforehand. As it was translated on the wikia, Miller wasn't necessary to send all 3 Tenders to the Grave; only one Tender was, and it'd send the other two, and the last Tender would send a fourth card. Miller is more essential to you than planned.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Miller = Win But not the way you are doing it... Miller destroyed -> Laval Lady of the Burning Lake, 3x Tender, Laval Lancelord... Rekindling -> RND -> WIN You're combo is rather interestin though, but Boost Warrior isn't really that good, And I personally would prefer the Deck I had help from Dae on Making... which will be up soon after some personal testing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laskeri - Unmei no Senshi Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 [quote name='∞ Skiel ∞' timestamp='1308590553' post='5297705'] Miller = Win But not the way you are doing it... Miller destroyed -> Laval Lady of the Burning Lake, 3x Tender, Laval Lancelord... Rekindling -> RND -> WIN You're combo is rather interestin though, but Boost Warrior isn't really that good, And I personally would prefer the Deck I had help from Dae on Making... which will be up soon after some personal testing... [/quote] That combo could work, too. (and probably be more consistent, lol) so: -1 Boost Warrior (should one to make first turn Formula?) -1 Laval's Magma Artillery -1 Reinforcement of the Army +1 Tragoedia +1 Morphing Jar +1 Laval Lady of the Burning Lake -1 Formula -1 Quasar +1 RND +1 RDA sound good? @ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＳＩＲＩＳ: IDGI? so you're saying that I can't send another Laval first with Miller's effect, and then Tender, and then Tender's effect activates, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcher boyz Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 play blazing dust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laskeri - Unmei no Senshi Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I don't like removing all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcher boyz Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Play rftdd and alchemists then? It's sort of another 3 copies of Rekindling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laskeri - Unmei no Senshi Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Yeah, but RFtDD can get Trap Stunned/Seven Tools'd and I'd play Laval Cannoneer before Alchemist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 [quote name='Televi-Kun' timestamp='1308591900' post='5297758'] @ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＳＩＲＩＳ: IDGI? so you're saying that I can't send another Laval first with Miller's effect, and then Tender, and then Tender's effect activates, etc.? [/quote] Basically. Also play Debris Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laskeri - Unmei no Senshi Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 [quote name='ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＳＩＲＩＳ' timestamp='1308596646' post='5298038'] Basically. Also play Debris Dragon. [/quote] wait... Sending random Laval + Tender with Miller, it activates Tender on WC11, so...? so maindeck now looks like 3 Laval Miller 3 Tender of the Laval Volcano 3 Laval Lady of the Burning Lake 2 Laval Lancelord 2 Laval's Magma Artillery 1 Laval Forest Sprite 1 Debris Dragon 1 Morphing Jar 1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness 1 Tragoedia 18 3 Rekindling 3 Upstart Goblin 2 Instant Fusion 2 Mystical Space Typhoon 1 One For One 1 Foolish Burial 1 Pot of Avarice 1 Mind Control 1 Giant Trunade 1 Dark Hole 1 Monster Reborn 17 2 Solemn Warning 1 Solemn Judgment 1 Mirror Force 1 Torrential Tribute 5 2 Vermillion Sparrow 2 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier 2 Black Rose Dragon 2 Lavalval Dragoon 2 T.G. Hyper Librarian 1 Red Nova Dragon 1 Stardust Dragon 1 Red Dragon Archfiend 1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier 1 Laval Twinslayer 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Aklys activates in so many ways it shouldn't on WC11 too, but it's ruled not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 [quote name='ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＳＩＲＩＳ' timestamp='1308610984' post='5298839'] Aklys activates in so many ways it shouldn't on WC11 too, but it's ruled not to. [/quote] So if u wanted to dump 5 with miller how would u do it? Chose miller, go through that and then a 2nd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Just have a Laval in your gy beforehand, and play more milling cards like Ryko, Trooper, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 You're setting him up for Laval200... or so it would seem, Lol Laval Can be played without numerous mill cards, I personally prefer them without... but depending on how far you go one way or the other, you can really change your consistancy... there is a nice bell curve kind of feature to them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Excuse me, but where did you get this information? I searched a lot, but I wasn't able to find rulings for Tender. Furthermore, in the [b]Official Video Game[/b] it works like that, with a character (Tender herself) actually using this strategy; So, could you say where have you seen that I can't send 1 Tender to the grave with another and then use the new one's effect? If the flavour text says that the only thing you need to actiavte this effect is having at least one different Laval in your grave when Tender is sent there, Laval Miller should count and allow the activation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Pharaoh Atem. he knows his s*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Can Osiris just post his Laval 200? I want to see how it compares, but don't want to go through the pages. ='[ [size="1"](You can also post a Z-ONE image)[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 20 Monsters 3 Laval Miller 3 Laval Lancelord 3 Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter 3 Tender of the Laval Volcano 2 Card Trooper 2 Debris Dragon 1 Laval Forest Sprite 1 Laval Lady of the Burning Lake 1 Glow-Up Bulb 1 Dandylion 17 Spells 3 Gold Sarcophagus 3 Rekindling 2 Pot of Greederosity 2 Pot of Avarice 2 Mystical Space Typhoon 1 Book of Moon 1 Monster Reborn 1 Dark Hole 1 Giant Trunade 1 Foolish Burial 3 Traps 3 Royal Decree It's an old build, and I'd play a solid trap lineup now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 [quote name='ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＳＩＲＩＳ' timestamp='1309974912' post='5332200'] 20 Monsters 3 Laval Miller 3 Laval Lancelord 3 Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter 3 Tender of the Laval Volcano 2 Card Trooper 2 Debris Dragon 1 Laval Forest Sprite 1 Laval Lady of the Burning Lake 1 Glow-Up Bulb 1 Dandylion 17 Spells 3 Gold Sarcophagus 3 Rekindling 2 Pot of Greederosity 2 Pot of Avarice 2 Mystical Space Typhoon 1 Book of Moon 1 Monster Reborn 1 Dark Hole 1 Giant Trunade 1 Foolish Burial 3 Traps 3 Royal Decree It's an old build, and I'd play a solid trap lineup now. [/quote] But how are you going to make room for them? I mean, all Spells seem useful to me. Also, I wonder if it's really worth using two copies of Debris, since the only thing you can Synchro Summon with it would be Black Rose Dragon... and maybe Trishula. After reading the entire topic, I noticed your post about Aklys. I'm almost sure I activated its effect once when the monster it was equipped to was removed for Leyvaten. Rules say that can't occur. So it's really not that reliable what Video Games show. That's a shame. I expect Laval Decks are still useable after that. But I still don't understand how that works. I can send 1 Tender to Grave with my Miller, then send another with the first's effect, but not a third? Your first post concerning the topic didn't quite make clear hot was it. And if you can't send another Tender with the first one, when can I use her effect? Also, who is Pharaoh Atem? (I wonder why the Wikia doesn't have the rulings for Tender) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 [quote name='Pchi' timestamp='1310085570' post='5336784'] Also, who is Pharaoh Atem? [/quote] WTF [img]http://quizilla.teennick.com/user_images/H/Hatome-chan/1122087391_okbackatem.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 I mean the person with the [b]NICKNAME [/b]Pharaoh Atem, who Osiris mentioned as the source of Tender's rulings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 [quote name='Pchi' timestamp='1310085570' post='5336784'] Also, who is Pharaoh Atem? [/quote] He's probably one of the best people to go to for rulings, especially since he reads Japanese and can interpret OCG text to make more accurate rulings. He's on Pojo iirc and he's a mod on DN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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