Icy Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 ITT: Sausage McMuffins are comparable to Heroin. ... What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smesh Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 [quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1308759411' post='5302939'] ITT: Sausage McMuffins are comparable to Heroin. ... What? [/quote] Preposterous only the McGriddles have that effect. But like Icy said, good in moderation. I thought that was just common sense. O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirr Posted June 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 [quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1308759411' post='5302939'] ITT: Sausage McMuffins are comparable to Heroin. ... What? [/quote] They are. Scientifically speaking, of course. Then again, science doesn't know much. [quote name='Opalmoon' timestamp='1308746943' post='5302552'] Cigarettes and alcohol and food that isn't 100% certified organic and wholesome too. [B]Cigarettes and alcohol aren't marketed to children, and food doesn't have to be organic to provide proper nourishment. [/b] Meh, I don't get why people usually think of McDonald's when it comes to fast food. [B]It's the largest fast food organization.[/b] I have a very good fast food/take-away Indian snack and a Chinese snack in my city and they're both awesome. Like you said, if you eat McDonald's everyday, then it might result in obesity or death, but it won't happen to everyone who goes there once in a while. [B]This applies to cocaine and heroin and cigarettes, too.[/b] In terms of the whole health discussions...it's shocking sometimes, but I don't understand why some newspaper articles, reports etc. try to look like they're sooo concerned with our youth's health while they probably aren't. The backside of having a high obesity rate in a society is that you see obese people and it would be really bad if there wasn't enough food on earth, but with all the waste we're throwing away, I don't think we do. It's more a matter of distribution. Logically thinking...it isn't that horrible actually because we have too many people on this planet anyway. [B]Then perhaps we should downgrade medicine and do a better job of killing people that are already on their way out instead of crippling the youth.[/b] But don't quote me on that, that's not my opinion and trust me, I'm not going to look away when someone has cancer and just say "blergh, better that humanity disappears anyway". But the whole concern looks either like huge altruism or concern trolling to me, because it isn't going to change someone's health if s/he nabs on 100% organic, wholesome foods while everyone else eats fast food every single day. EDIT: Btw, I thought we all eat some fast food everyday because aren't processed stuff, microwave, pizza (unless it's selfmade) and all the ready-made things or things in bag that you throw into your mouth inbetween also fast food?:/ [/quote] I think people are missing my point here. Fast food is marketed as though it's not dangerous; in fact, they make it seem good to buy as much fast food as you can because of things like the Ronald McDonald house. The difference is that they probably strain the medical system as much as they help it through making people unhealthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 [quote name='Whirr' timestamp='1308763767' post='5303007'] I think people are missing my point here. Fast food is marketed as though it's not dangerous. [/quote] They are marketting it as if it were tasty (it is), and that its cheap (it is). They do mention the hazards in the ending ToS thing at the commercial but never read it aloud. And McDonalds food is not dangerous unless you let it be, unlike Heroin the effects are not immediate nor are they fatal except by excessive eating. Nor is it anywhere near as addicting than any other food someone may like. If they are, oops accident? You'd get the same from eating Bran Flakes. You aren't making a point, you are just following the exhaggerations. Now excuse me while I go eat my 2 Sausage McMuffin, 2 Hashbrowns and extra large Coke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirr Posted June 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 [quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1308764900' post='5303086'] They are marketting it as if it were tasty (it is), and that its cheap (it is). They do mention the hazards in the ending ToS thing at the commercial but never read it aloud. And McDonalds food is not dangerous unless you let it be, unlike Heroin the effects are not immediate [b]The effects ARE immediate. Eating fastfood releases seretonin, associating it with pleasure. This is essentially the same way heroin creates an addiction. Seems to me like your personal bias is making you not want to believe it's as dangerous as it is.[/b] nor are they fatal except by excessive eating. [B]Cigarettes won't cause fatality unless you excessively smoke them. The catch is that they're ADDICTIVE.[/b] Nor is it anywhere near as addicting than any other food someone may like.[b]They're MORE addictive due to the high fat and salt content.[/b] If they are, oops accident? You'd get the same from eating Bran Flakes. [B]If Bran Flakes were extremely unhealthy, containing high fat and salt percentages.[/b] You aren't making a point, you are just following the exhaggerations. Now excuse me while I go eat my 2 Sausage McMuffin, 2 Hashbrowns and extra large Coke. [/quote] Your argument is more or less that you don't like people proving that fast food is unhealthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Morgan Spurlock says [i]supersize me[/i]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 [quote name='Whirr' timestamp='1308766018' post='5303125'] Your argument is more or less that you don't like people proving that fast food is unhealthy. [/quote] I never said they weren't. I said that they are nowhere near as bad as you say it is. As I said before, "All good things in moderation." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirr Posted June 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 [quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1308767582' post='5303188'] I never said they weren't. I said that they are nowhere near as bad as you say it is. As I said before, "All good things in moderation." [/quote] Everything I've said is factual, and the saying "all good things in moderation" means just what it says. It can be applied to anything from Meth, to cigarettes, to fast food. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against you, personally. In fact you seem really intelligent. I'm just saying that your argument is too vague to be applied to specific situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 [quote name='Whirr' timestamp='1308767860' post='5303204'] Everything I've said is factual, and the saying "all good things in moderation" means just what it says. It can be applied to anything.[/quote] But the context was Fast Food, given the topic title. How is that vague? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirr Posted June 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 [quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1308768115' post='5303221'] But the context was Fast Food, given the topic title. How is that vague? [/quote] You've got me there. Fast food is an umbrella term. But for all intents and purposes, I'm referring specifically to unhealthy and highly processed fast foods sold in establishments like McDonald's, Burger King, Hardees, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vough Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 [quote name='Whirr' timestamp='1308768315' post='5303235'] You've got me there. Fast food is an umbrella term. But for all intents and purposes, I'm referring specifically to unhealthy and highly processed fast foods sold in establishments like McDonald's, Burger King, Hardees, etc... [/quote] No where do commercials tell you to eat fast food everyday, and no way are they filling it with addictives. Those are regular ingredients. You're making it sound like little kids go out and buy McDonald's all by themselves, but they don't. It's the parent's fault if the child ingests large amounts of unhealthy food, but fast food and drugs are hard to compare. 1. It helps you in a hurry (On the go or don't have materials to cook) 2. It's not illegal (Nor will be) 3. It itself is not killing America. Bad food choices are. 4. It's not as addictive as heroin or cocaine, and can be controlled easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Nothing Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Isn't it common sense? I mean, tobacco literally states "This will kill you" on their products and nobody stops from using them. That being said, calories should be a mandatory part of health taught in the first grade up to the fourth grade, before sex ed (if sex ed is that early, I can't remember). Kids need to know about what makes others fat, because most kids think "Fat people are fat because they eat a lot" without realizing how many other factors go into it. If you eat 3 bags of carrots, that's a lot of carrots, but it's better for you then a happy meal at McDonalds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirr Posted June 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 [quote name='Vough' timestamp='1308812033' post='5304713'] No where do commercials tell you to eat fast food everyday, and no way are they filling it with addictives. [B]The entire purpose of their commercials is to pursuade you to eat there as often as possible. And yes, the food IS addictive.[/b] Those are regular ingredients. You're making it sound like little kids go out and buy McDonald's all by themselves, but they don't. [B]I never insinuated that. Little kids don't go buy the food, but the food itself is still incredibly bad for you and it's marketed directly to children in many instances.[/b] It's the parent's fault if the child ingests large amounts of unhealthy food, but fast food and drugs are hard to compare. [B]They're both addictive and harmful substances. It's not that hard to make a comparison.[/b] 1. It helps you in a hurry (On the go or don't have materials to cook) 2. It's not illegal (Nor will be) 3. It itself is not killing America. Bad food choices are. 4. It's not as addictive as heroin or cocaine, and can be controlled easily. [B]1 and 2 are completely irrelevant. Nothing ITSELF kills america. Guns don't kill people by themselves and neither do harmful drugs. And, scientifically speaking, fast food is as addictive as heroin when habitually eaten.[/b] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinnamonStar Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 [quote name='Whirr' timestamp='1308763767' post='5303007'] I think people are missing my point here. Fast food is marketed as though it's not dangerous; in fact, they make it seem good to buy as much fast food as you can because of things like the Ronald McDonald house. The difference is that they probably strain the medical system as much as they help it through making people unhealthy. [/quote] Yes, I guess everyone in this thread has already agreed that McDonald's food is unhealthy. Come on, get off your horse and start reading people's replies. There's no one who said that it wasn't and for once in 197561618 times, I agree with Icy. But you still haven't replied to my question. What about microwave food which also counts as fast food as much as everything else in my eyes, food that comes in bags and that is full of E-stuff, palm oil, artificial conservation and colouring, as well as all the other highly processed and ready-made food you get in supermarkets? Or people who eat meat everyday in general, people who eat sweets as their main dishes (I know some of them)? But I'm wondering more about the first thing. Isn't that stuff also processed and unhealthy, but you don't get it at a big chain, but at your local supermarket? There's no doubt that eating fast food (which in my definition is food that you eat quickly and that is ready-made because you either don't have time to cook or don't feel like it) does have an impact on your body like everything you eat and that if you eat it [b]every freaking day[/b], it's going to end up badly. However, I ate at a fast-food Indian snack yesterday, ordered some Chinese take-away at a Chinese snack that is by no means free of unhealthy fats, and also ate some fries and a fish burger at McDonald's a few weeks ago (not to mention the many times I go just take a Coke there because it goes quickly and I don't feel like standing in the crowd at the much more overcrowded supermarkets around). Sometimes when I have a lot to study, I also just put some ready-made dishes into the microwave. But I don't think I'm going to die from it. Also I don't think it has made me addicted in any way, the only thing I got addicted from for a while was alcohol. I think I understand what you're trying to get over though. The fact that McDonald's is marketed towards children makes that it's likely to be eaten by children who can't make decisions the same way as adults make them and don't really get what's good or bad for them and how often they should eat them. At least not with the whole cheesy publicity like that creepy clown and [url="http://youtu.be/WpnM3zk5OxQ"]stuff like this Japanese commercial[/url] that is entirely marketed towards children, the question doesn't even come up. So in that case, yes I agree that they should add something like "smoking can kill you" like on cigarette packings or at least focus more on the negative effects. If at your place, McDonald's seems to market their stuff as "come on guys, eat them as much as possible~", then that's also bad. But I haven't gotten that impression over here yet and I don't see much of their commercials here anyway. Now, I'm off eating my Oreos which are full of sugar, E-stuff and serotonin to create pleasure and I'll probably drink [i]a little bit[/i] tonight, which I consider worse than all the food I eat. But oh well... EDIT: Oh and by the way, Ima let you finish and reply with last words, and after that, bye double-account.~ If you want to know why, I have you on my MSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirr Posted June 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 ITT: People don't realize this is a clever joke regarding the new labels on cigarettes and consequentially use arguments [i]for[/i] fast food that most people would consider [i]stupid[/i] in the defense of tobacco products. Point being, people don't care if they tread on the convenience of others as long as their personal preferences remain in tact. My god people, you're better than this. What happened to the trailblazers like Crab Helmet? Oh and, by the way, anyone with an eighth of a functional human brain could discover this is a double account. It's no secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinnamonStar Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 [quote name='Whirr' timestamp='1308846461' post='5305326'] ITT: People don't realize this is a clever joke regarding the new labels on cigarettes and consequentially use arguments [i]for[/i] fast food that most people would consider [i]stupid[/i] in the defense of tobacco products. Point being, people don't care if they tread on the convenience of others as long as their personal preferences remain in tact. My god people, you're better than this. What happened to the trailblazers like Crab Helmet? Oh and, by the way, anyone with an eighth of a functional human brain could discover this is a double account. It's no secret. [/quote] Awww smartass, I wasn't caring much about your account since the other mods seem to be ignoring it completely, so I only noticed it now. Also self-proclaimed smartass, I haven't seen "the new labels on cigarettes" that caused you to post this topic, probably because they aren't available over here. Well if anyone else wants to discuss fast food, this topic is open. If someone could clear me up about that new label on cigarettes that I've never seen in my life, that'd be fine too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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