Crush Card Virus should be banned.

[b7hamma]

[Under_Age_User]

I agree.

[Static]

You wouldn't be saying that if you owned one. Sure, the cards broken, but its so impossible to get as it is that your never gonna see one, and its never going to affect your playing.

[Guest]

You wouldn't be saying that if you owned one. Its that simple.

 

Incorrect. It's a broken card no matter who has it.

[Static]

You wouldn't be saying that if you owned one. Its that simple.

 

Incorrect. It's a broken card no matter who has it.

 

I'm aware. I'm saying if I payed $2,500.00 for a piece of cardboard, I would expect it to make me not require as much skill to win games.

[Guest]

You wouldn't be saying that if you owned one. Its that simple.

 

Incorrect. It's a broken card no matter who has it.

 

I'm aware. I'm saying if I payed $2' date='500.00 for a piece of cardboard, it sure as hell make me not require as much skill to play the game.

[/quote']

 

...which is exactly why it deserves banning, whether or not we have one.

[TAG]

Who cares if you're never gonna get it? The point is, it is very destructiony and really deserves to be banned, regardless of how hard it is to get.

[Orochi]

ok, stop... this is absolutely pointless... you are mocking on this forum...

 

 

the chances to face that card on a touney is 1:1,800,000 so if you are afraid of that so be it!!

[Static]

You wouldn't be saying that if you owned one. Its that simple.

 

Incorrect. It's a broken card no matter who has it.

 

I'm aware. I'm saying if I payed $2' date='500.00 for a piece of cardboard, it sure as hell make me not require as much skill to play the game.

[/quote']

 

...which is exactly why it deserves banning, whether or not we have one.

 

Yugioh is not a game entirely based on skill, nor should it be. The value of a card plays a role, and for ones that are that expensive, whoever pays for it should expect it to be worth their money. Looking at issues from multiple viewpoints helps. Why should the game benefit the skilled player more than the rich one? (It should, but I also think it is arrogant to assume that the skilled player should have the best chance of winning, at least while the game exists to thrive off of a capital system.)

[TAG]

it doesn't matter how hard the card is to get. the point is, if it's overly broken, it lost likely hits the ban list.

[Static]

it doesn't matter how hard the card is to get. the point is' date=' if it's overly broken, it lost likely hits the ban list.

[/quote']

 

Money, and value placed on objects controls virtually everything in our world. This is true for yugioh, more expensive cards are less likely to be limited or banned due to "broken-ness" because they are generally harder to get. Cyber Stein is only banned because it was reprinted. It would be fair for less than 200 people to run a cyber stein OTK, because they would have payed so much money to get that SJC cyber stein in the first place. If someone bought Crush Card, they should expect that they are paying that much money, to essentially make the game more handicapped for the people they are going to play. If I payed Over 2000 for a crush card, I would be angry if I ever lost another game.

[Guest]

You wouldn't be saying that if you owned one. Its that simple.

 

Incorrect. It's a broken card no matter who has it.

 

I'm aware. I'm saying if I payed $2' date='500.00 for a piece of cardboard, it sure as hell make me not require as much skill to play the game.

[/quote']

 

...which is exactly why it deserves banning, whether or not we have one.

 

Yugioh is not a game entirely based on skill, nor should it be. The value of a card plays a role, and for ones that are that expensive, whoever pays for it should expect it to be worth their money. Looking at issues from multiple viewpoints helps. Why should the game benefit the skilled player more than the rich one? (It should, but I also think it is arrogant to assume that the skilled player should have the best chance of winning, at least while the game exists to thrive off of a capital system.)

 

If skilled players don't have the best chances of winning, the game is broken by definition.

 

it doesn't matter how hard the card is to get. the point is' date=' if it's overly broken, it lost likely hits the ban list.

[/quote']

 

Money, and value placed on objects controls virtually everything in our world. This is true for yugioh, more expensive cards are less likely to be limited or banned due to "broken-ness" because they are generally harder to get. Cyber Stein is only banned because it was reprinted. It would be fair for less than 200 people to run a cyber stein OTK, because they would have payed so much money to get that SJC cyber stein in the first place. If someone bought Crush Card, they should expect that they are paying that much money, to essentially make the game more handicapped for the people they are going to play. If I payed Over 2000 for a crush card, I would be angry if I ever lost another game.

 

How is it fair to all of the people who lost just because they didn't spend 2000+ on one card?

[HORUS]

very few people have it, less run it.

 

my friend has one, and i've seen it. he runs it in PC. 'tis nice. but really banning it would be ridiculous, as its not over-abused like DMoC

[Deity Mitsu]

My friend has it and runs it in a very good stall/burn deck. It really is quite ridiculously overpowered, but hey, they made it, so it has to have some purpose I guess?

[Sander]

This is exactly like the DMoC topic, it's already limited, why ban it? The odds someone playing it an tourney is pretty small.

[Speed Dragon90]

I don't even like the ban list to begin with (If the card is sooo overpowered why did they even make it!) but banning a card that is nearly impossible to get is kind of pointless. Even if it should be banned Konami will never do it because there are so few of them. Also I think if someone spent $2,500 on 1 card I think they kind of deserve to win after spending that kind of money on a piece of card board! Come on this thread is pointless it's not that important of an issue, it just wastes our time.

[Guest]

Shonen Jump Championship 50: More Details Revealed!

Upper Deck Entertainment is excited to celebrate the fiftieth event in the world-renowned SJC Series and the players who have made it possible. Shonen Jump Championship 50 will be held on March 8th–9th' date=' 2008, in Costa Mesa, California, at the Orange County Fair and Exposition Center This event will feature some special additions and prizes, making it more than just your average SJC.

 

We previously announced that SJC 50 will feature a special extended format, in which the Top 32 players, rather than the usual Top 16, will be invited back on Day Two. Those thirty-two players will Duel in four additional rounds of competition before the Top 8 single-elimination finals. We also announced that SJC 50 will feature a brand new prize card, which will take the place of “Gold Sarcophagus” atop the Dueling world.

 

These are not the only changes that will make SJC 50 an event to remember. The usual complement of four prize cards will be increased at SJC 50. A total of five copies of the brand new prize card will be awarded. Usually, the winner, the runner-up, the third-place finisher and the top side-events player take home a prize card. For this event only, a fifth prize card is being added to the pool. It will be awarded to the fourth-place finisher, instead of having a consolation match between the third and fourth-place finishers.

 

But that’s not all. Upper Deck will also be providing a total of fifteen copies of past prize cards at this event to top finishers! The winner will receive two copies of each past prize card: one copy of each will be encased inside the championship trophy as the premier display piece in the Dueling world, and an additional playable copy of each of “Cyber-Stein,” “Des Volstgalph,” “Shrink,” “[b']Crush Card Virus[/b],” and “Gold Sarcophagus” will be awarded to the champion of this event. Additionally, the second-place finisher will get to choose one card to keep from among those five. After that, the third-place finisher (based upon final Swiss record) will get to choose one of the remaining four cards. The fourth-place finisher will then get to choose one of the remaining three cards. There will then be two past prize cards remaining. Those two will be awarded to the two players who are in the finals of the playoff for Best Side-Events Player. Since the winner of that Duel will be awarded a copy of the new prize card, the runner-up will get his or her choice of the remaining two past prize cards, with the last card going to the Best Side-Events Player!

 

Additionally, a special Limited Collector’s Edition Game Mat is being designed especially for this event. It will feature the artwork of the new prize card. Participants will each receive one of these exciting and rare Game Mats while they last. Supplies are limited, so if you are planning to attend the event, it’s important that you don’t wait until the last minute to register on site. The mats will be on a first come, first served basis, so get on line early!

 

More details of this event will be released soon. (Yes, there’s actually more!) Stay tuned for all the great information. For more information on the Shonen Jump Championship Series, visit www.yugiohchamps.com.

 

 

 

Sincerely,

Upper Deck Entertainment

 

tl;dr: More copies of Crush Card Virus will be appearing, and are falling into the hands of people who go to tournaments such as SJC. Your chances of encountering CCV just got a huge boost.

[Speed Dragon90]

But the fact they are handing them out means they probably won't be banning it anytime soon.

[Guest]

But the fact they are handing them out means they probably won't be banning it anytime soon.

 

Doesn't change the fact that it deserves to be banned.

[HORUS]

But the fact they are handing them out means they probably won't be banning it anytime soon.

 

i must say that is a valid argument. why start to distribute CCV, only to ban it?

 

maybe it should be banned, but they won't

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

Well, CCV is VERY widespread in Japan, so, of course, we must look beyond the distribution of the card. There are FAR more reasons than that.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

Yugioh is not a game entirely based on skill, nor should it be.

 

... Am I reading that right? You would prefer a game based on LESS skill? The little bit of skill that is in the game comes entirely from deck building and predicting. If you honestly want a game based entirely on luck, go play Poker or Bridge or something.

 

The value of a card plays a role, and for ones that are that expensive, whoever pays for it should expect it to be worth their money.

 

Japan has this card mass produced. It came in a structure deck. We share banlists with them. Your point = moot.

 

Looking at issues from multiple viewpoints helps. Why should the game benefit the skilled player more than the rich one? (It should, but I also think it is arrogant to assume that the skilled player should have the best chance of winning, at least while the game exists to thrive off of a capital system.)

 

The only viewpoint that should matter is the one that promotes the health of the metagame. Obviously the kids who plays traditional won't care. The little kids who don't go to Shonen Jumps and who's Giant Soldier of Stone attacks The Moon won't care. Obviously, only the opinion of good, skilled players should matter.

 

Also, how is it arrogant to assume the best player should win? The best player... SHOULD win.

 

After reading this entire post, I can honestly say: You are the cancer that is killing the game.

(inb4 YGO iz serios buzness.)

[Sander]

Well' date=' CCV is VERY widespread in Japan, so, of course, we must look beyond the distribution of the card. There are FAR more reasons than that.

[/quote']

 

Why should you care if it's widespread in Japan? It's limited to 1 and IMO will stay there in the TCG because it isn't ''widespread'' in it like in Japan

 

Doesn't change the fact that it deserves to be banned.

 

Is that all you gotta say? That argument is very poor man.

 

Upperdeck Wrote:

Shonen Jump Championship 50: More Details Revealed!

Upper Deck Entertainment is excited to celebrate the fiftieth event in the world-renowned SJC Series and the players who have made it possible. Shonen Jump Championship 50 will be held on March 8th–9th, 2008, in Costa Mesa, California, at the Orange County Fair and Exposition Center This event will feature some special additions and prizes, making it more than just your average SJC.

 

We previously announced that SJC 50 will feature a special extended format, in which the Top 32 players, rather than the usual Top 16, will be invited back on Day Two. Those thirty-two players will Duel in four additional rounds of competition before the Top 8 single-elimination finals. We also announced that SJC 50 will feature a brand new prize card, which will take the place of “Gold Sarcophagus” atop the Dueling world.

 

These are not the only changes that will make SJC 50 an event to remember. The usual complement of four prize cards will be increased at SJC 50. A total of five copies of the brand new prize card will be awarded. Usually, the winner, the runner-up, the third-place finisher and the top side-events player take home a prize card. For this event only, a fifth prize card is being added to the pool. It will be awarded to the fourth-place finisher, instead of having a consolation match between the third and fourth-place finishers.

 

But that’s not all. Upper Deck will also be providing a total of fifteen copies of past prize cards at this event to top finishers! The winner will receive two copies of each past prize card: one copy of each will be encased inside the championship trophy as the premier display piece in the Dueling world, and an additional playable copy of each of “Cyber-Stein,” “Des Volstgalph,” “Shrink,” “Crush Card Virus,” and “Gold Sarcophagus” will be awarded to the champion of this event. Additionally, the second-place finisher will get to choose one card to keep from among those five. After that, the third-place finisher (based upon final Swiss record) will get to choose one of the remaining four cards. The fourth-place finisher will then get to choose one of the remaining three cards. There will then be two past prize cards remaining. Those two will be awarded to the two players who are in the finals of the playoff for Best Side-Events Player. Since the winner of that Duel will be awarded a copy of the new prize card, the runner-up will get his or her choice of the remaining two past prize cards, with the last card going to the Best Side-Events Player!

 

Additionally, a special Limited Collector’s Edition Game Mat is being designed especially for this event. It will feature the artwork of the new prize card. Participants will each receive one of these exciting and rare Game Mats while they last. Supplies are limited, so if you are planning to attend the event, it’s important that you don’t wait until the last minute to register on site. The mats will be on a first come, first served basis, so get on line early!

 

More details of this event will be released soon. (Yes, there’s actually more!) Stay tuned for all the great information. For more information on the Shonen Jump Championship Series, visit http://www.yugiohchamps.com.

 

 

 

Sincerely,

Upper Deck Entertainment

 

 

tl;dr: More copies of Crush Card Virus will be appearing, and are falling into the hands of people who go to tournaments such as SJC. Your chances of encountering CCV just got a huge boost.

 

That doesn't change anything, what like 2-3 players get their hands on CCV? Really huge boost man

[Guest]

Well' date=' CCV is VERY widespread in Japan, so, of course, we must look beyond the distribution of the card. There are FAR more reasons than that.

[/quote']

 

Why should you care if it's widespread in Japan? It's limited to 1 and IMO will stay there in the TCG because it isn't ''widespread'' in it like in Japan

 

Doesn't change the fact that it deserves to be banned.

 

Is that all you gotta say? That argument is very poor man.

 

Upperdeck Wrote:

Shonen Jump Championship 50: More Details Revealed!

Upper Deck Entertainment is excited to celebrate the fiftieth event in the world-renowned SJC Series and the players who have made it possible. Shonen Jump Championship 50 will be held on March 8th–9th, 2008, in Costa Mesa, California, at the Orange County Fair and Exposition Center This event will feature some special additions and prizes, making it more than just your average SJC.

 

We previously announced that SJC 50 will feature a special extended format, in which the Top 32 players, rather than the usual Top 16, will be invited back on Day Two. Those thirty-two players will Duel in four additional rounds of competition before the Top 8 single-elimination finals. We also announced that SJC 50 will feature a brand new prize card, which will take the place of “Gold Sarcophagus” atop the Dueling world.

 

These are not the only changes that will make SJC 50 an event to remember. The usual complement of four prize cards will be increased at SJC 50. A total of five copies of the brand new prize card will be awarded. Usually, the winner, the runner-up, the third-place finisher and the top side-events player take home a prize card. For this event only, a fifth prize card is being added to the pool. It will be awarded to the fourth-place finisher, instead of having a consolation match between the third and fourth-place finishers.

 

But that’s not all. Upper Deck will also be providing a total of fifteen copies of past prize cards at this event to top finishers! The winner will receive two copies of each past prize card: one copy of each will be encased inside the championship trophy as the premier display piece in the Dueling world, and an additional playable copy of each of “Cyber-Stein,” “Des Volstgalph,” “Shrink,” “Crush Card Virus,” and “Gold Sarcophagus” will be awarded to the champion of this event. Additionally, the second-place finisher will get to choose one card to keep from among those five. After that, the third-place finisher (based upon final Swiss record) will get to choose one of the remaining four cards. The fourth-place finisher will then get to choose one of the remaining three cards. There will then be two past prize cards remaining. Those two will be awarded to the two players who are in the finals of the playoff for Best Side-Events Player. Since the winner of that Duel will be awarded a copy of the new prize card, the runner-up will get his or her choice of the remaining two past prize cards, with the last card going to the Best Side-Events Player!

 

Additionally, a special Limited Collector’s Edition Game Mat is being designed especially for this event. It will feature the artwork of the new prize card. Participants will each receive one of these exciting and rare Game Mats while they last. Supplies are limited, so if you are planning to attend the event, it’s important that you don’t wait until the last minute to register on site. The mats will be on a first come, first served basis, so get on line early!

 

More details of this event will be released soon. (Yes, there’s actually more!) Stay tuned for all the great information. For more information on the Shonen Jump Championship Series, visit http://www.yugiohchamps.com.

 

 

 

Sincerely,

Upper Deck Entertainment

 

 

tl;dr: More copies of Crush Card Virus will be appearing, and are falling into the hands of people who go to tournaments such as SJC. Your chances of encountering CCV just got a huge boost.

 

That doesn't change anything, what like 2-3 players get their hands on CCV? Really huge boost man

 

You are aware that the OCG and TCG have the same banlist, right?

 

And what's important is that a significant group of people are getting copies of CCV, and they are already going to SJC's. This gives a significant increase to the probability of running into CCV in a tournament, especially in the later duels.

 

Also, when has the number released ever been a factor in deciding where a card should fall on the banlist?

[RedSceptile]

If you think that the skilled players shouldn't be winning stop please, and don't ever come back?

 

You're acting as if Crush Card Virus is going to be massed produce. It's going to happen sooner or later and when it does, what's going to be your argument then? Not to mention, saying that the scarcity of a card should determine whether it's banned or not is null and void as well.