.Nu-13 Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 [center][img]http://magiccards.info/scans/en/som/223.jpg[/img] Discuss[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I <3 the fact that it is searchable...also killing this thing is kinda hard to do due to its effect...and the now existence of Buried Ruins This card is the new Base of Caw Blade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Card is awesome. Just be glad that it didn't come with Trample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 [quote name='CDDRodrigo' timestamp='1311183460' post='5371944'] Broken. [/quote] WAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｓｕｐｐｒｅｓｓｉｏｎ ＰＬＵＴＯ' timestamp='1311218890' post='5373297'] WAT [/quote] xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 This creature's power and toughness are well over curve. If I would have designed a card with this effect and mana cost according to my Theory Magic, I would have made it a 4/4 that produces 2/2s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 [quote name='Mystery Guest' timestamp='1311262526' post='5374277'] This creature's power and toughness are well over curve. If I would have designed a card with this effect and mana cost according to my Theory Magic, I would have made it a 4/4 that produces 2/2s. [/quote] Actually, P/T on their own are right on the curve here; not so sure the curve applies anymore, though. Elite Vanguard and Baneslayer have existed for a while, and Green has been running above the curve for a good while now and still hasn't gone anywhere on its own competitively. On the actual card, very good one - and over the curve, yes, but because of the bunch of extras. I don't know how the Scars block is as a whole and what new support this benefits from, but it's really nice on its own. Mythic Rares allow for this kind of power creep to exist, which in my opinion shouldn't be this particular rarity's purpose, but that's beside the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesirson Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 DAT ART DAT EFFECT DAT CARD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='MarbleZone' timestamp='1311272190' post='5374754'] Actually, P/T on their own are right on the curve here; not so sure the curve applies anymore, though. Elite Vanguard and Baneslayer have existed for a while, and Green has been running above the curve for a good while now and still hasn't gone anywhere on its own competitively. On the actual card, very good one - and over the curve, yes, but because of the bunch of extras. I don't know how the Scars block is as a whole and what new support this benefits from, but it's really nice on its own. Mythic Rares allow for this kind of power creep to exist, which in my opinion shouldn't be this particular rarity's purpose, but that's beside the point. [/quote] MaRo has said quite a few times "an artifact is supposed to augment a deck's weakness, not increase its strengths." As such, I figure that would mean an artifact creature should be weaker than the creatures in the colors yet have some trick to them other colors don't have. An artifact creature shouldn't be so powerful such that you'd choose it over a creature in a color even if you didn't need to cover the weakness the artifact covers. Saying such, since being a 6/6 is probably made it considerable over the Titans, I'd weaken this to 4/4 and have it spit out 2/2s. I agree that if it didn't have its abilities, I'd keep it a 6/6. However, I don't think all colors should have access to solid colorless P/T = CMC beatstick with abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niv-Mizzet Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I would have put it in New Phyrexia and costed it 4(Phyrexian G)(Phyrexian G). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='ArchmageCarn' timestamp='1311335816' post='5377142'] I would have put it in New Phyrexia and costed it 4(Phyrexian G)(Phyrexian G). [/quote] Are you nuts? That would mean every deck could cast it for 4 mana and 4 life (which it will probably gain back using lifelink and/or one of its token's lifelink). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Mystery Guest' timestamp='1311335339' post='5377138'] MaRo has said quite a few times "an artifact is supposed to augment a deck's weakness, not increase its strengths." As such, I figure that would mean an artifact creature should be weaker than the creatures in the colors yet have some trick to them other colors don't have. An artifact creature shouldn't be so powerful such that you'd choose it over a creature in a color even if you didn't need to cover the weakness the artifact covers. Saying such, since being a 6/6 is probably made it considerable over the Titans, I'd weaken this to 4/4 and have it spit out 2/2s. I agree that if it didn't have its abilities, I'd keep it a 6/6. However, I don't think all colors should have access to solid colorless P/T = CMC beatstick with abilities. [/quote] To bee honest....I've only saw 1 Deck type using this card TBH...and that's it...the Caw Blade post Bannings... I mean...there are better stuff than this...MUCH better stuff that this...so it is balanced as it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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