evilhorus Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [Img] http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/7/77/SanganGLD2-EN-GUR-LE.jpg[/img] OK, as we all know, sangan is freaking awesome (no s***) But, what if it gets banned? Will Tour Guide see as much play? Will some decks lose consistency? Discuss Sangan and the effect it might have on the Meta if it gets hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAINTAIN GOD OF DUNDA MT. Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Sangan = The Best Level 3 Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Sangan is the best Fiend of all times. He's been around from since the beggining, too. He's a bro. He can't go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 OCG doesn't have tour guides so it won't get hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1312638251' post='5419327'] OCG doesn't have tour guides so it won't get hit. [/quote] This. It won't get banned then even. Its been around since day 1. It would be kind of sad to see it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='Jord200' timestamp='1312638599' post='5419331'] This. It won't get banned then even. Its been around since day 1. It would be kind of sad to see it go. [/quote] I won't be mourning the loss of an easily abusable, searchable and recyclable searcher who can get probably 80% of most decks' monsters to the hand. Also, I'm sceptical of the theory that tour guide will still be a staple even after sangan's ban. The banning of sangan would have a major impact on how effective tour guide is, and it wouldn't have many decent targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='tee hee hee' timestamp='1312642145' post='5419456'] it has itself and dark mimic lol [/quote] [url="http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/9/9f/Broww%2CHuntsmanofDarkWorldEEN-EN-R.jpg"][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061104041827/yugioh/images/thumb/9/9f/Broww%2CHuntsmanofDarkWorldEEN-EN-R.jpg/300px-Broww%2CHuntsmanofDarkWorldEEN-EN-R.jpg[/img][/url] Derp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 It's been established that Guide is good in Dark Worlds (regardless of sangan's existence) but outside of Dark World, I still can't see it being a true staple without sangan. There's the Gold Sarc > Guide > Leviair > Profit combo, but you have to devote a fair bit of deck space to reliably achieve that combo and I doubt that all decks will be able to make space to accommodate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 post effect pl0x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='Superdoopertrooper' timestamp='1312643551' post='5419508'] It's been established that Guide is good in Dark Worlds (regardless of sangan's existence) but outside of Dark World, I still can't see it being a true staple without sangan. There's the Gold Sarc > Guide > Leviair > Profit combo, but you have to devote a fair bit of deck space to reliably achieve that combo and I doubt that all decks will be able to make space to accommodate it. [/quote] I think most decks can find room for 2 Tour Guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted August 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='Black W Mage' timestamp='1312643856' post='5419520']</p> post effect pl0x [/quote]you must be a terrible yugioh player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='HORUS' timestamp='1312644192' post='5419533'] you must be a terrible yugioh player. [/quote] Obviously, he doesn't have a tricycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted August 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='-Pacman-' timestamp='1312644243' post='5419535'] Obviously, he doesn't have a tricycle. [/quote]he does act. Its apparently penis-shaped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='HORUS' timestamp='1312632642' post='5419239'] If you ask "post effect", you need to learn more yugimanz. [/quote] [quote name='HORUS' timestamp='1312644192' post='5419533'] you must be a terrible yugioh player. [/quote] room for improvement =/= being bad though it is true I'm bad[color=#ffffff], its just you guys really suck.[/color] Also, yeah, lol tricycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='tee hee hee' timestamp='1312643751' post='5419516'] guide is a 1 card 2500 beater that will be live 99.999999999999999999999% of the time, how is that not staple [/quote] A 1 card 2500 beater still isn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Monster Reborn is essentially a 1 card 2500 beater. therefore its not good enough to be a staple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='Black W Mage' timestamp='1312644659' post='5419555'] Monster Reborn is essentially a 1 card 2500 beater. therefore its not good enough to be a staple. [/quote] Tour Guide = Monster Reborn lolwut? [quote name='tee hee hee' timestamp='1312644624' post='5419551'] yes it is [/quote] Name any deck. Samurais, Hero's, Gravekeepers, etc. All of them have bigger and better things to be doing than putting a simple 2500 Beater on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='tee hee hee' timestamp='1312645243' post='5419580'] actually tour guide is better because it's live on turn 1 [/quote] Monster Reborn is live from the very first moment a monster enters the graveyard. In many cases, yes, that will be turn 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='Superdoopertrooper' timestamp='1312645172' post='5419578'] Name any deck. Samurais, Hero's, Gravekeepers, etc. All of them have bigger and better things to be doing than putting a simple 2500 Beater on the field. [/quote] ITT: the point of sams isn't getting a 2.5k beater on the field. also, Heroes like Leviath because its WATER and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='Black W Mage' timestamp='1312645522' post='5419603'] ITT: the point of sams isn't getting a 2.5k beater on the field. also, Heroes like Leviath because its WATER and stuff. [/quote] Should have wrote an inb4. - Sam's would [u]always[/u] rather go for Shi En than summon a tour guide and get out a flimsy beatstick. - Heroes would rather search and summon stratos/alius. I'm not denying Guide has it uses, Heroes can use it to make levial which can revive miracle fusion materials and then further fuel Zero set-ups, but the point is that it's not as if the deck must play it. It's more or less a splashable engine that can make a variant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Heroes only use 4 monsters, Stratos and Alius. They don't use any other monsters because they rather search and summon stratos/alius. though I'ma be honest, I don't like the idea of Tour Guide in Sams or GKs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='tee hee hee' timestamp='1312646442' post='5419634'] but it's staple [/quote] Shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='Black W Mage' timestamp='1312646346' post='5419629'] Heroes only use 4 monsters, Stratos and Alius. They don't use any other monsters because they rather search and summon stratos/alius. [/quote] True, but the other monsters are mostly stun-based, like thunder king, breaker and snowman eater. It's a beat down deck, and tour guide can be a liability for it. Drawing multiple copies of it would be enough to send shivers down a Hero players spine. [quote name='tee hee hee' timestamp='1312646229' post='5419628'] ITT: you will always be able to do those things [/quote] If you have played with or against samurai's, you would know how incredibly consistent a first turn Shi En is. Decks are designed to do certain things, putting tour guide in any random deck can and will interfere with it's main strategy in many cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='tee hee hee' timestamp='1312646787' post='5419646'] wait so I can't have an opinion [/quote] You can, but it doesn't mean it's correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 [quote name='HORUS' timestamp='1312644192' post='5419533'] you must be a terrible yugioh player. [/quote] Effect or a picture of the card must be in the opening post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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