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A discussion on Sangan and what will happen if it's banned.


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OK, as we all know, sangan is freaking awesome (no s***)

But, what if it gets banned? Will Tour Guide see as much play? Will some decks lose consistency?

Discuss Sangan and the effect it might have on the Meta if it gets hit.

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[quote name='Jord200' timestamp='1312638599' post='5419331']

This. It won't get banned then even. Its been around since day 1. It would be kind of sad to see it go.
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I won't be mourning the loss of an easily abusable, searchable and recyclable searcher who can get probably 80% of most decks' monsters to the hand. Also, I'm sceptical of the theory that tour guide will still be a staple even after sangan's ban. The banning of sangan would have a major impact on how effective tour guide is, and it wouldn't have many decent targets.

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[quote name='tee hee hee' timestamp='1312642145' post='5419456']
it has itself and dark mimic lol
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Derp.

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It's been established that Guide is good in Dark Worlds (regardless of sangan's existence) but outside of Dark World, I still can't see it being a true staple without sangan. There's the Gold Sarc > Guide > Leviair > Profit combo, but you have to devote a fair bit of deck space to reliably achieve that combo and I doubt that all decks will be able to make space to accommodate it.

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[quote name='Superdoopertrooper' timestamp='1312643551' post='5419508']
It's been established that Guide is good in Dark Worlds (regardless of sangan's existence) but outside of Dark World, I still can't see it being a true staple without sangan. There's the Gold Sarc > Guide > Leviair > Profit combo, but you have to devote a fair bit of deck space to reliably achieve that combo and I doubt that all decks will be able to make space to accommodate it.
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I think most decks can find room for 2 Tour Guide.

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[quote name='HORUS' timestamp='1312632642' post='5419239']
If you ask "post effect", you need to learn more yugimanz.
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[quote name='HORUS' timestamp='1312644192' post='5419533']
you must be a terrible yugioh player.
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room for improvement =/= being bad

though it is true I'm bad[color=#ffffff], its just you guys really suck.[/color]

Also, yeah, lol tricycle.

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[quote name='Black W Mage' timestamp='1312644659' post='5419555']
Monster Reborn is essentially a 1 card 2500 beater.

therefore its not good enough to be a staple.
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Tour Guide = Monster Reborn lolwut?



[quote name='tee hee hee' timestamp='1312644624' post='5419551']
yes it is
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Name any deck. Samurais, Hero's, Gravekeepers, etc. All of them have bigger and better things to be doing than putting a simple 2500 Beater on the field.

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[quote name='Superdoopertrooper' timestamp='1312645172' post='5419578']
Name any deck. Samurais, Hero's, Gravekeepers, etc. All of them have bigger and better things to be doing than putting a simple 2500 Beater on the field.
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ITT: the point of sams isn't getting a 2.5k beater on the field.

also, Heroes like Leviath because its WATER and stuff.

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[quote name='Black W Mage' timestamp='1312645522' post='5419603']
ITT: the point of sams isn't getting a 2.5k beater on the field.

also, Heroes like Leviath because its WATER and stuff.
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Should have wrote an inb4.

- Sam's would [u]always[/u] rather go for Shi En than summon a tour guide and get out a flimsy beatstick.
- Heroes would rather search and summon stratos/alius.

I'm not denying Guide has it uses, Heroes can use it to make levial which can revive miracle fusion materials and then further fuel Zero set-ups, but the point is that it's not as if the deck must play it. It's more or less a splashable engine that can make a variant.

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[quote name='Black W Mage' timestamp='1312646346' post='5419629']
Heroes only use 4 monsters, Stratos and Alius. They don't use any other monsters because they rather search and summon stratos/alius.
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True, but the other monsters are mostly stun-based, like thunder king, breaker and snowman eater. It's a beat down deck, and tour guide can be a liability for it. Drawing multiple copies of it would be enough to send shivers down a Hero players spine.



[quote name='tee hee hee' timestamp='1312646229' post='5419628']
ITT: you will always be able to do those things
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If you have played with or against samurai's, you would know how incredibly consistent a first turn Shi En is. Decks are designed to do certain things, putting tour guide in any random deck can and will interfere with it's main strategy in many cases.

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