Dwarven King Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Contrary to what most of you will think based on the title and the types of threads recently locked in this section, this is a serious thread. It's subject? Corruption found throughout the world. Either in politics, school, relationships (...is that even possible? O.o), positions of power, etc. Basically corruption as a whole. So...discuss corruption, where you have seen it at, and ways you think it can be fixed. BEGIN DISCUSSION!!!! [size=1]If Welche or Hardy post something idiotic that could very well lead to getting this thread locked, just ignore them and report them...or wait for me to notice it and report them. This is a serious thread and it will remain so. DK COMMANDS IT!!!![/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Welche is banned, he can't post in here. OT: The American Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rias Gremory Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Colombia for a start I guess. Its where I was born and I loved it but it was corrupted D: For an instance, the Guerrilla (very dangerous group who kidnap people and keep them in the jungle.) Forcing siblings of the person to pay a lot of money or the kidnapped person would be killed. Drug dealers too and there's a little mafia. I really don't think there's a way to fix it since the current president doesn't give a sh*t about it D: Colombia is an awesome country but if they could fix at least the Guerrilla problem, it could be the perfect country. [size=1]oh btw don't worry about welche. he was post-banned for 30 days thank god[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1313545576' post='5449129'] Welche is banned, he can't post in here. OT: The American Government. [/quote] [quote name='Erza Knightblood' timestamp='1313545612' post='5449131'] Colombia for a start I guess. Its where I was born and I loved it but it was corrupted D: For an instance, the Guerrilla (very dangerous group who kidnap people and keep them in the jungle.) Forcing siblings of the person to pay a lot of money or the kidnapped person would be killed. Drug dealers too and there's a little mafia. I really don't think there's a way to fix it since the current president doesn't give a sh*t about it D: Colombia is an awesome country but if they could fix at least the Guerrilla problem, it could be the perfect country. [size=1]oh btw don't worry about welche. he was post-banned for 30 days thank god[/size] [/quote] Hmm...maybe resurrect a group of the best leaders in history, make them immortal, and tell them to run the world? O.o On a more serious note, I agree with both of you. The American Government *looks to see if he is being watched* is corrupted to an extent. As for the Mafia and stuff in Columbia, I don't really think that could be fixed even if the President cared. Look at all the other countries that have leaders that at least half care. They still have Drug Dealers, Gangs, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Exodia Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 The Libyan Leader. "Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely." Is what I have heard. When given complete rule, most will go mad. It takes a Strong Ruler to overcome it. The German Government in the 30's and 40's was Corrupted. MAJORLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='Alex C. Exodia' timestamp='1313545816' post='5449142'] The Libyan Leader. "Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely." Is what I have heard. When given complete rule, most will go mad. It takes a Strong Ruler to overcome it. The German Government in the 30's and 40's was Corrupted. MAJORLY. [/quote] To an extent. Hitler actually had some decent ideas. He just went the wrong way in trying to accomplish them. He was also a brilliant strategist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Exodia Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 True. The bombings did halt progress in the Early War. But when America joined in... they pulled the Allies together to plan. It wasn't just us, Britian, France, Spain and Italy in the Later War, to defeat Germany and its Allies. His Strategy turned on him, somewhat. If he hadn't been Nucking Futs in the later part in everything, he might have actually turned himself around and attempted to instead rebuild "The Third Reich" into a Somewhat Peaceful Society, and not have himself killed. And we would be somewhat happy about it. New Allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raine Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='Erza Knightblood' timestamp='1313545612' post='5449131'] Colombia for a start I guess. Its where I was born and I loved it but it was corrupted D: For an instance, the Guerrilla (very dangerous group who kidnap people and keep them in the jungle.) Forcing siblings of the person to pay a lot of money or the kidnapped person would be killed. Drug dealers too and there's a little mafia. I really don't think there's a way to fix it since the current president doesn't give a sh*t about it D: Colombia is an awesome country but if they could fix at least the Guerrilla problem, it could be the perfect country. [size=1]oh btw don't worry about welche. he was post-banned for 30 days thank god[/size] [/quote] Don't forget the military dictatorships, South America loves their totalitarianism. Corruption is as human as greed- oh wait. Yeah, as long as a non-perfect system exists then people will continue to find exploits and use them to their advantage for power and wealth or even greater benefit. Its not often but sometimes people will go malum pro bono, evil for the sake of good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Congress IMO. Not tryin' to spark a debate or something, but people should care more about what is right, not who is right. Focus on helping the country rather then "ZOMG! Campaign promises and relections!". And that applies to the guys on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-dreezyAFG Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 the middle east. Afghanistan, and many other countries in the middle east were once beautiful countries. unfourtunately, the taliban, made by US and israel, threatens to make it a hellhole. its a lot of crap going on there, and let me be the fist to tell you the truth. the truth is- *shot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frunk Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Governments aren't corrupt. Some/many/most government officials are corrupt. Is there a difference? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassa Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 FIFA. The Most Corrupt sporting Federation Evar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HÉ‘rdy Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [size="5"]OKAY I APOLOGISE FOR BEING AN IDIOT AND HAVING A VIEW WHICH IS MORE OR LESS THE TRUTH. Trololo[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='Alex C. Exodia' timestamp='1313546329' post='5449172'] True. The bombings did halt progress in the Early War. But when America joined in... they pulled the Allies together to plan. It wasn't just us, Britian, France, Spain and Italy in the Later War, to defeat Germany and its Allies. His Strategy turned on him, somewhat. If he hadn't been Nucking Futs in the later part in everything, he might have actually turned himself around and attempted to instead rebuild "The Third Reich" into a Somewhat Peaceful Society, and not have himself killed. And we would be somewhat happy about it. New Allies. [/quote] Actually, Japan was his downfall. If they hadn't attacked America, America would not have joined the war until it was too late. [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1313549700' post='5449323'] Congress IMO. Not tryin' to spark a debate or something, but people should care more about what is right, not who is right. Focus on helping the country rather then "ZOMG! Campaign promises and relections!". And that applies to the guys on both sides. [/quote] I agree. It not really the system, but the people running the system. [quote name='Frunk' timestamp='1313568596' post='5449928'] Governments aren't corrupt. Some/many/most government officials are corrupt. Is there a difference? Probably not. [/quote] I believe there is a difference. A perfect system can be implemented. But sometimes, corrupt people are put in charge of said system. Other times, the system gives said person to much power and said person becomes corrupt. At any case, I do not blame the system, but rather the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Exodia Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='Dwarven King' timestamp='1313588042' post='5450174'] Actually, Japan was his downfall. If they hadn't attacked America, America would not have joined the war until it was too late. I agree. It not really the system, but the people running the system. I believe there is a difference. A perfect system can be implemented. But sometimes, corrupt people are put in charge of said system. Other times, the system gives said person to much power and said person becomes corrupt. At any case, I do not blame the system, but rather the people. [/quote] True. But America would be advanced enough(Atomic Bombs???) to take down the First Reich with anything they had. They'd just kill more people and spiral everyone in Europe into a Economic Famine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 A so-called [i]perfect[/i] system would take into account that government officials are imperfect. [i]The American Government[/i] No, pretty much every modern reigning class of any country is corrupt. No need to single out America when corruption is omnipresent in our world, especially because some government systems are more corrupt than we are. And when I say government systems, I'm also including government [i]officials[/i], so don't bitchfit at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Exodia Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 And sometimes it's not the highest up that is the Corrupted one, but a Respected one to the highest that feeds it incorrect information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Nothing is perfect, so that would entitle everything to being "corrupt"... Sort of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Exodia Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 But there is a such thing as not Corrupt but not perfect. Corrupt, by book definition- "Having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain" as an Adjective. A just leader is not perfect, but not Corrupt. A leader fit for rule. We could say some of the older presidents (*Ahem* Abe Lincoln*Ahem*) were perfectly just leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted August 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 You guys are making some valid points. Do keep them coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larxene Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 America needs to mind its own business and stop acting like the world's police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Exodia Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 [quote name='Larxene' timestamp='1313629374' post='5451743'] America needs to mind its own business and stop acting like the world's police. [/quote] I'm American, and your kinda right. 70 Years ago to this year, we tried to keep out of Wars. Only after we were attacked did we join in. 10 years ago, we joined in after being attacked in our own Country(Nobody has actually ever tried that before, well, since the Revolutionary War.) by a certain organization or two(But there were other ways to solve said crisis. Infiltration, for one.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 [quote name='Alex C. Exodia' timestamp='1313617681' post='5451375'] But there is a such thing as not Corrupt but not perfect. Corrupt, by book definition- "Having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain" as an Adjective. A just leader is not perfect, but not Corrupt. A leader fit for rule. We could say some of the older presidents (*Ahem* Abe Lincoln*Ahem*) were perfectly just leaders. [/quote] Perfectly true. That's a pretty rare type of people, though. Humble beginnings do bring humble leaders ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smesh Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 [quote name='Larxene' timestamp='1313629374' post='5451743'] America needs to mind its own business and stop acting like the world's police. [/quote] Couldn't have said it any better. OT: the state of Texas and all redneck inhibited (spelling?) areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 [quote name='Smesh' timestamp='1313654538' post='5452427'] OT: the state of Texas and all redneck inhibited (spelling?) areas. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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