The Illuminati and the NWO

[Ghoulish]

I've been scanning around Youtube lately and i was brought to the attention of a supposed group known as, the "Illuminati". Apparently these are the highest ranked individuals in the world formed into one group along with famous iconic public figures. These individuals are said to also be the instigators of "The New World Order" which is apparently the destruction of most of the world to occur in late 2012. ( :/ ) Some of the evidence of this supposed group's existance seems quite overwhelming but I'm not to sure if I can buy this whole fiasco, some "evidence" are thought to be:
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[*]The usage of the term "Rain Man"
[*]"We Sold our soul to the devil" (Music Industry)
[*]The display of the Eye in the Pyramid in TV shows, Movies and Music
[*]The recurrence of particular numbers eg: 7, 6, 3am, 25, 11
[*]American $1? I think it was?
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These are just some of the evidence specified, so at the moment i'm in a cross roads, is there some sort of hidden yet public group that controls the world? Or is it simply speculation and food for conspiracy theorists? Debate?

[Darth Revan of the Sith]

I believe the Illuminati are not part of the NWO conspiracy, rather I believe they are a secret society bent on destroying the foundations of religion...

As for the NWO I feel the main proponent of that theory will be the United States as that is where the conspiracy became popular...

[Dr. Cakey]

I was curious, so I decided to analyze the mystery of the dollar bill, since it's something I should be able to verify myself. On the back, under the pyramid with the eye, is written "Novus Ordo Seclorum". I can independently verify that "Novus Ordo" does mean "New Order", but I can't find any word that seems to be "seclorum" in my Latin dictionary (unless the Illuminati have invaded the Oxford presses as well?). My personal informational source indicates "Novus Ordo Seclorum" means "New order for the ages" (obviously referring to democracy, which makes sense, when you note that on the base of the pyramid is inscribed (in Latin) "1776", which corresponds to the founding of the United States). For more independent verification, I went back to the dictionary and looked up the Latin for "age" and found that "age" (meaning a century) is "saeculum". I also looked up "world", which did not have anything remotely similar to "seclorum", but one word for "worldly" is "saecularis" (obviously the word "secular" is derived from).

Now that I had "saeculum" I went back and looked up "saeculum", defined as a "generation", "life-time", "century", or an "indefinitely long period". Interestingly, the dictionary also noted the first "u" as optional, indicating some kind of corruption or dialect (idk), meaning it could also be written as "saeclum". Now, since I didn't remember how to decline neuter nouns, I dug up my Latin textbook. The plural genitive ending for a neuter noun in the second declension is "orum". The genitive case describes when a noun modifies a noun. In other words, "Seclorum/Saeclorum" describes what kind of new order the "Novus Ordo" is.

[size=6]Conclusion: "Novus Order Seclorum" means "New order for the ages"[/size]

[size=6]Me: 1[/size]
[size=6]Not Me: 0[/size]

EDIT: ADDENDUM: "Saecularis" would not have a form ending in "orum" or anything like it, as it appears to be an adjective in the first declension (feminine). Additionally, "Novus Ordo Saeculae" (which I think is how it would be written) doesn't mean "New World Order", it means "New Order [i]of the world[/i]", that is, a new order that is in this material world, rather than, say, a spiritual order. When America isn't "of this world", let me know.

SECOND EDIT: This by itself doesn't prove anything, but when your theory's "evidence" can be disproven by a smartass teenager with a pocket dictionary...I worry about you.

[Ghoulish]

You don't need to worry, in fact I worry about you for thinking it's my theory and my evidence when clearly I presented it as something I'm in a cross roads with, also the dollar bill meaning wasn't supposed to be defining the words, "N" "W" "O" were I think at the points of the triangle? Or something like that. Anyway I suppose what you said is still helpful

[Dr. Cakey]

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You don't need to worry, in fact I worry about you for thinking it's my theory and my evidence when clearly I presented it as something I'm in a cross roads with, also the dollar bill meaning wasn't supposed to be defining the words, "N" "W" "O" were I think at the points of the triangle? Or something like that. Anyway I suppose what you said is still helpful
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The fact that you're "at a crossroads" is scary enough.

Let me tell you about someone on Youtube - I do not recall their name, but it's probably pretty likely you've seen them. A few years ago, when worldwide pandemics were "in", Thunderf00t (a very popular YT rationalist, member of the League of Reason, and genuine British person) took the opportunity to explain how viruses spread, and why you can go from only a few cases to a worldwide outbreak in days. In his explanation, he utilized a whiteboard, drawing charts to demonstrate his points. This someone whose name I fail to remember - and this is SERIOUS, not a parody - took Thunderf00t's wipe-off marker drawings and explained how they were all Illuminati symbols.

*And inevitably, I can't find the video, though I didn't look very hard*

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

No real significance or point beyond the fact that people naturally want an answer that is astounding to all of life's questions. In this case: why is there corruption and why is there international turmoil? The eye had many more uses beyond freemasonry that people are ignorant of(It's an eye FFS, it's a pretty common theme).

Are there corrupt politicians? Yes. Will they occasional converge and do corrupt things together? Duh, just look at the EU and UN or "bipartisan" efforts. Do they wear hoods and seek immortality(ignoring the fact that many supposed members died off hundreds of years ago), try to kill 80% of the world, and worship a goat demon? No. Well, maybe Romney does, but that's just a mormon thing.

[Dr. Cakey]

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Are there corrupt politicians? Yes. Will they occasional converge and do corrupt things together? Duh, just look at the EU and UN or "bipartisan" efforts. Do they wear hoods and seek immortality(ignoring the fact that many supposed members died off hundreds of years ago), try to kill 80% of the world, and worship a goat demon? No. Well, maybe Romney does, but that's just a mormon thing.
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