Cloister Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [center][img]http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7194/47839p.jpg[/img] Cannot be Special Summoned. During the turn you Normal Summon this card: you cannot Special Summon Level 4 or lower monsters. This card cannot attack your opponent directly. [/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelds9 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Looks great. Solid, balanced effect, a useful card. Is that image from your Archive? It looks great in a card! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigzix Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 I think not being able to attack directly is a little restrictive since there are cards like Gene-Warped Warwolf who only falls 100 ATK points short of this card but have no restrictions, if he can't attack directly maybe make it so he has a way of doing damage, otherwise this is a really good solid card with fairly decent defense to match his brutish attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Image is nothing special :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelds9 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='Daemon' timestamp='1313599621' post='5450564'] Image is nothing special :/ [/quote] *coughcheckhisarchivecough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='shelds9' timestamp='1313599736' post='5450568'] *coughcheckhisarchivecough* [/quote] Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 I'll raise its ATK by 100. And I made the pic myself, first pic I've ever done in PS, so didn't think it would be good, just wanted to use it in a card since I'm a big fan of the creator of the render. It's not in my archive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3RA PROWL3R Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 You should change the last effect to: [i]"When this card Attacks your opponent directly, this card's ATK becomes 1000 during the Damage Step"[/i] Or something like what Submarineroid does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 I want it to not being able to attack directly. That's why I put it there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varionius Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Very nice, but pretty simple, I wold put this in my deck. 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3RA PROWL3R Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Then it doesn't do anything besides elimination of set monsters. There are few 4 Star Monsters that have higher ATK than this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Raised its ATK to 2250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3RA PROWL3R Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Eh, doesn't really help. Its the Effect, not the ATK. This makes my last statement even more agreeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manpole Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 I think this card is perfectly balanced. You can still use him in a Synchro Summon because his effect only negates lvl 4 or lower monsters, once he is removed from the field for a synchro summon, special summon all the lvl 4's you want. As for it not being able to attack directly, that is perfectly fine, his attack is 2250 afterall. For the people who think this card should be able attack directly, to see if this card is useful, you don't have to compare it to other really great lvl 4's.... such as Gene-Warped Warwolf, compare it to Goblin Attack Force, Armor Exe, Black Veloci, and other level 4 monsters with over 1900 ATK. Also you have to look at the cards Type, dragons do not have a Gene-Warped Warwolf, so this works better in a dragon deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3RA PROWL3R Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Gene-Warped Warwolf is a Level 4 monster with over 1900 ATK. Dragons have a TON of monsters with over 1900 ATK and easily exploitable effects. Axe Dragonute: You can use a card to keep it in Attack Mode. Like Final Attack Orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manpole Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 I never said Gene-Warped didnt have 1900 ATK... I'm having trouble finding more than a handful of powerhouse level 4 or lower Dragon monsters (every type has plenty with over 1900 ATK, but how many of them are level 4 or lower?) Axe Dragonute has less ATK than Bruteflame and to be effective as you said, needs to be combined with a trap card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3RA PROWL3R Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 It can still attack directly and you can Special Summon as much as you want when it is Summoned. Cave Dragon and Rare Metal Dragon. Rare Metal Dragon is pretty much the Exact Opposite of this card, except with more ATK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manpole Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Cave Dragon and Rare Metal Dragon... thats 2 cards. Both of which I think are worse than Brufeflame. (2 is not a TON) Yes, Gene can attack directly and you can spec summon lvl 4s that turn. But also, Bruteflame can kill it. And did I mention, Gene isn't a Dragon type? So it could not help a Dragon themed deck. (unless you want to take out potential support for dragons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3RA PROWL3R Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Actually, yes it could. It gives you a beatstick with no cost. There ARE cards that change monsters into Dragon-Types you know. Hey, but Guess what. Gorz can kill Bruteflame, and it is just as easy to summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manpole Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Yes, but those cards will just take up space in your deck, just for a Gene-Warped Werewolf? And yes, Gorz could kill Bruteflame, however, he cannot be Normal Summoned as easily as Gene or Bruteflame (no tribute, level 4's). Also, because of Bruteflames effect, you couldnt special summon Gorz lol. (cannot attack directly =p) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3RA PROWL3R Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Gorz isn't Level 4 or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manpole Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 "...he cannot be Normal Summoned as easily as Gene or Bruteflame (no tribute, level 4's)." I know... I'm saying he cannot be Normal Summoned as easily as level 4 monsters, such as Gene or Bruteflame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3RA PROWL3R Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 He CAN'T be Normal Summoned. [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gorz"]http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gorz[/url] You could just not put anything down for 1 turn, then LET your opponent Attack you. You could essentially get 2 monsters from 1 Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Discussion. Great! Actually, he can be Normal Summoned. Except he doesn't gain his effect if you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3RA PROWL3R Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 I guess. Its just not worth it, unless Royal Oppression is out or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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