Nede Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 [img]http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/8413/451325.jpg[/img] Lore : During your Main Phase, you can Tribute this card to inflict 200 damage to your opponent for each Pyro-Type monster in your Graveyard. If you do, select 1 face-up FIRE monster you control and have it gain 100 ATK for each 200 damage inflicted to your opponent. Rate and Comment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raaabr Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Against deck destruction decks: [b][i]Epic, almost bordering on Overpowered.[/i][/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nede Posted September 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name='raaabr' timestamp='1317034198' post='5541683']Against deck destruction decks: [b][i]Epic, almost bordering on Overpowered.[/i][/b][/quote] What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raaabr Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 You have tons of pyro monsters in your graveyard and one on the field other than Flamvell servant. You use Servant's effect. If the opponent does not instantly lose, then the attack of the other monster will win you the duel. Seems OPed to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 100 burn per card is blegh. Up it to 200 and we'll talk. Why people think 1000 burn is a lot I'll never know. Attack gain is fine as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nede Posted September 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name='raaabr' timestamp='1317035120' post='5541698']You have tons of pyro monsters in your graveyard and one on the field other than Flamvell servant. You use Servant's effect. If the opponent does not instantly lose, then the attack of the other monster will win you the duel. Seems OPed to me.[/quote] If I have tons, if I don't? Usually, if I duel, the maximum monsters in my Graveyard are 10, never been more than 10. But, since you said it's OPed, do you have any suggestions to make this card balanced?[quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1317035481' post='5541707']100 burn per card is blegh. Up it to 200 and we'll talk. Why people think 1000 burn is a lot I'll never know. Attack gain is fine as is.[/quote] 200 burn per card but 100 ATK gain? How about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 That's what I had in mind yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raaabr Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Maybe change the effect so you can special summon one Pyro monster with attack equal to or less than the damage done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nede Posted September 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name='raaabr' timestamp='1317035971' post='5541714']Maybe change the effect so you can special summon one Pyro monster with attack equal to or less than the damage done?[/quote] I don't know about that, Flamvell's Effects are involving Graveyard and ATK gaining, but your idea is brilliant , I think I'm going to use your idea, but not in this card, maybe if I make another Flamvell Support monster. Thanks for the suggestion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 [quote name='Hell Heat' timestamp='1317036641' post='5541722'] I don't know about that, Flamvell's Effects are involving Graveyard and ATK gaining, but your idea is brilliant , I think I'm going to use your idea, but not in this card, maybe if I make another Flamvell Support monster. Thanks for the suggestion! [/quote] Actually, mostly involves Synchro spam with cards like Firedog and Rekindling, which your card did fine anyway being a lvl 3 non tuner, which opens up lvl 9 synchro shenanigans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 well since it's only 200 burn per pyro, it's not likely going to get too much of a burn to that end the atk boosting effect at the end probably won't exceed 1000 anyway, so it should be balanced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nede Posted September 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Don't listen to the first poster, he doesn't know the game at all. This card is downright unusable right now, given little ATK increase is virtually pointless, and burn effects are terrible outside OTKs/Fullburn. IMO Flame Spirit Ignis is way better, since it can actually inflict enough damage to end the game that turn, if you get the right field. And Flame Spirit Ignis is terrible. If you know Flamvells done right, you'll see that the only real good Flamvell monster is Flamvell Firedog. Others are pretty much mediocre; hell, if there were any other good Flamvells, they'd be Tier 0. Rekindling is easily the most broken SS support in the game, after all. An instant +4. Hilarious, even by top-tier standards. Even so, they wanted to make it. And how can they print such a broken card without metabreak? As it goes, they came up with the easiest way: Making the archetype overall bad. Back on topic, this isn't what Flamvells need. They rely solely on Firedog and Rekindling to bring out the best trump cards like the Cosmic Synchros and Trishula. This doesn't have any synergy with the concept whatsoever; it's far from what they want. I'm not pro on Flamvells, but I have a vague idea on them. If I were to make Flamvell support, I'd make their own Dark Grepher. This is all your choice, so I'm not gonna say any more, but one thing sure here is that this card doesn't benefit the archetype. Nice pic, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nede Posted September 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 [quote name='Darkplant - FEAR' timestamp='1317129319' post='5543484']Don't listen to the first poster, he doesn't know the game at all. This card is downright unusable right now, given little ATK increase is virtually pointless, and burn effects are terrible outside OTKs/Fullburn. IMO Flame Spirit Ignis is way better, since it can actually inflict enough damage to end the game that turn, if you get the right field. And Flame Spirit Ignis is terrible. If you know Flamvells done right, you'll see that the only real good Flamvell monster is Flamvell Firedog. Others are pretty much mediocre; hell, if there were any other good Flamvells, they'd be Tier 0. Rekindling is easily the most broken SS support in the game, after all. An instant +4. Hilarious, even by top-tier standards. Even so, they wanted to make it. And how can they print such a broken card without metabreak? As it goes, they came up with the easiest way: Making the archetype overall bad. Back on topic, this isn't what Flamvells need. They rely solely on Firedog and Rekindling to bring out the best trump cards like the Cosmic Synchros and Trishula. This doesn't have any synergy with the concept whatsoever; it's far from what they want. I'm not pro on Flamvells, but I have a vague idea on them. If I were to make Flamvell support, I'd make their own Dark Grepher. This is all your choice, so I'm not gonna say any more, but one thing sure here is that this card doesn't benefit the archetype. Nice pic, though.[/quote] Dark Grepher Flamvell Version huh? I think I got an idea, I'll change it tomorrow, then tell me what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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