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legal slifer (IMO)


Sorin Markov

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Lore: You must Tribute 3 monsters to Normal Summon this card (you cannot Set this card). The Normal Summon of this card cannot be negated. When this card is Normal Summoned, Spell/Trap Cards and card effects other than it's own cannot be activated. If this card is Special Summoned from the Graveyard, it is sent to the Graveyard during the End Phase. While face-up on the field, this card is unaffected by card effects. The ATK and DEF of this card are each equal to the number of cards in your hand ×1000. When a monster(s) is Summoned face-up on your opponent’s side of the field, decrease its ATK or DEF by 2000 points, based on its battle position. If the ATK or DEF is decreased to 0 by this effect, destroy the monster(s).

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Because this effect is basically the animes, and having your opponents monsters attack decrease while yours can be up to 5000 is overpowered. 99.9% of all monsters will have a lower attack than this cards after that effect, and because its not affected by other cards effects, its wasy too broken to be honest.

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[quote name='Ænema' timestamp='1320243634' post='5612839']
Because this effect is basically the animes, and having your opponents monsters attack decrease while yours can be up to 5000 is overpowered. 99.9% of all monsters will have a lower attack than this cards after that effect, and because its not affected by other cards effects, its wasy too broken to be honest.
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Ra effect was broken until they down grade it alot, it crush a lot of ra fans hearts because of that

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i'd say that the effect would have basicly be 3 monsters to tribute, can't be special summoned or set, effects don't activate the turn it is normal summoned, stays around for one turn coming from the graveyard after being sent there, atk is determined by number of cards X 1000, and make a payment for decreasing a monster's attack by 2000. That really dumbs it down i'd say.

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This is really similar to the original Slifer (which I suppose your idea was), so therefore it almost makes it impossible to make it legal (well, not legal, just not overpowered as heck), unless you add a few downsides (which there are, but not enough).
Honestly though, just copying off a real card and altering it a touch isn't really original.
I like the picture though.

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[quote name='Sorin Markov' timestamp='1319843488' post='5605121']Lore: You must Tribute 3 monsters to Normal Summon this card (you cannot Set this card). The Normal Summon of this card cannot be negated. When this card is Normal Summoned, Spell/Trap Cards and card effects other than it's own cannot be activated. If this card is Special Summoned from the Graveyard, it is sent to the Graveyard during the End Phase. [b]While face-up on the field, this card is unaffected by card effects LOLNO.[/b] The ATK and DEF of this card are each equal to the number of cards in your hand ×1000. When a monster(s) is Summoned face-up on your opponent’s side of the field, decrease its ATK or DEF by 2000 points, based on its battle position. [b]If the ATK or DEF is decreased to 0 by this effect, destroy the monster(s)LOLNO.[/b]
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Mah fix:
You must Tribute 3 monsters to Normal Summon this card (you cannot Set this card). The Normal Summon of this card cannot be negated. When this card is Normal Summoned, Spell/Trap Cards and card effects other than it's own cannot be activated. If this card is Special Summoned from the Graveyard, it is sent to the Graveyard during the End Phase. While face-up on the field, [b]this card cannot be targetted by card effects[/b]. The ATK and DEF of this card are each equal to the number of cards in your hand ×1000. When a monster(s) is Summoned face-up on your opponent’s side of the field, [b]halven its ATK.[/b]


Because duh.

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Here is a better effect for you guys. A litte improved version that makes it balanced enough to be Legal. Maybe take it as a basis or whatever.

Effect: This card cannot be Set or Special Summoned. This card cannot be Normal Summoned except by Tributing 3 Dragon-Type monsters. The Normal Summon of this card cannot be negated. While face-up on the field, this card cannot be targetted by card effects. This card is treated as a Dragon-Type monster. The ATK and DEF of this card are each equal to the number of cards in your hand x 1000. While this card is face up on your side of the field, you opponent cannot select another Dragon-Type monster as an attack target.

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[quote name='Maynard Kemp' timestamp='1320926652' post='5630526']
Here is a better effect for you guys. A litte improved version that makes it balanced enough to be Legal. Maybe take it as a basis or whatever.

Effect: This card cannot be Set or Special Summoned. This card cannot be Normal Summoned except by Tributing 3 Dragon-Type monsters. The Normal Summon of this card cannot be negated. While face-up on the field, this card cannot be targetted by card effects. This card is treated as a Dragon-Type monster. The ATK and DEF of this card are each equal to the number of cards in your hand x 1000. While this card is face up on your side of the field, you opponent cannot select another Dragon-Type monster as an attack target.
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y u no laik legal Obelisk

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[quote name='Darkfire98989' timestamp='1321090558' post='5634435']
Legal slifer is easy, just repeat legal obelisk's effects but change the monster destroyer one of obelisk tot he attack gain one of slifer, done and done. Attack loss one is so unbalanced.
Also where the hell did the dragon realted effects come from?
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He doesn't know how it works. Probably.

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an ok card 6/10. but the original slifer the sky dragon had and attack and defence of X000.
but ignoring that,it is a good card,(i hope they make a legal slifer soon).
i know how to balance slifer's effect about destroying monster(s) with less than 2000 attack or defence: make it so that if your opponent special summons a monster(s),destroy the monster(s) summoned that have less than 2000 attack or defence(depending on position).

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[quote name='Twilight Sparkle' timestamp='1321117761' post='5634944']
Which is completely improper OCG and ? is proper. Thank you, goodbye.
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the official slifer the sky dragon has X000.
my proof is this: [img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Cards/5864.JPG[/img]
Slifer the Sky Dragon

[b][ Divine-Beast ][/b]
[i]The heavens twist and thunder roars, signaling the coming of this ancient creature, and the dawn of true power.[/i]
[left] [b]Level 10[/b] [img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img] [b]Attribute[/b] Divine [img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Divine.png[/img] [b]Attack[/b] X000 [b]Defense[/b] X000 [/left] S0000001 Secret Rare

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[quote name='optimus327prime' timestamp='1321118460' post='5634971']
the official slifer the sky dragon has X000.
my proof is this: [img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Cards/5864.JPG[/img]
Slifer the Sky Dragon

[b][ Divine-Beast ][/b]
[i]The heavens twist and thunder roars, signaling the coming of this ancient creature, and the dawn of true power.[/i]
[left] [b]Level 10[/b] [img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img][img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Level.png[/img] [b]Attribute[/b] Divine [img]http://www.planetyugioh.com/Images/Divine.png[/img] [b]Attack[/b] X000 [b]Defense[/b] X000 [/left]
S0000001 Secret Rare
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OCG has changed a lot since the first couple of cards. X000 right now is considered improper.

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