Just Crouton Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 [IMG]http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac187/Deraj_2010/SangaIdol.jpg[/IMG] [color=#ff8c00][b]Sanga Idol[/b][/color] This card's name is treated as "Sanga of the Thunder". When you Normal Summon or Special Summon this card, you can add 1 "Kazejin" from your Deck to your hand. Once per turn, if you control a face-up "Sanga of the Thunder", "Kazejin", and "Suijin": You can add 1 "Gate Guardian" from your Deck to your hand. [IMG]http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac187/Deraj_2010/HyugaIdol.jpg[/IMG] [color=#ff8c00][b]Hyuga Idol[/b][/color] This card's name is treated as "Kazejin". When you Normal Summon or Special Summon this card, you can add 1 "Suijin" from your Deck to your hand. Face-up "Sanga of the Thunder", "Kazejin", and "Suijin" you control gain 300 ATK. [IMG]http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac187/Deraj_2010/SugaIdol.jpg[/IMG] [color=#ff8c00][b]Suga Idol[/b][/color] This card's name is treated as "Suijin". When you Normal Summon or Special Summon this card, you can add 1 "Sanga of the Thunder" from your Deck to your hand. Once per turn, while you control "Sanga of the Thunder" and/or "Kazejin"; You can target 1 face-up monster your opponent controls; halve that monsters ATK until the End Phase. [IMG]http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac187/Deraj_2010/DarkMaster-GuardianofGate.jpg[/IMG] [color=#000000][b]Dark Master - Guardian of Gate[/b][/color] 3 Level 4 monsters Once per turn, during your opponent's damage calculation: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; Make the ATK of an opponent's attacking monster 0. During the End Phase of a turn in which this card was destroyed by your opponent's card (either by battle or by card effect): You can banish 1 "Sanga or the Thunder", "Kazejin", or "Suijin" from your Graveyard; Special Summon this card (from your Graveyard). If this card is Special Summoned this way: You can target 1 monster in your opponent's Graveyard; Attach it to this card as an Xyz Material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 shame this gate guardian has weaker atk than the original with regards to the effect for it to quickly return to the field, looks like it can't have so many XYZ attachments, so it should be fine, I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enguin Enguin Enguin Enguin Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Sorry if this comes out wrong, but I can't help feeling you copied the search effect off me. Anyway it's kind of confusing that they don't add each other. But the Gate Guardian is too weak. It's basically 3 tributes again, except for 1000 less ATK. Bump it up to 3200? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groniack Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 These are great Gate Guardian support. I would definitely use the Xyz monster since it is generic and has great stats and effect. [quote name='TheEnguinMaster' timestamp='1321814297' post='5655227'] Sorry if this comes out wrong, but I can't help feeling you copied the search effect off me. Anyway it's kind of confusing that they don't add each other. But the Gate Guardian is too weak. It's basically 3 tributes again, except for 1000 less ATK. Bump it up to 3200? [/quote] Card is not underpowered [URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/frozenbeast.jpg/][IMG]http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4330/frozenbeast.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Don't forget number 10. It needs 3 monsters too and it is far weaker than this xyz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enguin Enguin Enguin Enguin Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 [quote name='groniack' timestamp='1321815300' post='5655257'] These are great Gate Guardian support. I would definitely use the Xyz monster since it is generic and has great stats and effect. Card is not underpowered [url="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/frozenbeast.jpg/"][img]http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4330/frozenbeast.jpg[/img][/url] Don't forget number 10. It needs 3 monsters too and it is far weaker than this xyz [/quote] I had never heard of Illuminknight........It is underpowered IMO because it's 3 monsters in one which I think should be a fusion instead of an Xyz. Making Gate Guardian a crappy rank 4 Xyz completely eliminates the need for the other support since your adding level 7s to your hand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 [quote name='TheEnguinMaster' timestamp='1321814297' post='5655227'] Sorry if this comes out wrong, but I can't help feeling you copied the search effect off me. Anyway it's kind of confusing that they don't add each other. But the Gate Guardian is too weak. It's basically 3 tributes again, except for 1000 less ATK. Bump it up to 3200? [/quote] No need to go that high, I was thinking 2800-3000 is enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 [quote name='TheEnguinMaster' timestamp='1321814297' post='5655227'] Sorry if this comes out wrong, [b]but I can't help feeling you copied the search effect off me[/b]. Anyway it's kind of confusing that they don't add each other. But the Gate Guardian is too weak. It's basically 3 tributes again, except for 1000 less ATK. Bump it up to 3200? [/quote] Not unless you created Green, Yellow, and Red Gadget. They [b]do [/b]add each other because their effects treat their names as the Gate Guardian pieces instead so the player can go into Gate Guardian quicker (lolultimateoffering). Dark Master's ATK is 2750 to match the Idols having 1000 less ATK and DEF than the cards they're based off of. Dark Master is based on the 3750 ATK Gate Guardian, thus, 2750 ATK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 ... So...he's easily summonable. The 3 guys you can use to summon him are easy to bring out. Moreover, he just needs and 3 Level 4 monsters. So just dump the 3 Pieces to the grave, use any 3 level 4's, bring this guy out. On top of that, he's pretty much indestructible. You can revive him 3 times with his own effect, each time stealing an opponent's monster in their grave, whilst giving him his effect once again. I say no to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 [quote name='Yankee' timestamp='1321840047' post='5656104'] ... So...he's easily summonable. The 3 guys you can use to summon him are easy to bring out. Moreover, he just needs and 3 Level 4 monsters. So just dump the 3 Pieces to the grave, use any 3 level 4's, bring this guy out. On top of that, he's pretty much indestructible. You can revive him 3 times with his own effect, each time stealing an opponent's monster in their grave, whilst giving him his effect once again. I say no to this. [/quote] Just make it's revival effect trigger when it's destroyed by battle? Only a stupid person would try to swing over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enguin Enguin Enguin Enguin Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 [quote name='~King Crouton~' timestamp='1321832984' post='5655853'] Not unless you created Green, Yellow, and Red Gadget. They [b]do [/b]add each other because their effects treat their names as the Gate Guardian pieces instead so the player can go into Gate Guardian quicker (lolultimateoffering). Dark Master's ATK is 2750 to match the Idols having 1000 less ATK and DEF than the cards they're based off of. Dark Master is based on the 3750 ATK Gate Guardian, thus, 2750 ATK. [/quote] I did not invent gadgets but like you I redid Gate Guardian and used the exact same adding effect so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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