Master White Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 [center]I'm sure they are op'd, but judge anyways, maybe I want to know how to fix them up so they would help them out, but not break them to much......[/center] [center] [img]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/236/trishonica.png[/img] [/center] [center][b]Lore[/b][/center] [center][i]2 level 4 Sea Serpent "Ice Barrier" monsters.[/i][/center] [center] [i]This card cannot be Xyz Summoned except by attaching the above materials to a card you control instead. Once per turn, you can Detach 1 card from any card on the field except cards attached to a card by this cards effect; Banish 1 card from your opponents field, 1 card from your opponents hand, and 1 card in your opponents Deck. If this card would be removed from the field, you can attach it to 1 card you control.[/i][/center] [center]Proly op'd but you all choose [img]http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/365/exceedsexcitingfind.png[/img] [b]Lore[/b] [i]If an Xyz Material would be sent to the Graveyard: You can Attach it to this card instead.[/i] [img]http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4544/beyondexceedslimitskyli.png[/img] [b]Lore[/b] While this card remains on the field: Once per turn, you can Detach 1 Xyz Material from an card you control: You can Xyz Summon 1 Xyz monster from your Extra Deck using 1 less Xyz Material Monster. Now you all can Hate Xyz's even more....Mwhahaha....[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 1st card is a bit meh for attaching it to the trap doesn't really seem to do anything afterwards, and XYZ materials I thought needed to be detached from specific monsters to trigger effecrs even in the case with the 2nd one, yes it helps XYZ summoning a lot, but only for as long as Find is on the field all your opponent needs is MST to get around it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 @Rag: You really got lost, didn't you? 1st one is suppose to help the 2nd one....I;e meaning you could use the second one, but you'd lose the Xyz Materials monsters effect. Hence why the 1st one comes in play, so you could spam 3 Xyz Material Monsters out, and attach all of them to the 1st card when you use the Xyz's Effects, wait for the 2nd trap to come out, and boom, more Xyz Spamming, in most cases would get hellaciously op'd pretty quick if you ask me.....But yes, mystical could destroy it, unless you are smart and play some staples and stuff, these were solely designed to benefit decks that help bring out Hamon and etc...... If still up'd, I might add an effect or 2 to both.....I was trying to bring in the ohter people anyhow, but thanks for the comments... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Anyone....Bump: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Pretty mediocre considering that Laggia is useless with the second card. Same with Dolkka. Zenmaines becomes pretty horrible to be honest. Utopia immediately loses any status it has. etc. All of them want Xyz Materials. Making it easier makes them significantly worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 @Rai: Oh, okay, then maybe I should bring the monster out that will abuse these 2 cards senseless then? So, you are meaning that b/c these make it easy to bring them out quicker without needing attachements, they still need them for the effects? Okay, I'll make somthing to use these then.....I did actually not think on that.....My epic fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 [quote name='Skylie' timestamp='1323808451' post='5704418'] @Rai: Oh, okay, then maybe I should bring the monster out that will abuse these 2 cards senseless then? So, you are meaning that b/c these make it easy to bring them out quicker without needing attachements, they still need them for the effects? Okay, I'll make somthing to use these then.....I did actually not think on that.....My epic fail [/quote] Make an Xyz that benefits from having no Materials, and then you can proceed at winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 @Rai: Well, I would, but wouldn't that have to be op'd to do it? Well, I'll give it a try.....Better to try then not to try.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Bumpity Bump....Op'd Xyz....Please help me fix it a tad bit better....thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Can you list any Level 4 Dragon-Type Ice Barrier monsters, because I have a hard time remembering any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 @Fether: Brionac and legendary Ocean or 2 Level Tunings or 2 Star Blasts or 2 Level Returners....I WIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Skylie' timestamp='1323893919' post='5706701'] @Fether: Brionac and legendary Ocean or 2 Level Tunings or 2 Star Blasts or 2 Level Returners....I WIN [/quote] ahem. [img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110828091645/yugioh/images/thumb/4/4a/Brionac%2CDragonoftheIceBarrierDT01-EN-DUPR-DT.jpg/300px-Brionac%2CDragonoftheIceBarrierDT01-EN-DUPR-DT.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 @Rai: Again, its level 6, use 2 of them, plus 2 cards that I specifically stated that reduces the monsters level by 2 or 1 depending on the card and you can then properly Xyz Summon....Can't you all read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Skylie' timestamp='1323894648' post='5706763'] @Rai: Again, its level 6, use 2 of them, plus 2 cards that I specifically stated that reduces the monsters level by 2 or 1 depending on the card and you can then properly Xyz Summon....Can't you all read [/quote] Then you look at the type and you're just like yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 @Rai: Oops, my fualt, apparently I can't read, sorry, my fualt....Hmm......I guess I'll say Sea Serpent, would that be better? Then I'd need to change the pic and use yugico but it would work.....I just can't think why its a Sea-Serpent in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Skylie' timestamp='1323894870' post='5706782'] @Rai: Oops, my fualt, apparently I can't read, sorry, my fualt....Hmm......I guess I'll say Sea Serpent, would that be better? Then I'd need to change the pic and use yugico but it would work.....I just can't think why its a Sea-Serpent in the first place [/quote] Yes, in a nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Okay then, working on it, yugico will make it say Sea-Serpent for some stupid Reason though, hope that don't bother people to much.....Also, looking for new picture.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted December 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Hello, isn't now over powered beyond extent? If so, I'd like to fix that.... KK, updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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