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Brandon Michael Geren Newbie

Brandon Michael Geren

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*These points are possibilities which I'm currently unsure about.

 

Forbidden:

• BLS - Should be self explanatory. They really failed on trying to create a more diverse format with this, thought there's no point in bothering to argue about it. Just put it to 0 and be done with it.

• Brionac - Should also be self explanatory. With CotH at 2, this thing becomes even more goddamn annoying since you can recycle your Call. Also has far too much versatility for what it is and should not have been kept at limited.

[*• Future Fusion - Mega Foolish Burial on steroids that has a ton of loops when done right. Don't feel like going into it, but this might be a little bit more balanced if Brionac is to go. Konami may also ban this for future thinking about the new Chaos Dragons and such.

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*• FGD - No Dragon Target = No Abuse with Chaos Dragons. Preemptive thinking again on Konami's part if they do this.]

 

Limited:

• Rescue Rabbit - Doesn't really need an explanation, but hitting the rabbit will help reduce the chances of drawing into it at least. Might possibly be banned, but eh.

• Agent of Mystery, Earth - Lowers the consistency of Agents since they can't grab Venus as quickly and other stuff like that. Limit this so that they only have 1 searcher instead of 3.

• Archlord Kristya - Doesn't need an explanation also, seeing as how this nearly completely stops all of your opponent's plays by making it so that they can't get over the wall of things which you have now managed to amount to.

• Grapha, Dragon God of Dark World - If Konami leave this at 3 they're f**king retarded.

 

Semi-Limited:

Not sure about this yet.

 

Unlimited:

• Magical Stone Excavation - Not good any more, so why not just put it back to 3 for the lulz?

 

Hit bad decks but not plants?

 

Tsukuyomi: At worst, Morphing Jar Deck Out becomes playable again.

Book of Moon: Wouldn't really change gameplay much. Makes Morphing Jar Deck Out credible with Tsukuyomi.

 

Have you not played Empty Jar? Paul Cooper top 4'd last format with 1 BoM and 0 Tsukuyomi. I've played the deck and it frankly doesn't need either.

 

Tsukyomi can go to 1. Honestly, Mask of Darkness is the card it can abuse the most, and that's rarely used because it's slow. Problem is that the combo of Mask + Tsukyomi + Drastic Drop Off/similar is too good, so if this came back, Mask would have to go.

 

Book of Moon is fine at 1. We'd love it back in multiples, though. If Tsukuyomi came back, this would be banned, though.

 

 

The Yata-lock thing is terrible. You need to protect either Mask or Tsuku and you pretty much lose. Plus, another argument is replace Tsuku in that combo with Mist Valley Falcon. Now you can do the exact same thing, except use a bigger beater that doesn't suck as much.

 

Without brio the format dies. Ban something bad for the game like Leviair.

 

I actually like this :L

 

Because, you know, some people don't like Heavy Storm.

 

Trunade is even worse. Are you obtuse? Last format I was one of those Set 5 go guys but now I never do that. I hold on to cards and don't use them early game.

 

-Banned

 

Monsters

Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning (from limited)

Lonefire Blossom (from limited)

Sangan (from limited)

 

Spells

One for One (from limited)

 

Traps

Trap Dustshoot (from limited)

 

-Limited

 

Traps

Royal Oppression (from forbidden)

 

-Semi-Limited

 

Monsters

Rescue Rabbit (from unlimited)

Dandylion (from limited)

 

Spells

Book of Moon (from limited)

 

Unlimited

 

Primal Seed (from limited)

 

Forbidden (asterisks denote ideas I'm not completely supporting but are ideas)

 

BLS-EOTB - Obvious change, BLS is a game winner on its own and shouldn't have been brought back in the first place

Lonefire Blossom - Executes several plant combos and is just unbalanced with recursion cards and Leviair

Sangan - It's not extremely overpowered, but too good with the existence of Tour Guide. I'm only leaning towards this because Konami is pushing Tour Bus From the Underworld and they might suggest it as an alternative. I'm not 100% sure with this idea though.

One for One - The card is really unbalanced and is one of the main Plant win conditions. Of course Maxx "C" is a good counter, but that doesn't keep this card from being unbelievably game winning

 

Limited

 

Royal Oppression - I feel like it needs to come back to make the format slightly healthier. There's Heavy Storm and the extensive availability of MST to counter it, too. Also, no Trunade to prevent yourself from being shut down by this for a turn

*Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World - it's a viable card to hit, but Dark Worlds haven't been prominent in the OCG and aren't that good in the TCG either. Obviously it's poorly designed but Konami has a tendency of not hitting those cards

*Master Hyperion - It's an idea, stops the sackyness of Agents and makes them rely on Venus plays

*The Agent of Creation - Venus - This is the alternative, and it really hits Agents if they lose this

 

Semi-Limited

 

Dandylion - One for One and Lonefire are gone, and Debris is still at one. It would be neat to see this card used with older cards like Quickdraw again.

Rescue Rabbit - I wouldn't expect a harsh hit towards Rabbit, but it's the only card to hit for this decktype and it's a pretty stupid card

Book of Moon - It would provide more counters to cards such as TKRO, TGU, and Tengu. It'd be interesting to see it come back

 

 

Finally someone intelligent enough to suggest Sangan getting banned instead of Tour Guide. Of course, this doesn't screw over Tour Guide at all, but it requires people to run worse cards to Summon Tour Guide as consistently, which is good.

 

I also rather enjoyed your Dandylion argument because Quickdraw is pretty cool.

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Alrighty.

 

I would like the Evolzars to be hit. They are ran usually in 2's, so put Laggia at 1. Dolkka won't be hit, it's TCG only. I would also like Tour Guide hit, but again, it's TCG only. I think that the wind up loop needs to go. Get rid of hunter to kill the loop. That way, Wind Ups are still playable. But even thus, they will be good, I think. Maybe rat ---> 2? As for inzektors, I haven't seen much hate for them. I played them a lot before they were popular, but now that they are, I've stopped. Hornet isn't the issue, folks! It's dragonfly. While Hornet is good, it's easily searched out, be it through insect imitation, heart of clear water, or another method. While I like the Inzektors as an archtype, they are very good. But don't get discouraged. Remember infernity, and the issues they had with the side deck? Inzektors are easily sided against. Skill Drain... Shadow imprisoning mirror. Macro Cosmos. Etc. So if they get hit, fine. If not, fine.

 

Sorry for that long spiel.

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Alrighty.

 

I would like the Evolzars to be hit. They are ran usually in 2's, so put Laggia at 1. Dolkka won't be hit, it's TCG only. I would also like Tour Guide hit, but again, it's TCG only. I think that the wind up loop needs to go. Get rid of hunter to kill the loop. That way, Wind Ups are still playable. But even thus, they will be good, I think. Maybe rat ---> 2? As for inzektors, I haven't seen much hate for them. I played them a lot before they were popular, but now that they are, I've stopped. Hornet isn't the issue, folks! It's dragonfly. While Hornet is good, it's easily searched out, be it through insect imitation, heart of clear water, or another method. While I like the Inzektors as an archtype, they are very good. But don't get discouraged. Remember infernity, and the issues they had with the side deck? Inzektors are easily sided against. Skill Drain... Shadow imprisoning mirror. Macro Cosmos. Etc. So if they get hit, fine. If not, fine.

 

Sorry for that long spiel.

 

I'd say that Inzektors NEED to get hit! They are way too strong. First off I think that Hornet should be banned, but even without hornet, Inzektors are still top tier (I tested it on DN!), but since you don't want to screw the archtype up, I'd say to semi-limit both dragonfly and centibeet. That will keep their playability, but with that, they will at least get a little easier to beat.

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Stop playing bad people.

 

Inzektors are not as broke as you seem to think.

 

Yes they are top tier, but they can be played around.

 

And if anything Limit Dragonfly.

 

Then they have a harder time comboing.

 

This.

 

Playing on DN is not at all like playing IRL, if you didn't know. You're gonna run into more rogue decks, less top teir decks. You will find more people that aren't as good. Why? Because they don't have to physically make the investment to go somewhere to play. Anyway, back on topic. I dunno how much the new cards from Order of Chaos will get hit. If anything, I think either hunter or zenmaighty needs to go. Having your entire hand taken away before you make a move is an almost guaranteed loss.

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With TCG not able to be hit aside...

 

Banned:

BLS

Monster Reborn

Legendary Shi En

Rekindling

Mind Control

 

Limited:

Spirit Reaper

TGU

JD

Zenmaity

Zenmaines

 

Semi:

Tengu

 

This is my opinion of what SHOULD change on the list. Of course Konami doesnt really use logic half the time. Sometimes i think they just go "hey dude, we should totally put CED back in the game. It would be hilarious."

 

Legendary Shi En is just a broke card. Not even good at 1. First turn every time no problem. Endless negates...

Monster Reborn is just too easy. Big monsters have requirements that people have to meet to summon them. Monster Reborn is just like "Win Card" around late game.

BLS, i thought it could come back in September, and i knew i would, but when it came i was like what have i done?!

Rekindling just because lavals have 4 Return from the D.D., and they are abused. Even at 1 it would just be a super luck win card.

Reaper, people usually just use 1, but anti-meta/slow decks like to abuse this card. I think its best at 1.

TGU, nuff said.

I put JD because its just broke by itself. I know lightsworns suck now and all it would do is make them suck more, but they're just a bad deck all about the luck of the draw/mil and they shouldnt be able to win just because of how your deck came up. S'not fair. I know thats how yugioh is (how your deck comes up), but it seems like theres no in between with lightsworns.

Zenmaity, see hunter...

Zenmaines because of how easy it is to summon and how hard it is to get off the field. I didnt ban it because its kinda like trishula; standing on the line of broke/not. You can easily take it out with certain cards, but in the meta there just isnt room for cards to do that (with BLS gone of course, being that it is only at 1 now).

Tengu to 2 because its just an endless engine of synchroing/defense/tribute fodder/etc. that you can put in almost any deck. At 2 it would still be sorta kinda usable, but it wouldnt be worth using in alot of top decks, and if it was used it would be fair.

 

I havent touched on inzectors because im just not that farmiliar with them right now. I look forward to seeing them IRL, and i did see inzectors before they came out, but no one ever beat me on DN with them/I've never seen a good build so i never really gave them a chance, but they look interesting. I just havent had the time to get into them.

I didnt touch on dark worlds because i just dont know where to begin. They seem rather on the inconsistant side to me, and i know grapha is the broke boss of the deck giving +1 to all the children of the world, but its not bannable to me. At 2 dark worlds would still not have to worry that much, and putting it to 1 would just be mean. Theres Gates too...

Brio is a very good card, but when i play all i can think about is card advantage, and although you can clear the field, if you dont get game all you did was put the cards back into the players hand, and you lost however many cards you bounced. You put synchros/xyzs back which is 1 for 1, but i think thats a fair advantage to brio, but i dont think brio (in all) is fair. Brio wins games, but at the same time i just cant see the game right now without it. I wouldnt be suprized seeing it gone, and it would be cool because i dont have one haha

Everyones talking about future fusion. Its another one of those broke/not cards. I wouldnt care either way if it was banned or not. Every deck i use it in the card is just if i dont draw it whatever if i do cool. It is a limited usage painful choice for alot of decks though, and painful is banned, so i guess with that logic it should be banned.

At my locals and from random people on here i keep hearing sangan should be banned. NO. Not even a little. Why dont you ban every searcher in the game? I know sangan is a searcher that works for almost every deck (if you have 1500 atk monsters, which most do), but alot of decks dont have searchers, and i dont think its bad at all. Thats almost like wanting to ban card trooper IMO. Yea sangan is specific, but the card you draw from card trooper could be anything. I dont think witch should come back because thats like almost all monsters lol.

Book should stay at 1. It has so many different uses. Stop effect, stop attack, switch to D, etc.

I would like to see one of the 3 limited blackwing cards to go to 2, but i just cant see them doing it. I was thinking kalut, but everyones like noooo. I dont think kalut is that bad. Everyone compares it to honest for obvious reasons, but i dont think its as bad. But yea, they should probably just stay at 1...

Mind Control is rather iffy. I dont think its fair at all. It doesnt bother me that much, but it is a free -1 to the opponent. You have to synch with it or they get it back, but you can synch, or just move a big monster out of the way. Its mechanics are just stupid. All of the control cards are. You know what, im putting it on the list lol...

 

TL;DR... :(

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With TCG not able to be hit aside...

 

Banned:

BLS

Monster Reborn

Legendary Shi En

Rekindling

Mind Control

 

Limited:

Spirit Reaper

TGU

JD

Zenmaity

Zenmaines

 

Semi:

Tengu

Bolded won't happen because they are not abused and their decks don't ruin the game and top at all.
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IIRC,Japan is getting a special tin in February for some reason. Zenmaines and TGU will be in OCG in February, so they'll have a month to figure out what to do with them.

the OCG Gold Series that came out in mid-January has Zenmaines, and what was the source for that because i don't remember/know anything about a special tin in February for OCG, and thus TGU would come out in September in that Extra Pack

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IIRC,Japan is getting a special tin in February for some reason. Zenmaines and TGU will be in OCG in February, so they'll have a month to figure out what to do with them.

I haven't heard a damn thing about TGU, nor have I heard about any new Extra Pack, so I highly doubt your source.
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