Darth Revan of the Sith Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1324404824' post='5719218'] All US enemies are falling? Is the Bay of Pigs finally kicking in? Can we use this momentum to tackle the Economy? Who will take the helm? Wasn't Kin Jong-Il supposedly immortal? Its like watching a TV drama! I'm kinda sad, because he did some of the craziest things. [/quote] Yet was one of the most successful communist leaders to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 [quote name='Izaya Orihara' timestamp='1324404986' post='5719220'] Yet was one of the most successful communist leaders to date. [/quote] I'm sorry, what? I'm from America and the only kind of Communism is bad Communism, you think I'm Russian or something? =P [/stereotypes] I couldn't tell you, I'm not even the slightest informed on North Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travie Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1324405362' post='5719228'] I couldn't tell you, I'm not even the slightest informed on North Korea. [/quote] Hardly anyone is well informed on North Korea as Kim Jong Il isolated the country from non-North Koreans for 14 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1324404824' post='5719218'] All US enemies are falling? Is the Bay of Pigs finally kicking in? Can we use this momentum to tackle the Economy? Who will take the helm? Wasn't Kin Jong-Il supposedly immortal? Its like watching a TV drama! I'm kinda sad, because he did some of the craziest things. [/quote] A drama that ends up the whole US getting blown to smithereens. I bet we're gonna try to democratize North Korea now. inb4itactuallyhappens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 [quote name='Izaya Orihara' timestamp='1324404986' post='5719220'] Yet was one of the most successful communist leaders to date. [/quote] But he sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travie Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 [quote name='Kitty' timestamp='1324406335' post='5719266'] A drama that ends up the whole US getting blown to smithereens. I bet we're gonna try to democratize North Korea now. inb4itactuallyhappens. [/quote] What's so bad about the US getting blown up? :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 [quote name='Travie' timestamp='1324407100' post='5719284'] What's so bad about the US getting blown up? :3 [/quote] I live there.... and I like living. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 The US is where I keep my stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 "But speaking here in my capacity as a polished, sophisticated European as well, it seems to me the laugh here is on the polished, sophisticated Europeans. They think Americans are fat, vulgar, greedy, stupid, ambitious and ignorant and so on. And they‘ve taken as their own, as their representative American, someone who actually embodies all of those qualities." ~Christopher Hitchens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 You all post bad videos. Lemme fix it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_-PIpYpIfQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yang Xiao-Long Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 He died at 69 years of age. Heh. 69. ... *nuked* [quote name='Izaya Orihara' timestamp='1324404986' post='5719220'] Yet was one of the most successful communist leaders to date. [/quote] You're saying that isolating your country from others, expanding military, and building nukes instead of feeding your people make him successful? Oh right, that's how Communists do it; no wonder he was successful. As for his son, we know very little about him. And he's going to be in charge of nukes. New dictators have a tendency to be even more harsh in the first few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 [quote name='Τrain Heartnet' timestamp='1324408149' post='5719320'] You're saying that isolating your country from others, expanding military, and building nukes instead of feeding your people make him successful?[/quote] For himself this was all very successful. [quote]Oh right, that's how Communists do it; no wonder he was successful. [/quote] "Communists", sure. The actual implementation is a far-right dictatorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinnamonStar Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Of course things are two-sided and it would be wrong to believe only what the Western media say. But believing all these "the US are evil, they're just twisting things around everywhere!" news isn't much smarter (and I'm not even from the US). We hardly know anything about the country, however the only thing that got me were the pictures and news of Kim and his family surrounded by tons of food and luxurious things, while his country...obviously doesn't have access to these things for the most part. That and the media censoring. While the South could learn quite a few things from their neighboors and tone their own media machine down, this is not practising what you're preaching. Meh, could care less about him, I'm mainly worried about the people.:/ Most of them loved him and just lost someone important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 People who mourned him were doing it at gunpoint. The only people who were genuinely sad were his family. If the citizens are sad it's because the new guy is incompotent. Calling America "horrible" and "the bad guys" is perfectly acceptable, and I live here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinnamonStar Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Cool for you, then keep doing it. On that note, I made the personal decision of not believing only the pro-[insert country here] or the anti-[insert something here] media because things aren't as simple as that. Meh I have a bad feeling about the new leader, whether he's incomp[b]o[/b]tent or not, we're going to see. Personally I'd have preferred to see the oldest son take the power, but that was unlikely since he isn't even interested into politics. Kim Jong-Un seems to have...ambitions though, but he really has no experience at all.:/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 he died as he lived causing people to cry and getting nothing of value accomplished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 [quote name='GreigaBeastDS' timestamp='1324428830' post='5720220'] Calling America "horrible" and "the bad guys" is perfectly acceptable, and I live here. [/quote] About as stupid as calling them "the good guys". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 [quote name='~Coolio~' timestamp='1324442885' post='5720579'] About as stupid as calling them "the good guys". [/quote] As Coolio put it. Every country has its ups and downs and every country has its own share of stupid. No country is good and no country is bad. Basically, we are all in the medium. If you constantly love America and agree with everything they do then you are a blind patriot.if you go around constantly insulting and berating America and not thinking of a single thing good about it, then you shouldn't be here. Too be honest, don't hate America, hate the people who make it what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 While I implied I dislikes it when people called America the "good guys", I don't think they're the bad guys either. It all depends on who you ask. Good and bad are also subjective, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFauKorean Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 oh wait I just remembered, although I contributed with this giant rant about, 1. not talking about politics because many us don't know anything about anything 2. only theories maybe placed, no matter how absurd these theories 3. regardless of how heavily based on absolute personal assumption these theories are. I Want to say something that is not directed specifically towards the event but more like this goes for all things this (insert the topic here) pertains to. in this case dictators and gods. compare the crusades and the war on terrorism with world war 2 and not truly a war but the north and south Korean conflict as of today (don't involve the Korean war in this because the leaders we're generalized as idealism's). okay now the crusades lasted 100+ years and this war was based on for the most part religion. and yes I know there were other factors and other sparks having almost nothing to do with religion but I'm gonna state that this was the main reason it continued for 100's of years. why? because they are fighting for something non-material or inanimate. which means you cant kill it. you cant kill god because it doesn't exist as a physical kill-able being. same for the war on terrorism, yes they do fight for LAND rights but and for the most part materialism and yes terrorist leaders are flesh and blood. but it never ends they fight for something "holy" something inanimate so this war on terrorism. not ending maybe in at least 30-40 more years. obviously it will end quicker than the crusades thanks to evolution in technology and rationality, but still it will last for a very looong time compared to..... in ww2 we have Hitler and Hirohito, there where others leaders in the axis powers but I like these examples best. Hitler was a man which created idealism. not so and so "god" assuming, that religion of the crusades existed long before the people of that time period and assuming the stories told them the laws we're made by god. its very different from Hitler screaming "mein kamph" yes he uses god as a support to his argument, but he could not directly claim its what he stated as law from the very beginning. so in a way Hitler became a flesh and blood god. you kill Hitler, you kill a god or if you decrease the morale of a god it can be seen. idealism's end the war ends in approximately 10 or so years much quicker than it would be for wars based on inanimate gods. this brings me to my last point. North Korea. K so I'm pretty heavy Korean. my Gramps came from the north and moved south went through the war, my dad was part of the baby boom right after events after the 38th parallel on both sides w/e. but I don't give a flying f*** who it is up there, if its a living breathing god, regardless of the man or title or competence. its gonna end. when kim-il-sung (kim-jungs father) died it literately ended for about 5 years. basically N. Korea had 5 years of absolutely nothing. when his son took his place, control over the people dropped considerably statistically. I mean they have f***ing numbers to prove it. numbers for escapes, conspires, solders everything. kim-jung-il dies we will again see north Korea is a state of limbo. possibly temporary but the damage takes its toll, they are all human. less control, less order more chaos. lets just say this allows windows for assassination attempts and lets just say that kim-jung-un was killed quite quickly during his reign. this lack of control increases at an exponential rate. eventually crumbles. to be honest i have no f***ing clue how that affects anyone else, or what comes of the after math or the people. but one thing I am certain with is something you don't need any knowledge of politics to answer. if the Kim's continue to remain as manifestations of gods they will collapse in on itself quite quickly. we may see it happen before we graduate college my friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='~Coolio~' timestamp='1324353390' post='5718477'] You're right, he was a good man. [/quote] [quote name='Ryūku' timestamp='1324338996' post='5718008'] Our people have killed hundreds of thousands of his civilians. [/quote] Hey I can quote things, too! America sucks. The government doesn't even hold its own constitution true for the most part. It's full if ignorant people (see: those hating on All American Muslims), lying politicians (do I even need to point you towards a direction with that?), and other horrible things. I hate America. I'd much rather live in Canada. Probably somewhere in Quebec YEAAAAH CANADA! Anyways, I'm getting off topic. The point I'm trying to make is that death/destruction shouldn't be a celebration of anything, unless that death/destruction was for the good of the people (i.e. Bastille Day). My humble guess is that things won't change, or if they do, they'll become worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Why does everyone love Canada so much? It doesn't seem [i]that[/i] great, tbh. Sure, America is [i]chock-full[/i] of ignorant power-hungry hypocritical bastards, but we do have our better qualities... as does every country. Well, except Scandinavia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Canada's just awesome. The government seems to have its s*** together. Plus I love the cold, so +1 Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='Ryūku' timestamp='1324514377' post='5722020'] Quebec [/quote] *bursts into laughter* If you don't know your French, that's a bad idea, since Quebec has invoked part of the constitution to remove English as an official language in the province. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Actually, the French culture and language is [i]why [/i]I would probably like Quebec. French culture fascinates me, and the food is delicious. Besides, it's not like I'm going anywhere until I'm finished highschool and college, and my then I'll have had at least four years a French. Heh, you wouldn't think I'd just randomly say Quebec, would you? ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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