·Toot Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 [center][img]http://i41.tinypic.com/2hgvme1.jpg[/img][/center] [center][quote] Activate by paying 1000 Life Points after a card you control was destroyed. You can target up to 3 Level 4 or lower monsters in your Graveyard and up to 3 cards in your hand: Return the targeted cards to your Deck to activate 1 of the following effects: •Draw 2 Cards. •Special Summon 1 Monster whose Level is equal to or lower than the number of cards added to your Deck by this Card.[/quote] How Is It? Op'ed? Lol OCG Fixes Appreciated.[/center] I was thinking of making this a trap... :3 I forgot to add that the Special Summoned monster is summoned from your deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Special Summon from where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted December 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 lol forgot to add that... its from your deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmepie Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 This is basically avarice on steroids. It would be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='♠Toot♠' timestamp='1324539127' post='5722848'] lol forgot to add that... its from your deck [/quote] Yeah, let's not make it from the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted December 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 [s]HELL YEAH IT WOULD[/s]... Nah... it'll be right next to avarice... lol[quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1324539477' post='5722850'] Yeah, let's not make it from the deck. [/quote]why not from the deck? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmepie Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Because from the deck gives you access to basically every card you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted December 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='gimmepie' timestamp='1324539657' post='5722852'] Because from the deck gives you access to basically every card you have. [/quote]Not every card :I ... *sobs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmepie Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Why is this card oped: For a mere 1000LP and a destroyed monster (which could be a searcher) you get to either summon a level 6 or lower monster from your deck OR you can have needed cards put back into your deck, useless stuff removed from your hand and +2 cards in your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted December 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='gimmepie' timestamp='1324539884' post='5722857'] Why is this card oped: For a mere 1000LP and a destroyed monster (which could be a searcher) you get to either summon a level 6 or lower monster from your deck OR you can have needed cards put back into your deck, useless stuff removed from your hand and +2 cards in your hand. [/quote]Who doesn't like a little umph... your opponent that's who... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='♠Toot♠' timestamp='1324539993' post='5722859'] Who doesn't like a little umph... your opponent that's who... lol [/quote] Last Will gave people a little umph, doesn't mean it's good card design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmepie Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 XD That is kinda my point. Sorry if I come across negatively but that's my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 "Activate by paying 1000 Life Points after a card you control is destroyed. Draw 2 cards." Forget Pot of Avarice; this looks suspiciously similar to Pot of Greed itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='gimmepie' timestamp='1324540505' post='5722864'] XD That is kinda my point. Sorry if I come across negatively but that's my opinion. [/quote] It's not an opinion if it's the only logical conclusion. [quote name='Crab Helmet' timestamp='1324540717' post='5722870'] "Activate by paying 1000 Life Points after a card you control is destroyed. Draw 2 cards." Forget Pot of Avarice; this looks suspiciously similar to Pot of Greed itself. [/quote] To quote Phineas and Ferb, "Yes, yes it does". EDIT: But I think my Last Will analogy was a little more spot on as it summons any monster from your deck when a monster is sent to the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmepie Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 yeah to some it all up-> Greed + Avarice + Last Will = This = Vastly Overpowered and containing the components of two banned cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted December 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='gimmepie' timestamp='1324540505' post='5722864'] XD That is kinda my point. Sorry if I come across negatively but that's my opinion. [/quote]Eh... its a fantasy card... doesn't matter lol And lobster cap... it kinda is like Greed... just way better lol jk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='gimmepie' timestamp='1324539430' post='5722849'] This is basically avarice on steroids. It would be banned. [/quote] you're being stupid. This card is a -4 from your hand if you set this counting the card itself. RC, Don't be stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='Shard' timestamp='1324545130' post='5722917'] you're being stupid. This card is a -4 from your hand if you set this counting the card itself. RC, Don't be stupid. [/quote] It says "up to", meaning that you can choose to do 3 if you want a level 6 monster, or 0 if you want a level 3. In other words, it's either a +1 or a blank check Special Summon. Again, if you could read, you wouldn't have embarassed yourself. And RC? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1324545353' post='5722922'] It says "up to", meaning that you can choose to do 3 if you want a level 6 monster, or 0 if you want a level 3. In other words, it's either a +1 or a blank check Special Summon. Again, if you could read, you wouldn't have embarassed yourself. And RC? Really? [/quote] It can be a -4... More to the point when would you have the resources for this and more to the point Inzecters not giving a f*** destroying all your backrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='Shard' timestamp='1324545441' post='5722924'] It can be a -4... More to the point when would you have the resources for this and more to the point Inzecters not giving a f*** destroying all your backrow. [/quote] Returning 1 Level 4 monster in your graveyard to your Deck draw to draw 2 cards or summon Glow-Up Bulb from your deck is balanced? That was a +1 that is easily accomplished in either case. And the Inzektor logic was ill informed as well. Call of the Haunted is a horrible card by the same logic. As is Solemn Warning and Torrential Tribute. Your it can be a -4 is also ridiculous logic. Machina Fortress can be a -8 if you summon it from your hand by dicarding exclusively level 1 monster, but nobody's going to do that, because that would be stupid, just like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Inzecters don't give a f*** and they're a meta deck. They'll just blow up your backrow and say "Come at me, bro." You need chainables. Or just Solemn the Fly or Centipede. [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1324546080' post='5722929'] but nobody's going to do that, because that would be stupid, just like you. [/quote] Oh lol, This reminds me why I play other games other than Yugioh. The playerbase arn't complete dicks. Listen, I read the card wrong. I didn't see it said "Up to" Everyone makes mistakes, so shut it. Your Machina Fortress argument was horrible. Why on god's green earth would I want to return 3 Monsters from my [b]hand[/b] to the deck? More to the point, with so much destruction this format it'll get destroyed before you can use it in a lot of situations. If you're playing Inzecters, Oh yea you might as well not have a backrow because they + of it. Oh, and just discard 2 fortresses or fort+another machine. Lol. Oh, and 141 does the Special Summoning thing better, just fyi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='Shard' timestamp='1324546549' post='5722933'] Inzecters don't give a f*** and they're a meta deck. They'll just blow up your backrow and say "Come at me, bro." You need chainables. Or just Solemn the Fly or Centipede.[/quote] Again, Call of the Haunted, Gates of the Underworld, and Starlight Road would disagree. Heck, by your logic, Royal Opression should be back because Inzektors can destroy it. [quote name='Shard' timestamp='1324546549' post='5722933'] Oh lol, This reminds me why I play other games other than Yugioh. The playerbase arn't complete dicks.[/quote] Yeah it's not like tis whole conversation was started because you were being a dick to gimmiepie. Oh wait... [quote name='Shard' timestamp='1324546549' post='5722933'] I didn't see it said "Up to" Everyone makes mistakes, so shut it. [/quote] You weren't going to shut it when you thought I had made a mistake. Heck, you still haven't put a cork in it [i]after [/i]you learned I hadn't. [quote name='Shard' timestamp='1324546549' post='5722933'] Your Machina Fortress argument was horrible. Why on god's green earth would I want to return 3 Monsters from my [b]hand[/b] to the deck? [/quote] You wouldn't; that's the point. Thus, you won't. My example got that across, but you won't admit it. Heck, you've even parroted back the message I told you. [quote name='Shard' timestamp='1324546549' post='5722933'] More to the point, with so much destruction this format it'll get destroyed before you can use it in a lot of situations. If you're playing Inzecters, Oh yea you might as well not have a backrow because they + of it. [/quote] See above. [quote name='Shard' timestamp='1324546549' post='5722933'] Oh, and just discard 2 fortresses or fort+another machine. [/quote] Just return 1 card from your Grave to your deck. [quote name='Shard' timestamp='1324546549' post='5722933'] Lol. Oh, and 141 does the Special Summoning thing better, just fyi. [/quote] Appearently 1-4-1 is a +0 now and can Special Summon Level 2 and 3 monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1324547624' post='5722940'] Again, Call of the Haunted, Gates of the Underworld, and Starlight Road would disagree. Heck, by your logic, Royal Opression should be back because Inzektors can destroy it. [/quote] They don't really care about non-chainables. I'm just saying it wouldn't see much play. I've dug myself into a hole [b]AGAIN.[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmepie Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 @NumberCruncher: don't worry too much about it Shard is always like that to me. Thanks anyway though @Shard: I agree I would rather just use one for one and set myself up for a sync than run this card. Bottom line: This card is over powered because it gives you the choice of +2 cards as well as returning needed cards from your grave to your deck, or a Last Will like effect (there is a reason last is banned people). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 In short, YCM got in a hissy fit because I misread a card on the internet. Oh how I love this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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