Darth Revan of the Sith Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w8dKOqLDLQ[/media] Do you value truth? And not TAA's truth, I mean in general. Do you value the concept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 I can't watch him. He shakes around the video way too much. Truth? meh, the concept is idealized. Truth is never 100% accurate. You can hope for a large probability of truth, but 100% accuracy of truth simply does not exist. Same thing applies to the concept of 'fair'. It just doesn't exist. Nothing is fair. Things can be fairer than being infinitely unfair, but infinitely fair is impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organized Chaos Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 Truth is meaningless in a world of lies. Truth is called truth because some view it as a lie. For if everyone believed it, then it would become fact. But there is no truth since there will always people who disagree. I like truth but people are just too ignorant to believ and to stray away from their choices and ideals. I like it when people tell the truth bit people never do. Truth is very valuable to me as it means you can trust that person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1324679792' post='5725920'] I can't watch him. He shakes around the video way too much. [/quote] I think he has ADHD or something /no evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 I value truth, but I only call something a fact, and therefore true if it's something 100% established (i.e. "we exist"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 Truth is opinionated and as Truth is supposed to be regarded as fact, this no longer makes it the truth. So no, I do not value the concept of "Truth". I simply value the concept of individual thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisa Kirisame-ze Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 Sure do. I'm known for being honest in the nicest way possible. I can't lie to people (unless like, a surprise birthday part is involved) and if I'm unable to say the truth, then I just don't bring the subject up or I'm able to be vague or hide things. I value the truth from others too. I don't make friends with liars. In fact, we have a girl at our school who's a compulsive liar (ex. She's French, but she's next in line to be Queen of England), and I put her in her place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 I value truth and honesty above all things. I guess you could call me a hypocrite because I am known to lie occasionally. I need to fix that. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 I value truth over anything. If I find out someone has been lying to me... Chances are I'll never forgive them. I probably would avoid talking to them, and I'd stop being friends. I can't stand lies, but it is something I'll have to live with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFauKorean Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 I value mutual understanding more than I do with truth truth is worthless if you know lying can be used for the best of intentions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindingTheEverlight Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Idgaf, tbh. How anything began is so far out if our reach, we'll never know real truth, and whether we value out or not, it really doesn't matter, we're not supposed to know, neither will we ever because, whether you're an atheist or not, truth does not matter. Truth is just nonsense no matter what part you follow, nobody will know, or even has the right to know any form of truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Instead of going into deep intellectual thought I'll just say, I do like when I'm not being constantly being lied too. However, I do believe that bending or flat out lying is called for in situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 I greatly value the truth. Most of you seem to be mixing up truth and fact which are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1324877218' post='5729732'] I greatly value the truth. Most of you seem to be mixing up truth and fact which are different. [/quote] AHA! [size=1]Was waiting for that one.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1324872417' post='5729662'] Instead of going into deep intellectual thought I'll just say, I do like when I'm not being constantly being lied too. However, I do believe that bending or flat out lying is called for in situation. [/quote] well there are lies which are acceptable given the situation therefore despite valuing truth, it shouldn't be valued 100% of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCyae Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 I love how I've seen no mention of [b]Reshiram[/b]. Dammit people. I am disappoint. /loljokes Truth is something often twisted. It is either used in its purest state to tell someone what really happened/is happening, or is made impure and instead told as a lie. In many occasions, a lie is merely the slightest tweek of the truth, the slightest ommision. As such, if you value truth, you also value it's impurer side, the side of lies. Or most of them. That's my belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1324877218' post='5729732'] I greatly value the truth. Most of you seem to be mixing up truth and fact which are different. [/quote] I'm not mistaking them. I'm merely saying the word can only apply to facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1324872417' post='5729662'] Instead of going into deep intellectual thought I'll just say, I do like when I'm not being constantly being lied too. However, I do believe that bending or flat out lying is called for in situation. [/quote] Couldn't have said it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Starrk Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Yes. Because lying get's you in a s*** hole that you cant get out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1324679792' post='5725920'] I can't watch him. He shakes around the video way too much. Truth? meh, the concept is idealized. Truth is never 100% accurate. You can hope for a large probability of truth, but 100% accuracy of truth simply does not exist. Same thing applies to the concept of 'fair'. It just doesn't exist. Nothing is fair. Things can be fairer than being infinitely unfair, but infinitely fair is impossible. [/quote] How is truth never 100% accurate? Proposition A: "There exists a color red." Proposition A': "There does not exist a color red." By simple logic, either A or A' is true. [quote name='NotSoSlenderMan' timestamp='1324679888' post='5725923'] Truth is meaningless in a world of lies. Truth is called truth because some view it as a lie. For if everyone believed it, then it would become fact. But there is no truth since there will always people who disagree. I like truth but people are just too ignorant to believ and to stray away from their choices and ideals. I like it when people tell the truth bit people never do. Truth is very valuable to me as it means you can trust that person. [/quote] Proposition A: "There exists a color red." Proposition A': "There does not exist a color red." By simple logic, either A or A' is true. How can truth be viewed as a lie in this situation? [quote name='Blazer Pleasures' timestamp='1324680230' post='5725938'] Truth is opinionated and as Truth is supposed to be regarded as fact, this no longer makes it the truth. So no, I do not value the concept of "Truth". I simply value the concept of individual thinking. [/quote] Proposition A: "There exists a color red." Proposition A': "There does not exist a color red." By simple logic, either A or A' is true. How can truth be opinionated in this situation? [quote name='Finding The Everlight' timestamp='1324870681' post='5729629'] Idgaf, tbh. How anything began is so far out if our reach, we'll never know real truth, and whether we value out or not, it really doesn't matter, we're not supposed to know, neither will we ever because, whether you're an atheist or not, truth does not matter. Truth is just nonsense no matter what part you follow, nobody will know, or even has the right to know any form of truth. [/quote] Proposition A: "There exists a color red." Proposition A': "There does not exist a color red." By simple logic, either A or A' is true. How can we not know real truth in this scenario? In regards to the topic, I dont mind being a skeptic epistemically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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