Oh, how far we've come.

[Tomiix]

[quote name='J-Max' timestamp='1324690993' post='5726299']
Most of these mindless Sheep are following the next Fad that comes round. People are even wearing their Trousers half way down their Legs. Absolutly pitiful XD
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You do realize where THAT "fad" came from right? It came from prisons. Where your pants low like that was a sign that you are a "receiver" if you know what I mean. Most kids my age think that its cool, but I find it ridiculously funny. As the people may remember. "You look like a fool with your pants on the ground!"

[Desu the Blue Nerd]

[quote name='Nightmare Zarkus' timestamp='1324940632' post='5730701']
there's so much hipster in this topic that it's mind-boggling
[color=#0000cd]Let me put on my kanye glasses and fedora for this one.[/color]

You can't blame the media because it panders to its audience,
[color=#0000cd]Well you can but that'd just be silly.[/color]
which pick up trends and fads before the media even displays them.
[color=#0000cd]It relays them to the general public.[/color]
It may distort them a bit, but the media is not to blame and thinking it is just because you see what it reflects shows that you really haven't thought that hard on the subject.
[color=#0000cd]I don't really see your point here. Are you trying to say media doesn't influence us or that it does? Because I think you just said that once Media shows us something we interpret it in some way based on how much we thought about it?[/color]

it's not unreasonable to say that it spreads these trends, but it certainly doesn't cause them.
[color=#0000cd]It's probably about 50/50. Sure things, become popular but doesn't media make just as much of that crap? Like jager or whatever sh*t. Wasn't that just a made up word in a song and now super popular? Isn't it pretty much the same deal for swagger? Don't forget the duggy. Those are from the media, right?[/color]
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[color=#0000cd]Seriously though, do people really not realize that Media does for a fact have an effect on us?[/color]

[Tomiix]

Media is and is not to blame. During teenage development (as my health textbook reads) teenagers try and find there own identity, even if doing so may cause harm to ones self or to others. Meaning that kids look at the shows and use them as influence for there own identity, that's why you see Snookie and Eminem clones everywhere. Some will grow out of it some wont. Compare this to like the 80's where everyone dressed like the gangs in Grease.

[Sunshine Jesse]

[quote name='Desperado Panda' timestamp='1324964631' post='5731618']
[color=#0000cd]Seriously though, do people really not realize that Media does for a fact have an effect on us?[/color]
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Trend shows up-> Media reflects it -> Trend spreads

and it obviously does but to call it the -main cause of society's problems- is short-sighted to an absurd level.

[Desu the Blue Nerd]

[quote name='Nightmare Zarkus' timestamp='1324978844' post='5731734']
Trend shows up-> Media reflects it -> Trend spreads

and it obviously does but to call it the -main cause of society's problems- is short-sighted to an absurd level.
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[color=#0000cd]Who said it was the main cause?[/color]

[Zimiri of the Muse]

First: I agree, and a good 'ol fasioned media crusade is the way to go.
But, I wear t-shirts and shorts in that type of weather (usually not that cold) not because its tough, its because I always feel really hot and hate feeling that way, so I dress like that because it is more comfortable.(which is why im inside in the summer)

[Mehmani]

A lot of mainstream media has become vacuous, patronizing and outright propaganda in some developed countries (not mentioning any names, but it's kind of obvious, I take it?). They underestimate the intelligence of the large youth bracket and so turn any and all articles into bland mush (the Science press is a very, very good example of this) in the vain hope that an already uninterested target audience might pay attention (they won't). The youth today are fickle and image-driven to the point that image is more important than talent. We live in a world that values style over substance, and this is visible in the Music industry, the fashion industry, the catering industry - spectacle has become more important than meaning, and so we suffer a lack in quality or depth. Imagine it as a balloon - a balloon with beautiful colours, pretty patterns and covered in LEDs. It tastes like pineapple and blueberries when you lick it. It smells like the finest perfume. But when you prick this balloon with the shiny, sharp needle of harsh reality - it pops. And there is nothing. There are no toys in this metaphorical Kinder egg. You are left with plain old air.

If you understood that metaphor (and it is a rather simple one), you get the point - today, everyone in the public eye has to be pretty. Television presenters were once hired for substance over style. Look at documentaries like the excellent [i]Civilization[/i] from the BBC, made several decades ago. Kenneth Clark was no spring chicken, but he really knew what he was talking about. David Attenborough is a rare survivor of the "prettiness purge" that was brought about in the 1980s. The elderly and the ugly are marginalized even in this "civilized" age because the old guard of the past generation are desperately trying to keep up with an ever-changing, deeply fickle new generation who often just don't care. The age of Enlightenment is over. The age of Image has begun. The power of the media is deeply underestimated. People like Max Clifford (a shrewd and fiercely intelligent man whom one has a lot of respect for) control what we hear and read. Rupert Murdoch influences the entire Western world. His FOX News channel has shaped American politics and reduced them to the most Far-Right, ignorant, ignoble nation in the developed world! His media power caused him to affect the results of my country the UK's general elections. He had our previous Prime Minister eating out of his hand, and our current one is a close friend and associate who hired an ex-News International Editor as an advisor.

[Tentacruel]

[quote name='Dт. Михаи́л Ботви́нник PчD' timestamp='1325349489' post='5740947']
A lot of mainstream media has become vacuous, patronizing and outright propaganda in some developed countries ([b]not mentioning any names[/b], but it's kind of obvious, I take it?). They underestimate the intelligence of the large youth bracket and so turn any and all articles into bland mush (the Science press is a very, very good example of this) in the vain hope that an already uninterested target audience might pay attention (they won't). The youth today are fickle and image-driven to the point that image is more important than talent. We live in a world that values style over substance, and this is visible in the Music industry, the fashion industry, the catering industry - spectacle has become more important than meaning, and so we suffer a lack in quality or depth. Imagine it as a balloon - a balloon with beautiful colours, pretty patterns and covered in LEDs. It tastes like pineapple and blueberries when you lick it. It smells like the finest perfume. But when you prick this balloon with the shiny, sharp needle of harsh reality - it pops. And there is nothing. There are no toys in this metaphorical Kinder egg. You are left with plain old air.

If you understood that metaphor (and it is a rather simple one), you get the point - today, everyone in the public eye has to be pretty. Television presenters were once hired for substance over style. Look at documentaries like the excellent [i]Civilization[/i] from the BBC, made several decades ago. Kenneth Clark was no spring chicken, but he really knew what he was talking about. David Attenborough is a rare survivor of the "prettiness purge" that was brought about in the 1980s. The elderly and the ugly are marginalized even in this "civilized" age because the old guard of the past generation are desperately trying to keep up with an ever-changing, deeply fickle new generation who often just don't care. The age of Enlightenment is over. The age of Image has begun. The power of the media is deeply underestimated. People like Max Clifford (a shrewd and fiercely intelligent man whom one has a lot of respect for) control what we hear and read. Rupert Murdoch influences the entire Western world. His [b]FOX News[/b] channel has shaped American politics and reduced them to the most Far-Right, ignorant, ignoble nation in the developed world! His media power caused him to affect the results of my country the UK's general elections. He had our previous Prime Minister eating out of his hand, and our current one is a close friend and associate who hired an ex-News International Editor as an advisor.
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You lied! D:

But yes, Murdoch is a creep. Even conservatives will tell you that.