Legend Zero Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 This thread isn't just for you to take a shot at the Bible, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1325956852' post='5752788'] This thread isn't just for you to take a shot at the Bible, correct? [/quote] That's just giving up :/ Which I kind of have to do until I can find some explanation that's biased towards us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1325956852' post='5752788'] This thread isn't just for you to take a shot at the Bible, correct? [/quote] But it is about slavery. Therefore the Bible is relevant in the conversation :I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Pikachu. Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='Anti-Theist' timestamp='1325916740' post='5752209'] And slavery is slavery. It is not just the old testament. There are some from the New Testament as well. Why are people still believing in a book that condones slavery? [/quote] I don't see why people even bother arguing with you. Your random use of capital letters and extremely loose logic gives an idea of what your intelligence is like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='.Pikachu.' timestamp='1325957386' post='5752808'] I don't see why people even bother arguing with you. Your random use of capital letters and extremely loose logic gives an idea of what your intelligence is like. [/quote] Why don't you post a counter argument instead of spouting useless rhetoric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 ITT: People who back up their arguments lack intelligence :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1325957910' post='5752823'] ITT: People who back up their arguments lack intelligence :/ [/quote] And how does that work? Evidence is crucial in proving an argument correct. If someone was to go around saying Christopher Colombus discovered America with no evidence whatsoever does that make him intelligent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='Anti-Theist' timestamp='1325958016' post='5752826'] And how does that work? Evidence is crucial in proving an argument correct. If someone was to go around saying Christopher Colombus discovered America with no evidence whatsoever does that make him intelligent? [/quote] You do realize ITT generally denotes sarcasm right? I'm throwing a crack at .Pikachu for insulting your intelligence while not showing any of his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 The Bible is disgusting, but we all ignore it. Christianity and Islam actively condoned Slavery for years and only stopped when it was fashionable. But we should ignore everything they've done wrong. We don't want to offend anyone. And that's a good thing, a very good thing. To offend the religious is not nice, and I mean that sincerely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Pikachu. Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='Anti-Theist' timestamp='1325958016' post='5752826'] And how does that work? Evidence is crucial in proving an argument correct. If someone was to go around saying Christopher Colombus discovered America with no evidence whatsoever does that make him intelligent? [/quote] Dance my puppet! Dance! I don't post a counter argument to yours because I don't feel it's worth it. There are [u]so[/u] many verses in the Bible which contradict. This meaning that it would be pointless to argue with anyone about the Bible as it would be an argument of contradictions and beliefs. Ieyasu, I'm really not [i]that [/i]bothered if you throw a crack at me. I'm a new member with 3 posts. I have plenty of time to show this forum what I have to offer. EDIT: Some of my stuff about contradictions and what have you were a bit loose as well. For which I apologize. I am tired so, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Master Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='.Pikachu.' timestamp='1325958639' post='5752836'] Dance my puppet! Dance! I don't post a counter argument to yours because I don't feel it's worth it. There are [u]so[/u] many verses in the Bible which contradict. This meaning that it would be pointless to argue with anyone about the Bible as it would be an argument of contradictions and beliefs. Ieyasu, I'm really not [i]that [/i]bothered if you throw a crack at me. I'm a new member with 3 posts. I have plenty of time to show this forum what I have to offer. EDIT: Some of my stuff about contradictions and what have you were a bit loose as well. For which I apologize. I am tired so, yeah. [/quote] Obvious troll is obvious. /onsubject: It's bad. It's natural. You cannot fully eliminate it. People refuse to have a big boy discussion about it because people will always ramble on. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Slaves were treated as property. Property is bought and sold. "However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)" "If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)" Sex slavery. "[i]When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.[/i] (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)" Rules on Slavery "[i]When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.[/i][color=#000000] (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)"[/color] [color=#000000]Etc etc [/color] "[i]Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. [/i][color=#000000] (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)"[/color] [color=#000000]"[/color][i]The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given."[/i][color=#000000] (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)[/color] [color=#000000]There are times "payment" is mentioned which refers to indentured servants or temporary slaves. However, sex slavery and the mention of purchasing also means permanent slavery. The girl can be freed if he doesn't treat her the way he is required. You're both wrong but also right. [/color][color=#000000] [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 So you're using religion to justify slavery...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Honestly, leave it up to anti-theist to turn a discussion about slavery into LOLYOUGUYSSTILLBELIEVEINRELIGION?RELIGIONSUCKS This topic is done IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Hey, see the thread title? Does it say, "Hai YCM, please whine about religion." No it does not. Slavery is a serious problem RIGHT NOW. Stop stroking your ego and get back to the present. Children are being raped repeatedly all over the world because of this and you guys derail the topic so you can cry about religion. Of course if there was a topic about bullying you'd all be crying about how awful it is. [quote name='Anti-Theist' timestamp='1325955250' post='5752733'] I am the one with the Narrow Perception of Reality? Really? Or is it you. [/quote] Nope, it's you. Notice how I don't insult your beliefs. (Or lack thereof if you prefer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 I was actually just trying the settle argument between you two Tentacruel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 It's horrible in this day and age the amount of people who are victims are sex trafficing, all because they want a better life and don't know that's gonna be the result. People are so greedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='Yin' timestamp='1325964878' post='5753005'] It's horrible in this day and age the amount of people who are victims are sex trafficing, all because they want a better life and don't know that's gonna be the result. People are so greedy. [/quote] Thank you for caring. =3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Kind of stupid that in the US a man will get less years for sex trafficking than he would drinking and driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Not really a proper prevention really, the governments need to be far more strict. Tentacruel I wanted it off the bible/bible bashing theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1325964552' post='5752993'] Nope, it's you. Notice how I don't insult your beliefs. (Or lack thereof if you prefer) [/quote] Notice how he didn't insult your beliefs, but merely pointed out the hypocrasy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1325966293' post='5753056'] Notice how he didn't insult your beliefs, but merely pointed out the hypocrasy? [/quote] Nice rose-tinted glasses ya got there. Notice how I corrected him, and that you misspelled hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1325967088' post='5753077'] Nice rose-tinted glasses ya got there. Notice how I corrected him, and that you misspelled hypocrisy. [/quote] Yes because on the internet, misspelling one word makes your entire argument invalid, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 [quote name='Ryūku' timestamp='1325967658' post='5753089'] Yes because on the internet, misspelling one word makes your entire argument invalid, huh? [/quote] No, his point was invalid anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRenji Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Slavery is despicable, but it's one of those horrible things that will probably never cease, like murder, rape, etc. This is simply because there are twisted, deplorable people in this world. [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1325965355' post='5753017'] Kind of stupid that in the US a man will get less years for sex trafficking than he would drinking and driving. [/quote] How many years would someone get for sex trafficking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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