Tentacruel Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 [quote name='Ryūku' timestamp='1326072506' post='5755510'] I have 20 slaves working for me. Well that's upsetting. :/ [/quote] Which is kind of the point of this thread. This issue shouldn't be ignored. Think about it, right now small children are being kidnapped and raped repeatedly. O_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 [quote name='Ryūku' timestamp='1326072506' post='5755510'] I have 20 slaves working for me. Well that's upsetting. :/ [/quote] 22 BEAT THA-oh wait.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 34 slaves, due to mod duties and whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Alright, I'm just going to say it. Trying to put an end to slavery would be like trying to get rid of pedophiles on the internet. It's a good thing to do, but it just won't happen. More and more cases will pop up. Not to say we should just all go start selling out kids out as slaves, but there isn't exactly something convenient like a way to make everybody happy at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1326073174' post='5755528'] Alright, I'm just going to say it. Trying to put an end to slavery would be like trying to get rid of pedophiles on the internet. It's a good thing to do, but it just won't happen. More and more cases will pop up. Not to say we should just all go start selling out kids out as slaves, but there isn't exactly something convenient like a way to make everybody happy at once. [/quote] You're right, we should just stop trying to prevent murder, theft, rape, environmental deterioration and war because they're going to happen anyway. And slavery would be easier to stop than those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John A. Zoidberg Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1326072883' post='5755515'] Which is kind of the point of this thread. This issue shouldn't be ignored. Think about it, right now small children are being kidnapped and raped repeatedly. O_O [/quote] I... I don't think that rape is the main focus of slavery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1326073174' post='5755528'] Alright, I'm just going to say it. Trying to put an end to slavery would be like trying to get rid of pedophiles on the internet. It's a good thing to do, but it just won't happen. More and more cases will pop up. Not to say we should just all go start selling out kids out as slaves, but there isn't exactly something convenient like a way to make everybody happy at once. [/quote] HOW CAN THE MAN WHO USHERED IN THE DO ERA SAY THIS? But yeah, nothing less of an international full cooperation crackdown will end child slavery [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1326073151' post='5755526'] 34 slaves, due to mod duties and whatnot. [/quote] sure Blame it on mod duties I know what you do in your free time ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1326073291' post='5755536'] You're right, we should just stop trying to prevent murder, theft, rape, environmental deterioration and war because they're going to happen anyway. And slavery would be easier to stop than those. [/quote] Where the hell did I say we shouldn't bother stopping slavery? I said you may say it's a problem, but trying to solve it is a lot harder than you seem to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1326074009' post='5755568'] Where the hell did I say we shouldn't bother stopping slavery? I said you may say it's a problem, but trying to solve it is a lot harder than you seem to think. [/quote] Which is why we should try harder. But yeah, you are right. It's very covert and very hard to detect. I never said it wasn't hard to solve. I'm just really enthusiastic about this issue. [quote name='Ryūku' timestamp='1326073299' post='5755537'] I... I don't think that rape is the main focus of slavery... [/quote] By rape I mean forced prostitution, which is functionally the same, especially when the child in question is drugged or knocked out. And yes, the slave owners do sometimes rape the slaves they "own." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Concerning slavery, my oldest brother is one of those paranoid liberals, and thinks that the Republican party, the party of big business, wants to put black people on plantations as slaves and women in the kitchen. Slavery wouldn't work in today's world, at least here in America. Businesses thrive on customers buying their products, and if a lot of people, like slaves, aren't making money, businesses die. *Begins rambling* Concerning the prostitution in the op, to start off, prostitution in general is not THAT bad as people try to make it seem. It's a mutual agreement between two consenting adults, and we could make it legal, with legal mumbo jumbo to keep it in line, including establishing an age (21? Younger with parent approval?) at which you can legally do it, force the partners to sign an agreement in writing so the hoe doesn't pull a rape card, control pimps and whorehouses, and possibly even tax them. Heck, the world's best mom could be a hoe working a street corner to put food on the table for her kids. Human trafficking on the other hand is NOT a mutual agreement between two consenting adults and is sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1326071553' post='5755492'] To keep this topic from getting stale, [url="http://slaveryfootprint.org/"]http://slaveryfootprint.org/[/url] Find out how many slaves indirectly work for you. [/quote] I hope you get how faulty that site is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 [quote name='~Coolio~' timestamp='1326111584' post='5756058'] I hope you get how faulty that site is. [/quote] Well it's going to be a very rough estimate based on whatever handful of data they collected but other than that I'm not sure what you mean. [quote name='~King Crouton~' timestamp='1326079429' post='5755735'] *Begins rambling* Concerning the prostitution in the op, to start off, prostitution in general is not THAT bad as people try to make it seem. It's a mutual agreement between two consenting adults.... [/quote] Yes, and I agree. Consensual prositution should be legalized. But I'm talking about forced prostitution which is no better than rape. See, people get kidnapped and locked up. Then they usually get drugged or whatever and clients pay for time with them. Sometimes these people are children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 [quote name='Tentacruel' timestamp='1326121253' post='5756142'] Well it's going to be a very rough estimate based on whatever handful of data they collected but other than that I'm not sure what you mean.[/quote] He means the site is very faulty in that it makes assumtions based on where you are and the general area you are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Yes, yes it does, but it still drives the point across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 [url="http://slaveryfootprint.org/about/#methodology"]http://slaveryfootpr...ut/#methodology[/url] A horribly inaccurate point. Sorry, but as much as I would like it to be true, there aren't southern and Australian slaves laboring over the fruits and goat cheese I bought at the farmer's market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 [quote name='~Coolio~' timestamp='1326257010' post='5758913'] A horribly inaccurate point. Sorry, but as much as [b]I would like it to be true,[/b] there aren't southern and Australian slaves laboring over the fruits and goat cheese I bought at the farmer's market. [/quote] Um, what? Er, anyway. Of course slaves are not related to produce bought from a farmer's market. That should be obvious. Anyway, I'm going to be honest. I'm not even gonna pretend Christian Organizations are good at math or statistics, but they're still striving for a good cause so I won't make a big deal out of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Random fact until 2010 (I think it was) it was legal for a human in the UK to own another human. (Source: QI) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 [quote name='Yin' timestamp='1326313841' post='5759677'] Random fact until 2010 (I think it was) it was legal for a human in the UK to own another human. (Source: QI) [/quote] From what I've heard the UK has a bunch of laws that are old and unenforced that they haven't bothered to get rid of officially. Like the longbow one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 [quote name='Comrade Trollestia' timestamp='1325964552' post='5752993'] Children are being raped repeatedly all over the world [/quote] You're mentioning child rape and then telling us not to talk about religion? Gee, I guess I'll just ride the elephant in the room home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 [quote name='Dт. Михаи́л Ботви́нник PчD' timestamp='1326319548' post='5759872'] You're mentioning child rape and then telling us not to talk about religion? Gee, I guess I'll just ride the elephant in the room home! [/quote] A religious person raping a child is no different from a non-religious person raping a child, and I'd rather not get into an argument about the Catholic Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='Comrade Trollestia' timestamp='1326288695' post='5759205'] Um, what? Er, anyway. Of course slaves are not related to produce bought from a farmer's market. That should be obvious. Anyway, I'm going to be honest. I'm not even gonna pretend Christian Organizations are good at math or statistics, but they're still striving for a good cause so I won't make a big deal out of that. [/quote] Their slavery locations are wonky and they aren't taking into actual account where and how I get what I consume, just making massive assumptions, as the stats page shows. And sure, it's well-intentioned, but that doesn't somehow prevent it from being unreliable to a point of negligibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFauKorean Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 modern day slavery is in other words human trafficking. Its nothing personal, just profits, consumers, supply and demand. In other words humans have become a materialistic resource at the same level as house hold appliances of convenience. Such as vacuum cleaners, microwaves and can openers. so realistically speaking its never gonna end. Its a business, and a profitable one at that. If you're not a producer you're a consumer. Most come to think that the ones abducting them are at most fault, but in truth the entire world's flaws allows its circulation without as much as a dent for every million spent to prevent it. Primal instincts allow consumers to purchase slaves at a ratio greater than producers could even supply. then it gets even more complex when you realize just pulling them out of the human trafficking business isn't enough. Most slaves don't have proper education anymore or it was literally wiped out of their brains, they have no money to begin with to even afford education and basic necessities. Therefore throwing them into the industrial world you've created a new member of the homeless, and more than likely will find there way back to the human trafficking that they became used to. its just something you can't solve with what we have. Most nations are wasting their dollar on this one as cold as it is to hear or for me to even say. the most we can possibly do is to take it personally and harbor a slave yourself. Then gift that human being opportunities, pulling him/her out of an inevitable looping fate. If enough people took it personally with the best of intentions the dent will probably be much bigger than any amount of money invested in an organization or government bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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