WWECENA Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 here is a good card i was only gonna name it error but i thought i will be better if i add 1001 =_= plz comment [img]http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1538/190779461jpgset1jsdset2.jpg[/img] effect: When your opponent Normal or Special Summoned a Machine-Type monster to the field,place 3 counters on it. if that monster attacks, remove 1 counter from that monster at the end of the Damage Step, when all counters has been removed. Destroy that monster at the end of the Battle Phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3ath79 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Great card. 10/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 thnx wow that was fast fastest comment ever 3 sec after post loooool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 well that'll take too damn long most monsters don't last longer than 1 turn, so waiting like 3 turns is an eternity plus it's situational and only works for machines, you should have made it apply to other types Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3ath79 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1326575000' post='5764321'] well that'll take too damn long most monsters don't last longer than 1 turn, so waiting like 3 turns is an eternity plus it's situational and only works for machines, you should have made it apply to other types [/quote] Even if it might be weaker than [i][u]you[/u][/i] want, that doesn't mean it has to be stronger. Not all cards posted onto Realistic have to be meta, above average, overused cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1326575000' post='5764321'] well that'll take too damn long most monsters don't last longer than 1 turn, so waiting like 3 turns is an eternity plus it's situational and only works for machines, you should have made it apply to other types [/quote] i disagree with you why you say monster don't last longer than 1 turn you [size=4][color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif]serious pro lol there is alot of [/font][/color][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]machines monster that can be hard to destroy i mean if you don't have spell or trap and how about [/font][/color][/size]cyber dragon a monster with 2100 just right that and most of the time the cpu summon him in his first turn loool and it can sure as hell last longer than 1 turn and for the second part you say it's situational and only works for machines, you should have made it apply to other types will it gonna be op if i make it work on other types beside you got a card that hase a robot and a error sign sure it's not gonna work on dragons loool and btw the art is done by me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1326608804' post='5764985'] i disagree with you why you say monster don't last longer than 1 turn you [color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif]serious pro lol there is alot of [/font][/color][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]machines monster that can be hard to destroy i mean if you don't have spell or trap and how about [/font][/color]cyber dragon a monster with 2100 just right that and most of the time the cpu summon him in his first turn loool and it can sure as hell last longer than 1 turn and for the second part you say it's situational and only works for machines, you should have made it apply to other types will it gonna be op if i make it work on other types beside you got a card that hase a robot and a error sign sure it's not gonna work on dragons loool and btw the art is done by me [/quote] You're missing the point here. The card is bad and nobody would use it because it's too situational and too slow. You know why most monsters won't stick on the field long enough for this card to be effective? Because they're going to be used for Tribute / Synchro / Xyz material as soon as possible, rendering this card useless. 3 turns is too much and you should understand that if you're going to make cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1326638557' post='5765165'] You're missing the point here. The card is bad and nobody would use it because it's too situational and too slow. You know why most monsters won't stick on the field long enough for this card to be effective? Because they're going to be used for Tribute / Synchro / Xyz material as soon as possible, rendering this card useless. 3 turns is too much and you should understand that if you're going to make cards. [/quote] the card is bad and nobody would use it really are you kidding me so you don't even want to admit that it's a good idea and a good defence card and you say most monsters won't stick on the field long enough for this card to be effective? Because they're going to be used for Tribute / Synchro / Xyz material as soon as possible ok even if that true that Synchro monster or Xyz material monster will attack right and of course i'm gonna use DNA surgery so every monster is gonna be machine so here you go the Synchro monster or the Xyz material monster will be destroyed after 3 attack so you still think this card is useless and you gonna thank god that you have card like that active in your field and you should look at every scenario and every [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]situation for the card effect you should understand that if you're going to [/size][/font][/color][size=4][color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif]Criticize a cards.[/font][/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Oh wow, a card that can combo with DNA surgery. Guess what? Combos that involve DNA surgery aren't good. Especially when a card that is involved in a said combo takes too long to be of any effectiveness. Any card that allows your opponent to still attack and deal damage for 3 turns is too slow and not effective. I know what I'm talking about because I am better than you at this game, as I clearly have more experience than you, especially when you think this card is good because it can destroy monsters after 3 turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 [color=#000066][b]OMG! It can destroy Xyz Materials/ or cards already in the grave? Amazing. DNA Surgery is stupid. First turn, get monster(s) out, sync/xyz/(maybe attack, but very rare, unless it's already synchro/xyz). The monster chosen's already off the field :/ Why does every single noob feel the need to post in RC without posting in AoC to get reviews, ideas how to balance, new OCG? :/ This card is good. In fact, so good, it gets a [i]perfect [/i]0.[/b][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryptic Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Great idea, but it seems like it should be more of a counter trap, rather than a contiuous one, otherwise the card would be a bit overpowered for a real match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 [quote name='Kryptic' timestamp='1326663207' post='5765712'] Great idea, but it seems like it should be more of a counter trap, rather than a contiuous one, otherwise the card would be a bit overpowered for a real match [/quote] ...overpowered? Did you honestly not read what was said in this thread beforehand? The card is slow, TOO slow to be of any use, rendering it unplayable. Really, where did you conclude that this card would be overpowered in a real YGO duel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryptic Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 [quote]...overpowered? Did you honestly not read what was said in this thread beforehand? The card is slow, TOO slow to be of any use, rendering it unplayable. Really, where did you conclude that this card would be overpowered in a real YGO duel? [/quote] Oh, whoops, i thought it was every Standby Phase, not every attack, my fault, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1326648609' post='5765316'] Oh wow, a card that can combo with DNA surgery. Guess what? Combos that involve DNA surgery aren't good. Especially when a card that is involved in a said combo takes too long to be of any effectiveness. Any card that allows your opponent to still attack and deal damage for 3 turns is too slow and not effective. I know what I'm talking about because I am better than you at this game, as I clearly have more experience than you, especially when you think this card is good because it can destroy monsters after 3 turns. [/quote] of course it can combo with DNA surgery and what the hell are you talking about Combos that involve DNA surgery aren't good do you even think before you talk here is a good combo for you DNA surgery with ally of justice monsters DNA surgery with insect barrier wait there is more DNA surgery with dragon's rage and you keep complaining about how long 3 turn is will i can't imagine how final countdown make you feel then and ya i can manage 3 turn and if you think about it what harm you get if you activate this card nothing if he decide to attack good if not big deal but he gonna attack sooner or later and plz you don't know me ok i have 8 year of experience in yugi plus i'm gamer so plz don't test me and i'm not gonna ask you how much experience you have in yugi cuz i don't care [quote name='N.E.M.E.S.I.S.' timestamp='1326649346' post='5765335'] [color=#000066][b]OMG! It can destroy Xyz Materials/ or cards already in the grave? Amazing. DNA Surgery is stupid[/b][/color] [/quote] of course i didn't mean the actual Materials that goes to the graveyard noob i was talking about the xyz monster num or not and you say DNA surgery is stupid only noobs say that you know what i can do to you with DNA surgery i can forbid you from attacking i can change your monster battle position i can decrease your monster ATK and DEF hell i can make a monster with 20k ATK with DNA surgery [quote name='Kryptic' timestamp='1326663207' post='5765712'] Great idea, but it seems like it should be more of a counter trap, rather than a contiuous one, otherwise the card would be a bit overpowered for a real match [/quote] thanx for the comment dude but it can't be counter trap and have this effect and the card is not op at all [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1326666359' post='5765760'] The card is slow, TOO slow to be of any use [/quote] my god you really think that 3 turn is slow in yugi if this is the problem than you saying that Swords of Revealing Light and all the virus trap cards are slow to be of any use ? regardless of what the effect of the card is if this is what you think than what the hell i'm doing talking to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101100111000 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1326671010' post='5765861'] my god you really think that 3 turn is slow in yugi if this is the problem than you saying that Swords of Revealing Light and all the virus trap cards are slow to be of any use ? regardless of what the effect of the card is if this is what you think than what the hell i'm doing talking to you [/quote] Difference: Your card destroys AFTER three turns. SoRL and DDV's effects are affecting ALL THREE TURNS. Again, three turns is too long, mostly because most duelist will probably tribute it for another monster/use the targeted monster for an effect/ destroy your trap card. Tl;dr Everyone else has a sound argument against this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 [quote name='101100111000' timestamp='1326671492' post='5765869'] Difference: Your card destroys AFTER three turns. SoRL and DDV's effects are affecting ALL THREE TURNS. Again, three turns is too long, mostly because most duelist will probably tribute it for another monster/use the targeted monster for an effect/ destroy your trap card. Tl;dr Everyone else has a sound argument against this card. [/quote] i know what are you talking about that's why i'm useing [font="tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif"][color="#5a5a5a"]DNA surgery so it [/color][/font]it doesn't matter if he tribute or not it will be a machine and of course he is not gonna tribute a[font="tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif"][color="#000066"][size=3][/size][/color][/font][size=4][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Synchro or a xyz monster after he summoned it he gonna attack with it so [/font][/color][color=#9BA2A9][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]regardless if he attack or not he [/font][/color][/size]always gonna be in a bad spot cuz he know he only have 3 attack before his monster is destroy so in this whole situation who gonna have the Advantage me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 The problem is that the opponent will probably finish you off before any of their monsters lose their last counter or Heavy Storm this before it becomes a threat. Machinas can play around this because of Gearframe and Peacekeeper. I say no to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guuu1234 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 This card is wayyy to situational to be used. It's a side deck card, and even then there are better chooses to side against machines. It should effect more monsters, to make it more versitile (Then that would mismatch the name i guess). Anyway good attempt, it's balanced, but just too situational to be used. a lot. It's not great, it's not even that bad. It's just [i]meh[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 [quote name='~King Crouton~' timestamp='1326673294' post='5765904'] The problem is that the opponent will probably finish you off before any of their monsters lose their last counter or Heavy Storm this before it becomes a threat. Machinas can play around this because of Gearframe and Peacekeeper. I say no to this. [/quote] you can't really Predict that it as i said before i can manage 3 turn but it's all Depends on the [size=4][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]situation the luck of the draw how many life point i have i'm not saying the card is [/font][/color][/size]indestructible the whole problem is 3 turn long or not in yugi game you see i played every yugi game since 2004 [size=4][color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif]Except the psp tag force series i can finish 3 turn in 2 min or 1.30 min so it's not that long and as i said before i will always [/font][/color][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]have the Advantage as long as this card on the field and you have alot of card on your deck that can keep you save for 3 turn [/font][/color][/size][quote name='guuu1234' timestamp='1326674178' post='5765935'] This card is wayyy to situational to be used. It's a side deck card, and even then there are better chooses to side against machines. It should effect more monsters, to make it more versitile (Then that would mismatch the name i guess). Anyway good attempt, it's balanced, but just too situational to be used. a lot. It's not great, it's not even that bad. It's just [i]meh[/i] [/quote] thanx for the comment but tell me the truth will you feel safe if you have this card and you play against a machine deck? loool and if you use [font="tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif"][color="#5a5a5a"]DNA surgery just to make sure that every monster summoned is a machine will you feel even more [/color][/font]safer ? lol if the answer is yes then that's all what this card about and we actually talking as if this is the only card in my deck lool i can still win the duel this card is just part of a strategy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guuu1234 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 [quote]thanx for the comment but tell me the truth will you feel safe if you have this card and you play against a machine deck? loool and if you use [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#5a5a5a]DNA surgery just to make sure that every monster summoned is a machine will you feel even more [/color][/font]safer ? lol if the answer is yes then that's all what this card about and we actually talking as if this is the only card in my deck lool i can still win the duel this card is just part of a strategy [/quote] Will I feel safe if i use this against a machine deck? Honestly I would not. Machina, Cyber, Gadgets, Karakuri's, Ancient Gears; they are ALL machines i have went up against and i wouldn't want this in my deck to rely on protecting because of how long it will take. If my opponent controls (let's go common situation here) a Machina Gearframe, and Machina Fortress, and i have just this card, the protection is virtually non-existant. They attack, I lose Half my LP. They attack again next turn, I lose. I'll feel so much safer having cards like Downgrade, Chemiratech Fortress Dragon, or even Electric Virus as a perferrable option to this. If this card only placed 1 counter on the monsters instead of 3, then destroyed them when they attacked, I may consider this effective to a very limited extent. . . I would rather not rely on a DNA Surgery/ Error combo when i can do a, let's say, Dandyion/One for One combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101100111000 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Uh huh, I'll feel SO MUCH SAFER knowing my opponent can Summon Machines and Tribute them without being destroyed by this card. All your opponent has to do is destroy this card, which is easy. Plus, he can destroy it while making te exact same plays he'd normally make. You just sound like a bigger idiot by denying the advice people give you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 [quote name='guuu1234' timestamp='1326676229' post='5766014'] Will I feel safe if i use this against a machine deck? Honestly I would not. Machina, Cyber, Gadgets, Karakuri's, Ancient Gears; they are ALL machines i have went up against and i wouldn't want this in my deck to rely on protecting because of how long it will take. If my opponent controls (let's go common situation here) a Machina Gearframe, and Machina Fortress, and i have just this card, the protection is virtually non-existant. They attack, I lose Half my LP. They attack again next turn, I lose. I'll feel so much safer having cards like Downgrade, Chemiratech Fortress Dragon, or even Electric Virus as a perferrable option to this. If this card only placed 1 counter on the monsters instead of 3, then destroyed them when they attacked, I may consider this effective to a very limited extent. . . I would rather not rely on a DNA Surgery/ Error combo when i can do a, let's say, Dandyion/One for One combo. [/quote] you know why i didn't make it 1 counter cuz this way this card will be op just ask anyone i can easily change the effect but it will not feel right to me and again you don't have to worry about him [size=4][color=#9BA2A9][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Tribute[/font][/color] his monster as long as it machine you will always have the [/size][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Advantage cuz you know it will be destroy after 3 attack and as i said before this it just part of [/font][/color][size=4][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]strategy i'm not telling you to [/font][/color][/size]reli on the card 100% and of course you have your way to build your anti-machine deck the way you see it i can't Judge you [quote name='101100111000' timestamp='1326676274' post='5766015'] You just sound like a bigger idiot by denying the advice people give you. [/quote] i'm gonna be the bigger man here i'm not gonna answer you just read my previous comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1326671010' post='5765861'] of course it can combo with DNA surgery and what the hell are you talking about Combos that involve DNA surgery aren't good do you even think before you talk here is a good combo for you DNA surgery with ally of justice monsters DNA surgery with insect barrier wait there is more DNA surgery with dragon's rage and you keep complaining about how long 3 turn is will i can't imagine how final countdown make you feel then and ya i can manage 3 turn and if you think about it what harm you get if you activate this card nothing if he decide to attack good if not big deal but he gonna attack sooner or later and plz you don't know me ok i have 8 year of experience in yugi plus i'm gamer so plz don't test me and i'm not gonna ask you how much experience you have in yugi cuz i don't care of course i didn't mean the actual Materials that goes to the graveyard noob i was talking about the xyz monster num or not and you say DNA surgery is stupid only noobs say that you know what i can do to you with DNA surgery i can forbid you from attacking i can change your monster battle position i can decrease your monster ATK and DEF hell i can make a monster with 20k ATK with DNA surgery [b][color=#000066]Are you really that dumb? Materials are attached to Xyz, not to grave[/color][/b] thanx for the comment dude but it can't be counter trap and have this effect and the card is not op at all my god you really think that 3 turn is slow in yugi if this is the problem than you saying that Swords of Revealing Light and all the virus trap cards are slow to be of any use ? regardless of what the effect of the card is if this is what you think than what the hell i'm doing talking to you [/quote] [color=#000066][b]And if you don't take advice on this stupid dumb card, so be it. Who cares about someone ranting about a stupid dumb card? :/[/b][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 [quote name='N.E.M.E.S.I.S.' timestamp='1326680940' post='5766142'] [color=#000066][b]And if you don't take advice on this stupid dumb card, so be it. Who cares about someone ranting about a stupid dumb card? :/[/b][/color] [/quote] did you see the first comment [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Great card. 10/10 that's someone who really understand and why the hell i take advice from someone that tell my you have a stupid dumb card if you don't like my damn card than don't come in and comment ok[/size][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101100111000 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1326701988' post='5766613'] did you see the first comment [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Great card. 10/10 that's someone who really understand and why the hell i take advice from someone that tell my you have a stupid dumb card if you don't like my damn card than don't come in and comment ok[/size][/font][/color] [/quote] Yes, compare 1 "10/10" from one seemingly inexperienced member versus several members with enough time and experience to judge a card. The point of posting a card in RC is to figure out its realism, and how well it would fit into the game. If an overwhelming majority of players tell you it's unrealistic and useless as it stands, then you need to fix it. Remember: Realism is never determined by an individual, but in thus case, by the majority group familiar with the ins and outs of this game, that know what's useful and what's not, who know when a mistake has been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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