Stratus G. Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Monster-17 3x Elemental Hero Prisma 1x Elemental Hero Stratos 1x Gladiator Beast Bestiari 2x Gladiator Beast Darius 2x Gladiator Beast Equeste 2x Gladiator Beast Laquari 1x Gladiator Beast Murmillo 1x Gladiator Beast Retiari 1x Gorz The Emissary of Darkness 3x Test Tiger Spell-12 2x A Hero Lives 1x Book of Moon 1x Dark Hole 2x Forbidden Lance 2x Gladiator Proving Ground 1x Heavy Storm 1x Monster Reborn 2x Mystical Space Typhoon Trap-11 2x Compulsory Evacuation Device 2x Dark Bribe 3x Gladiator Beast War Chariot 1x Solemn Judgment 1x Torrential Tribute 2x Dimensional Prison Extra-15 1x Chimeratech Fortress Dragon 2x Gladitator Beast Essedarii 3x Gladiator Beast Gyzarus 2x Gladiator Beast Heraklinos 1x Gem-Knight Pearl 1x Stardust Dragon 1x Steelswarm Roach 1x Number 17: Leviathan Dragon 2x Number 39: Utopia 1x Number C39: Utopia Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 More Prisma 1 Stratos another Hero Lives Dark Bribe and Marshmallon are pretty bad. so its waboku. run some d prisons and bottomless etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratus G. Posted January 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 [quote name='RAEGING DOGKING' timestamp='1326875398' post='5769731'] More Prisma 1 Stratos another Hero Lives Dark Bribe and Marshmallon are pretty bad. so its waboku. run some d prisons and bottomless etc. [/quote] Stratos is slow and an uneeded summon. Normally dead if drawn after 1st to 3rd turn. 3 Hero Lives became dead draw, 2 was fine. Marshmellon is a mini stall that has proven useful. Waboku is as Marshmallon, though it allows a Glad Beast to kick off if need be. Compulsory has been more consistent than D-Prison at the moment. Bottomless has turn into an "ehh" choice. Gets shot before it can be used 75% of the time, or sits dormant due to low Attackers. I may switch Dark Bribe for something else, It has it's saving-points. But mostly gets destroyed by a singlar monster effect or MST'd before it could've been used.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 That is pretty horrible logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratus G. Posted January 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 [quote name='RAEGING DOGKING' timestamp='1326900291' post='5769876'] That is pretty horrible logic. [/quote] That's nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 - Marshmallon (doesn't help the swarm of the deck and this deck shouldn't need stall) - Grand Mole (Gyzarus does it better) - Starlight (situational) -2 Woboku/Dark Bribe (side Woboku it if you want, but it's uneeded in the main. Or just lose Dark Bribe because it's pretty bad) -2 Heraklinos (you never go into more than 1 with the summoning cost) +1 Prisma (needed for combos) +1 Stratos (search Prisma) +1 A Hero Lives (Max it for easier draw as it's your main combo starter) +2 Solemn Warning (staple) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratus G. Posted January 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1326934732' post='5770727'] - Marshmallon ([b]Sided[/b]) - Grand Mole ([b]Though It has stopped a few things I couldn't get rid of by Gyzarus, I'll side it.[/b]) - Starlight ([b]Dark hole,Black Rose,Heavy, Most threats that happen 75% of the time[/b]) -2 Woboku/Dark Bribe (side Woboku it if you want, but it's uneeded in the main. Or just lose Dark Bribe because it's pretty bad) -2 Heraklinos ([b]I've gone into a second when the first died by some means.[/b] [b]Though I'll drop 1.[/b]) +1 Prisma ([b]After today's tourney,Done[/b].) +1 Stratos ([b]He just wastes a summon to search. [/b][b]I'd rather use Emergency Call[/b]) +1 A Hero Lives ([b]Was maxed before, Turned into dead draw. As I said before[/b]) +2 Solemn Warning ([b]With the Half LP I'll already be using. This is abit Iffy[/b]) [/quote] Bolded is the reply Changes -Marshmallon +Prisma -1 Heraklinos +1 Steelswarm Roach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Do you enjoy arguing and being wrong? Have you not read Maxx "C"? It's a card played in 3s in most good decks (GBs are an excpetion) My point is that if they chain Maxx "C" to your Hero Lives you just go for Stratos and then you won't lose to their giant hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 WTF is the point of sideing Marshmallon? Spirit Reaper is a better side And please take advice or GTFO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 You said 3 cards that are threats 75% of the time. How does that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I can understand the logic behind not wanting to main 3 A Hero Lives, but perhaps side it for situations where you might need it. That, and I think you might want to go 1-2 D-Prison, for sure. It's really good in Glads and can help clear the field to swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratus G. Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 [quote name='RAEGING DOGKING' timestamp='1326989373' post='5771236'] WTF is the point of sideing Marshmallon? Spirit Reaper is a better side And please take advice or GTFO. [/quote] Explain how Spirit reaper is better than Marshmellon with it's "If targeted" destruction ability that is dreadfully easy to accomplish nowadays? I listened to advice, doesn't mean I have to do everything a said person suggested. Anyway, For one to say "GTFO", the easier way would be to not post in said thread. Instead of bumping it. [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1326979208' post='5771121'] Do you enjoy arguing and being wrong? Have you not read Maxx "C"? It's a card played in 3s in most good decks (GBs are an excpetion) My point is that if they chain Maxx "C" to your Hero Lives you just go for Stratos and then you won't lose to their giant hand. [/quote] 1:"Do you enjoy arguing and being wrong?" Do you enjoy misunderstanding? Because I wasn't arguing, nor was I wrong. Everything was tested many times. 2: Yes, I've read Maxx "C", And I've also seen that it's rarely being used now. But fine, what "changes" do you suggest? But I will not be having 3 A hero Lives mained. [quote name='- Sharpshooter -' timestamp='1326996844' post='5771336'] I can understand the logic behind not wanting to main 3 A Hero Lives, but perhaps side it for situations where you might need it. [/quote] [b]It's about time someone said this, And it's been sided for awhile now.[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 [quote name='Stratus G.' timestamp='1327020766' post='5771895'] 2: Yes, I've read Maxx "C", And I've also seen that it's rarely being used now. But fine, what "changes" do you suggest? But I will not be having 3 A hero Lives mained. [/quote] [url="http://www.konami.com/yugioh/blog/?p=7696"]http://www.konami.com/yugioh/blog/?p=7696[/url] Do you not see the 70 maindecked Maxx C's out of a possible 96? Because I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratus G. Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1327031591' post='5772069'] [url="http://www.konami.com/yugioh/blog/?p=7696"]http://www.konami.co...oh/blog/?p=7696[/url] [/quote] "[b]November 21st, 2011[/b]" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 [quote name='Stratus G.' timestamp='1327042814' post='5772267'] "[b]November 21st, 2011[/b]" [/quote] Is still our format. How is marshmallon good? Have you not read spirit reaper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 How is Reaper better? Are you kidding? Marshmallon may not have a self-destruct clause, but all it does is 1000 burn, once. Also, the effect to burn starts a chain, so Dolkka would be able to kill it in the event you face Rabbit. Reaper can swipe a card from the opponent's hand. People do tend to conserve their important cards in hand, and unless you're facing Dark World, hitting the hand hurts. A LOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratus G. Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='RAEGING DOGKING' timestamp='1327047839' post='5772292'] Is still our format. How is marshmallon good? Have you not read spirit reaper? [/quote] "[b]November 21st, 2011[/b]" Hardly considered our meta now. And I never said the 1000LP burn was a better effect. Just that the non-destruct ability was far better than Spirit Reaper's. Most cards [b]target [/b]now, and target for the [b]most minor of things[/b]. Marshmallon sits and can't be bothered if targeted, unless it's being removed by something. Spirit Reaper-Opponent targets with something they would have used for their own monster(Example:Safe zone, Forbidden Lance, etc.) If your willing to attack directly with Spirit Reaper, then your willing to allow your opponent the opportunity to game you within their turn against the Attack-position Reaper, which will happen more likely than you think. Even if they just draw into a 1 card hand with no field. Anyway, opinions are opinions. I have mine and you have yours, Neither of us are technically wrong about these points. Back to the topic at hand before this swerves more off road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Stratus G.' timestamp='1327132321' post='5773647'] And I never said the 1000LP burn was a better effect. Just that the non-destruct ability was far better than Spirit Reaper's. Most cards [b]target [/b]now, and target for the [b]most minor of things[/b]. Marshmallon sits and can't be bothered if targeted, unless it's being removed by something. [/quote] Nothing in Meta Decks targets now,with the exception of Inzektors, which are KILLING YOU ANYWAY =/ MArshmallon is only @1 because 3000 burn is absurd, but Reaper is btter, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Stratus G.' timestamp='1327132321' post='5773647'] "[b]November 21st, 2011[/b]" Hardly considered our meta now. And I never said the 1000LP burn was a better effect. Just that the non-destruct ability was far better than Spirit Reaper's. Most cards [b]target [/b]now, and target for the [b]most minor of things[/b]. Marshmallon sits and can't be bothered if targeted, unless it's being removed by something. Spirit Reaper-Opponent targets with something they would have used for their own monster(Example:Safe zone, Forbidden Lance, etc.) If your willing to attack directly with Spirit Reaper, then your willing to allow your opponent the opportunity to game you within their turn against the Attack-position Reaper, which will happen more likely than you think. Even if they just draw into a 1 card hand with no field. Anyway, opinions are opinions. I have mine and you have yours, Neither of us are technically wrong about these points. Back to the topic at hand before this swerves more off road. [/quote] Oh dear god dont be stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aero~ Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 +1 Secutor. Why does everyone like Lance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Stratus G.' timestamp='1327132321' post='5773647'] "[b]November 21st, 2011[/b]" Hardly considered our meta now. [/quote] Same banlist, same format. [quote] And I never said the 1000LP burn was a better effect. Just that the non-destruct ability was far better than Spirit Reaper's. Most cards [b]target [/b]now, and target for the [b]most minor of things[/b]. Marshmallon sits and can't be bothered if targeted, unless it's being removed by something. [/quote] Most stuff that target are killing you anyway. Unless your opponent's playing an equip deck and wants to waste their equips on you, there's nothing. [quote] Spirit Reaper-Opponent targets with something they would have used for their own monster(Example:Safe zone, Forbidden Lance, etc.) [/quote] Oh dear, 2 cards. [quote] If your willing to attack directly with Spirit Reaper, then your willing to allow your opponent the opportunity to game you within their turn against the Attack-position Reaper, which will happen more likely than you think. Even if they just draw into a 1 card hand with no field. [/quote] Don't attack with Reaper when you're at a massive disadvantage then. [quote] Anyway, opinions are opinions. I have mine and you have yours, Neither of us are technically wrong about these points. [/quote] Playing the opinion card means you acknowledge you're losing. [quote] Back to the topic at hand before this swerves more off road. [/quote] We're still on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Aero~' timestamp='1327156119' post='5773766'] +1 Secutor. Why does everyone like Lance? [/quote] Secutor is bad. WTF LANCE IS AMAZING, WHY WOULD YOU NOT LIKE LANCE IN GBS? DEAR GOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aero~ Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I just don't get why it's good. And Secutor is amazing, especially with Waboku. Instant Heraklinos/Gyazarus/Essedarii. Or Bestiari/Murmillo, destroy 2 opponents cards, and potential Utopia keeping your Murmillo safe. Sounds situational but isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratus G. Posted January 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1327132697' post='5773650'] MArshmallon is only @1 because 3000 burn is absurd, but Reaper is btter, [/quote] [b]"@1 Because 3000 burn is absurd"[/b] [b][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Tremendous_Fire"]http://yugioh.wikia....Tremendous_Fire[/url][/b] Marshmallon doesn't have a "if targeted" destruction, nor a Con-ability, making it practically invincible in Defense. Which is why Spirit Reaper is nothing now to be worried about putting @3. Marshmallon has been labeled "unbalanced" in competitive play since before it was even thought of to use for burn. Action: Play Marshmallon, they can not get rid of it unless a full strategy is made. Or a nuke of the field, or something destructive. Action: Play Spirit Reaper, extremely easy to get rid of, just target with anything you choose. [quote name='Aero~' timestamp='1327156119' post='5773766'] +1 Secutor. Why does everyone like Lance? [/quote] Secutor-Slow and uneeded. Action: Attack opponents monster with Gyzarus or some other monster you control. Opponent activates Mirror Force/Dimensional Prison You chain with Forbidden Lance, Your monster now can not be affected by [b]ANY[/b] spell or trap. That was the most simple way I could explain it, but you get the drift of it. [quote name='RAEGING DOGKING' timestamp='1327146741' post='5773697'] Oh dear god dont be stupid [/quote] Thank you, you've read my mind quite correctly,Serrah. On a better note. I'll mention this again, but change it. [b]Back to the topic at hand(Which would be the deck.)[/b], or just [b]don't post[/b]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 [quote name='Stratus G.' timestamp='1327201377' post='5775159'] [b]"@1 Because 3000 burn is absurd"[/b] [b][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Tremendous_Fire"]http://yugioh.wikia....Tremendous_Fire[/url][/b] Marshmallon doesn't have a "if targeted" destruction, nor a Con-ability, making it practically invincible in Defense. Which is why Spirit Reaper is nothing now to be worried about putting @3. Marshmallon has been labeled "unbalanced" in competitive play since before it was even thought of to use for burn. Action: Play Marshmallon, they can not get rid of it unless a full strategy is made. Or a nuke of the field, or something destructive. Action: Play Spirit Reaper, extremely easy to get rid of, just target with anything you choose. [/quote] It's @1 becaue 3 1000 burning walls isn't pleasant, but Reaper is better overall. It's not a -1 Burn, and you must be REALLY bad to compare it to a non-searchable bad -1. NO ONE RUNS THINGS THAT TARGET THAT DON'T DESTROY, except, like, Glads ._. Anytime Reaper dies, Marshmallon would, too, sans the mirror, and both are crap in said mirror =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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