King of the Swamp

[Shamack]

i recently got into an arguement with someone who says you can't use cards like King of the Swamp as a Fusion Material Monster

 

it happened when i tried to Fusion Summon Cyber Twin Dragon with KOTS and Proto Cyber (that was on the field)

 

then the arguement started and they overall said you can't fuse KOTS with ANYTHING for a fusion summon

 

so who is right?

 

and are there any cards i can't Fusion Summon involving KOTS?

[uzumakinaruto93]

u can use it for a fusion summon as long as the fusion monster doesn't have "A Fusion Summon of this card can only be conducted with the above Fusion Material Monsters." in its card text

[Static]

Cyber Twin can be brought out with Metamorphosis, thus you can use swamp.

 

I think you need to make a better deck if your running fusions :P

 

Cant summon Rainbow neos, cant summon Infernal Sniper, other E hero business, but thats about it.

[iAmNateXero]

um, you can; but not for the cyber dragon fusions. they can only be fused with the above fusion materials sadly.

[Shadow Dude64]

Cyber Twin can be brought out with Metamorphosis' date=' thus you can use swamp.

 

I think you need to make a better deck if your running fusions :P

 

Cant summon Rainbow neos, cant summon Infernal Sniper, other E hero business, but thats about it.

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yeap dats pretty much it

[CrabHelmet]

Cyber Twin can be brought out with Metamorphosis' date=' thus you can use swamp.

 

I think you need to make a better deck if your running fusions :P

 

Cant summon Rainbow neos, cant summon Infernal Sniper, other E hero business, but thats about it.

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WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

 

Cyber Twin can be brought out with Metamorphosis' date=' thus you can use swamp.

 

I think you need to make a better deck if your running fusions :P

 

Cant summon Rainbow neos, cant summon Infernal Sniper, other E hero business, but thats about it.

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yeap dats pretty much it

 

 

It's high time you lot learned the basic gameplay mechanics.

 

There are two basic restrictions that a regular Fusion Monster might happen to have. These are:

 

 

1. "A Fusion Summon of this card can only be conducted with the above Fusion Material Monsters."

 

This means that, if you use an effect such as "Polymerization", "Fusion Gate", or any card whose text says "(This Special Summon is treated as a Fusion Summon.)" to summon the Fusion Monster, you cannot use cards such as King of the Swamp as Fusion Substitute Monsters, since they are not the above Fusion Material Monsters.

 

If a card's name changes to match that of a Fusion Material Monster (such as by the effect of Proto-Cyber Dragon, Phantom of Chaos, or Elemental Hero Prisma), that card can be used in the Fusion Summon even if the Fusion Monster contains the above text, since its name is that of the Fusion Material Monster, making it count as being no different from the Fusion Material Monster. However, King of the Swamp's name doesn't change, so it can't be used.

 

Fusion Monsters containing this text can still be Special Summoned by effects that are NOT treated as Fusion Summons, such as the effect of Metamorphosis or Cyber-Stein. However, since it was never Fusion Summoned properly, it cannot then be revived via Monster Reborn or a similar card at a later time.

 

The most confusing case is probably that of the Hex-Sealed Fusions. For example, suppose you control a face-up "Cyber Dragon" and a face-up "The Light - Hex-Sealed Fusion", and have "Power Bond" in your hand. Since Power Bond's effect is treated as a Fusion Summon, you can NOT use it to combine Cyber Dragon and The Light to form Cyber Twin Dragon, as Fusion Substitute Monsters cannot be used in a Fusion Summon of Cyber Twin Dragon. HOWEVER, you CAN use the effect of "The Light - Hex-Sealed Fusion" to tribute Cyber Dragon and The Light in order to Special Summon a Cyber Dragon. This is because The Light's effect does not contain the text "(This Special Summon is treated as a Fusion Summon.)" Since it isn't considered a Fusion Summon, the summoning restriction of Cyber Twin Dragon does not apply in this case allowing The Light to replace a Cyber Dragon for the purposes of its own effect.

 

 

2. "This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Fusion Summon."

 

If the Fusion Monster in question contains this text, that monster cannot be Special Summoned except by the effect of "Polymerization", "Fusion Gate", or by the effect of a card that says "(This Special Summon is treated as a Fusion Summon.)" Therefore, cards such as Cyber-Stein and Metamorphosis will not work. However, Fusion Substitute Monsters CAN be used as part of the Fusion Summon. For example, you can use Miracle Fusion to fuse Elemental Hero Sparkman and King of the Swamp to form Elemental Hero Shining Flare Wingman.

 

Note that, since the effects of Hex-Sealed Fusions aren't considered Fusion Summons, you cannot use their effects of tributing monsters on the field to Special Summon a Fusion Monster without Polymerization if that Fusion Monster contains this text. However, you can still use Hex-Sealed Fusions as Fusion Substitute Monsters for the effects of cards that ARE considered Fusion Summons, such as Polymerization.

 

 

There are a few monsters, such as Rainbow Neos, that say "This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Fusion Summon with the above Fusion Material Monsters." These Fusion Monsters are the hardest to summon, as they have all of the above restrictions; forms of Special Summon other than Fusion Summon (i.e. Metamorphosis) cannot be used, and when Fusion Summoning such a monster, Fusion Substitute Monsters (i.e. King of the Swamp) cannot be used. HOWEVER, cards whose effects change their names to match those of the Fusion Material Monsters can still be used, as they are treated as being the Fusion Material Monster itself rather than a substitute for one. For example, if you use Elemental Hero Prisma on the field to send Elemental Hero Neos from your deck to your graveyard, then use the effect of Phantom of Chaos on your field to remove Rainbow Dragon in your graveyard from play, Prisma and PoC are treated as "Elemental Hero Neos" and "Rainbow Dragon" respectively, so you can then activate Polymerization, send Prisma and PoC to the graveyard, and summon Rainbow Neos.

 

One last note: Future Fusion does not allow the use of Fusion Substitute Monsters. Ever.