masqurade Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [center][b]i have had this goal for a while to make my soul deck the ancient gears a top tier deck.(top tier decks are decks that commonly win tournaments and are very powerful. im pretty sure thats it blackwing are a top tier.) i know what some of you might think. ancient gears are slow clumpy or to weak. but i wont give up on them not for one second.i have the power to get field control and i can swarm(which is odd for ancient gears.) but it seems i lack in search control , draw control, and hand control. also my speed is a tad bit slow. any help would be great im open to anything. im going for a combo of the three basic stratieges,trashing geartown, tributing, fusion summoning ultimate and special or tribute summon golem. i know its four different deck types but i know its possible. now heres my deck.[/b][/center] monsters ancient gear x3 ancient gear cannon x3 ancient gear beast x2 ancient gear engineer x2 ancient gear knight x3 ancient gear golem x3 cyber phoenix x2 e hero prisma x2 king of swamp x2 spells ancient gear castle x2 ancient gear explosive ancient gear work shop x2 card rotator x2 power bond x2 limiter removal machine duplication x2 spell gear x2 polymerization x2 traps 3 micro ray x2 zero gravity extra ultimate ancient gear golem x3 edited it. i dont actually have all these cards so i really need help now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [b]>top tier[/b] Never. Non-Gadget gears aren't good. If you want a top tier deck, you need speed. This, doesn;t have that. A better way to run gears is malefics and Gadjiltron engine, mabye gear knight and gemini spark if you want, I don't recommend it. And thats still like tier 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 dude blackwings are pretty bad on topic : what is this i dont even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masqurade Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 there has to be a way to make them work i mean there are alot of card out there something has to work. can some one explain to my what tiers are in yugioh any way i had an idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 So apparently people can call Gallis tier 0 but nobody can say they want to try to make a tier 1 Ancient Gear deck. lolycm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masqurade Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1327106581' post='5773199'] So apparently people can call Gallis tier 0 but nobody can say they want to try to make a tier 1 Ancient Gear deck. lolycm. [/quote] i know i have skill with decks and i could take the easy root and make a blackwing or gallis but after i saw my old friend duel with the ag i knew that this is my deck. it wont be easy but i dont want easy i want a challenge. im asumming that ycm means y care man not big on texting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 OP assumes we're retards and don't know what tiers are. Lol. I know how to make consistent tier lists from tournement results, and BWs havnt been topping at all, they're nowhere near A or Top tier. Deck is a load of sh*t running bad cards, no offence but that's the truth. If you truly want a good deck, take away all the garbage and try MaleficGearTown. It has Gadjiltron dragon, the only GOOD ancient gear. Just scrap this... YCM is an acroynm for the forum you're on!? And you won't win even if you have YCS topping skills. The deck is just lackluster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masqurade Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 how do i increase speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='masqurade' timestamp='1327106856' post='5773201'] i know i have skill with decks and i could take the easy root and make a blackwing or gallis but after i saw my old friend duel with the ag i knew that this is my deck. it wont be easy but i dont want easy i want a challenge. im asumming that ycm means y care man not big on texting [/quote] I'm defending you. And ycm means Yugioh Card Maker. As in the site. [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1327106955' post='5773204'] OP assumes we're retards and don't know what tiers are. Lol. I know how to make consistent tier lists from tournement results, and BWs havnt been topping at all, they're nowhere near A or Top tier. Deck is a load of sh*t running bad cards, no offence but that's the truth. If you truly want a good deck, take away all the garbage and try MaleficGearTown. It has Gadjiltron dragon, the only GOOD ancient gear. Just scrap this... [/quote] He asked for Ancient Gears. If he wanted Malefic Geartown, he'd ask for it. If he wanted Gadgets, guess what? He'd ask for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1327107037' post='5773207'] I'm defending you. And ycm means Yugioh Card Maker. As in the site. He asked for Ancient Gears. If he wanted Malefic Geartown, he'd ask for it. If he wanted Gadgets, guess what? He'd ask for it. [/quote] <__< I made myself look like the biggest prick on the site, didn't I? Anyway, Pot Of Duality at 3 is a good way to increase consistency. Try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masqurade Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1327106955' post='5773204'] OP assumes we're retards and don't know what tiers are. Lol. I know how to make consistent tier lists from tournement results, and BWs havnt been topping at all, they're nowhere near A or Top tier. Deck is a load of sh*t running bad cards, no offence but that's the truth. If you truly want a good deck, take away all the garbage and try MaleficGearTown. It has Gadjiltron dragon, the only GOOD ancient gear. Just scrap this... YCM is an acroynm for the forum you're on!? And you won't win even if you have YCS topping skills. The deck is just lackluster. [/quote] i see what you getting at i was kinda running out of ideas but dont you think malificgeartown deck would be to stopable im mean if they get rid of gear town to fast or even field barrier or they remove from play aggd id be screwed i tried that before and it was no good if possible i would like to incorperate the three stratagies above that way its harder to counterim not a huge fan of synchros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Mashing 3 strategies together is not how you make a good deck. It ruins the synergy and slows the deck down. You should pick one version and stick with it. To give you an idea. [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1313348557' post='5442499'] [b]Monster - 21[/b] Ancient Gear x3 Ancient Gear Cannon x3 Ancient Gear Golem x3 Prisma x3 Giant Rat x3 Junk Synchron x3 Earth Hex x3 [b]Spell - 15[/b] Ancient Gear Workshop x3 Future Fusion Heavy Storm Gold Sarcoph x3 Machine Dupe x2 Reborn Power Bond x3 RotA [b]Trap - 4[/b] Royal Decree x3 Solemn Judgment [b]Extra - 15[/b] Ultimiate Golem x3 Various Synchros/Xyz x12 [/quote] This is quite an old deck, so I'm sure it could be sped up. EDIT: You shouldn't worry too much about being countered (that's what siding is for), competitive dueling is getting your strategy to be setup faster than your opponent's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masqurade Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1327107330' post='5773214'] <__< I made myself look like the biggest prick on the site, didn't I? Anyway, Pot Of Duality at 3 is a good way to increase consistency. Try it. [/quote] not really i did say i try anything [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1327107465' post='5773220'] Mashing 3 strategies together is not how you make a good deck. It ruins the synergy and slows the deck down. You should pick one version and stick with it. To give you an idea. This is quite an old deck, so I'm sure it could be sped up. EDIT: You shouldn't worry too much about being countered (that's what siding is for), competitive dueling is getting your strategy to be setup faster than your opponent's. [/quote] ok picking one strategy well i have to go with gear golem rush the idea is to special summon golem and ultimate is there a way that is possiable to still have engineer new deck same extra monters ancient gear golem x3 earth hex sealed fusion x2 gaint rat x1 ancient gear engineer x2 ancient gear beast x 2 ancient gear dragon x2 ancient gear knight x2 cyber valley x1 (draw power) cyber phoenix x2 (draw power and target effect) e hero prisma x2 e hero stratos spells ancient gear workshop x2 polymerazation x2 spell gear x1 future fusion ancient gear drill x2 trade-in x2 power bond x2 geartown x3 traps destruct potion wild tornadox2 magical hats damage vaccine max is this an improvement or fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Try to fit in some E-HERO Prismas and a Stratos. Prisma can dump Golemn and replace it for the fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masqurade Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1327110291' post='5773284'] Try to fit in some E-HERO Prismas and a Stratos. Prisma can dump Golemn and replace it for the fusion. [/quote] my town is big on e heros so it wont be easy but will do two questions. any other problems. and how many cards should be in this deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I'm going to give you a cool gemini variant skeleton I like to use x3 Gear Knight x3 Neos Alius x1 Stratos x3 Gadjiltraon Dragon x2 Emergency Call x2 Gear Workshop x3 Gemini Spark x2 Terraforming x3 Trade-In x2 Miracle Fusion x2 HERO Blast x2 E-HERO Gaia x1 E-HERO Shining x1 E-HERO Tornado Fill in the blanks with techs, staples, whatever you see fit. EDIT: You can use prisma and Golem if you want to fuse, which is pretty cool if you think about it, and if you happen to dead draw a golem, you can always trade-in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Alway always ALWAYS keep it at 40. 42 is acceptable, but 40 is prefered. Update the opening post with a build and we can work from there. And also, I'm assuming this is irl so I'll try to keep that in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masqurade Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1327110806' post='5773290'] Alway always ALWAYS keep it at 40. 42 is acceptable, but 40 is prefered. Update the opening post with a build and we can work from there. And also, I'm assuming this is irl so I'll try to keep that in mind. [/quote] how do i update post with a build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Click the "Edit" button at the botom right of the post you want to edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masqurade Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 i think the edited one is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='masqurade' timestamp='1327112878' post='5773325'] i think the edited one is better [/quote] Its still really random. Go on DN, try something like mine. I've been testing it and its pretty good, and cheap irl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Ctrl+Alt+Win' timestamp='1327114148' post='5773361'] Its still really random. Go on DN, try something like mine. I've been testing it and its pretty good, and cheap irl. [/quote] The problem is he said he wanted UAGG turbo and you gave him a Gemini build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Oh. Idk how thats possible.. Power bond, chain material, otk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masqurade Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='Ctrl+Alt+Win' timestamp='1327114890' post='5773384'] Oh. Idk how thats possible.. Power bond, chain material, otk? [/quote] power bond does not start a chain thank good thanks but no thanks on the gemini build i want to try to stay with the arch type and away from synchros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 [quote name='masqurade' timestamp='1327115070' post='5773388'] power bond does not start a chain thank good thanks but no thanks on the gemini build i want to try to stay with the arch type and away from synchrosY [/quote]chain material is a trap card and bond does start a chain and you should use grammar because its hard to read it when you write like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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