Valkyrus Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 [img]http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb278/mario1092/sspaladin2.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Change "Solidarity" to "Continuous Spell" and I'd love it. Spellcasters can spam 2 monsters easily. 3 is where problems happen. It perfect for what it is except for the fix I gave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1327694994' post='5783962'] Change "Solidarity" to "Continuous Spell" and I'd love it. Spellcasters can spam 2 monsters easily. 3 is where problems happen. It perfect for what it is except for the fix I gave. [/quote] wouldn't that break it though? I meant for it to only be able to boost its ATK and annoy/scare your opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 don't really see anything wrong with this you going to make some custom Solidarity cards to better help this one out though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1327696579' post='5783998'] you going to make some custom Solidarity cards to better help this one out though? [/quote] Would be nice if you'd actually do your research before commenting ragnarok, then you would know that Solidarity is an actual card. OT: Ieyasu is correct, 3 Level 4 Spellcasters might be too much. 2 Level 4 Spellcasters would do it justice. And the fix that Ieyasu suggested is good as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1327695566' post='5783976'] wouldn't that break it though? I meant for it to only be able to boost its ATK and annoy/scare your opponent. [/quote] Name one continuous Spell Card that would break this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1327703514' post='5784148'] Name one continuous Spell Card that would break this. [/quote] well it's not the fact that one would break it, but this card's effect isn't once per turn. So if the effect is fixed to add continuous spell cards, you could add 3 Cont./Equip Spells at once to your hand, from anywhere. I just think the sheer variety of cards and possible combinations might, in some way, find a way to be abused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormented Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 The concept of the card is really nice, I still have to catch up with all the Xyz stuff but from what I gather this card seems to do the job which you situated it for, Other than what has already been stated, I have nothing much more to say. Good Job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1327708663' post='5784314'] well it's not the fact that one would break it, but this card's effect isn't once per turn. So if the effect is fixed to add continuous spell cards, you could add 3 Cont./Equip Spells at once to your hand, from anywhere. I just think the sheer variety of cards and possible combinations might, in some way, find a way to be abused. [/quote] Then make it once per turn maybe? I mean, it's not like equip and continuous spells are good in today's meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickAnderson Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I absolutely love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='ToRmEnTeD' timestamp='1327711626' post='5784419'] The concept of the card is really nice, I still have to catch up with all the Xyz stuff but from what I gather this card seems to do the job which you situated it for, Other than what has already been stated, I have nothing much more to say. Good Job. [/quote] [quote name='DickAnderson' timestamp='1327716736' post='5784615'] I absolutely love it! [/quote] Thanks! ^^ [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1327715833' post='5784585'] Then make it once per turn maybe? I mean, it's not like equip and continuous spells are good in today's meta. [/quote] It was meant to be able to do it more than once per turn so it can become a huge beatstick (add 3x Solidarity to your hand while running an all-Spellcasters deck => a 4400 beatstick off the bat. Also, together with hidden village of spellcasters its second effect makes it so your opponent can activate no Spells and only 1 Trap per turn, limiting their moves a lot. I think I might add a Field Spell card instead of Continuous though, because of village. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 That's honestly the biggest abuse it has. I don't see any other Continuous Spell that would actually break this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1327729189' post='5784994'] That's honestly the biggest abuse it has. I don't see any other Continuous Spell that would actually break this thing. [/quote] that's why I don't want to add more to the effect. But it has 3 specific-type materials so I don't see why a little abuse like that is bad, especially if it's (mostly) only have to do with ATK and DEF gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 ...I just realized something.. Summon this > set scapegoat > have SLP survive a turn > activate scapegoat after your opponent's Battle Phase > SS 4 tokens > on your turn use SLP's effect to grab 3x United We Stand > Equip all to SLP > have it gain 12000 ATK > ??? > Profit not sure if this combo breaks it though, it forces you to run 3x United and Scapegoat in a Spellcaster deck.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanPark24 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Spellsworn. It's like Lightsworn, but with spells. You're so clever! Anyway, the girl in the picture looks like she was drug off of the street in all of her filth and had demon wings grafter into her back by mad scientists, but that's just me. Overall, the card is good if you're strategy centers around Solidarity, which almost no strategy does. Ooh, and you added a little Great Shogun to it. Nice touch <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1327734794' post='5785078'] ...I just realized something.. Summon this > set scapegoat > have SLP survive a turn > activate scapegoat after your opponent's Battle Phase > SS 4 tokens > on your turn use SLP's effect to grab 3x United We Stand > Equip all to SLP > have it gain 12000 ATK > ??? > Profit not sure if this combo breaks it though, it forces you to run 3x United and Scapegoat in a Spellcaster deck.. [/quote] That requires for it to a] survive a turn b] have 4 materials. Did you even read your own card? :s The only reason that this would be run as it is right now is because of it's lock with Secret Village of the Spellcasters, where your opponent can only activate 1 Trap per turn and that's it. But that's bad and so is this. Buff it's attack to something better like 2500 and make it get Continuous Spells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='Professor Kokonoe' timestamp='1327741596' post='5785156'] That requires for it to a] survive a turn b] have 4 materials. Did you even read your own card? :s The only reason that this would be run as it is right now is because of it's lock with Secret Village of the Spellcasters, where your opponent can only activate 1 Trap per turn and that's it. But that's bad and so is this. Buff it's attack to something better like 2500 and make it get Continuous Spells. [/quote] [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1327734794' post='5785078'] Summon this > set scapegoat > [b]have SLP survive a turn [/b]> activate scapegoat after your opponent's Battle Phase > SS 4 tokens > on your turn use SLP's effect to grab 3x United We Stand > Equip all to SLP > have it gain 12000 ATK > ??? > Profit [/quote] Yeah, because I didn't say it has to survive a turn. Also, let me teach you a bit of math: 5 monsters on my side (this + 4 tokens) 3 materials > grab 3 United 1 United = 800 ATK per monster 3 United= 800+800+800= 2400 ATK per monster 2400 x 5 = 12000. Go back to grade school. And yeah, the fact it's a walking OTK isn't threatening at all, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1327750352' post='5785193'] Yeah, because I didn't say it has to survive a turn. Also, let me teach you a bit of math: 5 monsters on my side (this + 4 tokens) 3 materials > grab 3 United 1 United = 800 ATK per monster 3 United= 800+800+800= 2400 ATK per monster 2400 x 5 = 12000. Go back to grade school. And yeah, the fact it's a walking OTK isn't threatening at all, is it? [/quote] still s***. Requires you to run 3 United and Scapegoat, both of which are bad outside of specific decks. This also requires you to play Spellcasters, which is also bad. Honestly this is just terrible the way it is right now and you're not accepting it as per usual. Sure, it's an OTK. But Celtic Guardian has an OTK as well. Doesn't make it good at all. This is actually extremely bad because it makes you to have to run multiple of subpar cards which probably wouldn't even last during the turn that you play them, let alone more. And I know you said it had to survive the turn, but that enough makes it bad. :l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='Professor Kokonoe' timestamp='1327751192' post='5785207'] still s***. Requires you to run 3 United and Scapegoat, both of which are bad outside of specific decks. This also requires you to play Spellcasters, which is also bad. Honestly this is just terrible the way it is right now and you're not accepting it as per usual. Sure, it's an OTK. But Celtic Guardian has an OTK as well. Doesn't make it good at all. This is actually extremely bad because it makes you to have to run multiple of subpar cards which probably wouldn't even last during the turn that you play them, let alone more. And I know you said it had to survive the turn, but that enough makes it bad. :l [/quote] well as bad as it might be, it's still tons more creative than half the cards in this section. I guess creativity counts for s*** around here though. Pity, really. This game used to be about having fun. And I think this is an extremely fun card. Second effect fits the Spellcaster theme as well, so it's also in character/ Also this has many more ways to OTK other than the ones I mentioned. Gagagas can be used to summon it fast, doesn't really need Hidden Village for anything. Also 3x United can boost it up to 9200 ATK with 2 more monsters on your side so Scapegoat is actually just overkill, Dandylion can do the work. So there you go, you need Gagaga magician/girl/Summoner Monk/etc , Dandylion and 3x United. Another potential OTK. Pretty sure there are more, and more consistent ones. I don't know how many times I should say it too, I don't give two shits about what's played in the meta. I make cards for fun. That thing they're supposed to be. Yeah, it's a game! Want me to find you the definition in the dictionary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1327752138' post='5785214'] well as bad as it might be, it's still tons more creative than half the cards in this section. I guess creativity counts for s*** around here though. Pity, really. This game used to be about having fun. And I think this is an extremely fun card. Second effect fits the Spellcaster theme as well, so it's also in character/ Also this has many more ways to OTK other than the ones I mentioned. Gagagas can be used to summon it fast, doesn't really need Hidden Village for anything. Also 3x United can boost it up to 9200 ATK with 2 more monsters on your side so Scapegoat is actually just overkill, Dandylion can do the work. So there you go, you need Gagaga magician/girl/Summoner Monk/etc , Dandylion and 3x United. Another potential OTK. Pretty sure there are more, and more consistent ones. I don't know how many times I should say it too, I don't give two shits about what's played in the meta. I make cards for fun. That thing they're supposed to be. Yeah, it's a game! Want me to find you the definition in the dictionary? [/quote] so tl;dr You post cards for +1 post count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='Professor Kokonoe' timestamp='1327752262' post='5785215'] so tl;dr You post cards for +1 post count. [/quote] BAHAHAHA, ROFL, totally! And because you have 12x my posts you have achieved something great in your life. Even then, I bet I've put more work into a card than you ever have. Not to mention you have the habit of stealing my cards, so that says something too. But oh well, haha, thanks for the laugh! oh! If you're still having those short attention spans, here's a really nice tl;dr for you: stop posting in my threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1327754455' post='5785226'] BAHAHAHA, ROFL, totally! And because you have 12x my posts you have achieved something great in your life. Even then, I bet I've put more work into a card than you ever have. Not to mention you have the habit of stealing my cards, so that says something too. But oh well, haha, thanks for the laugh! oh! If you're still having those short attention spans, here's a really nice tl;dr for you: stop posting in my threads. [/quote] >I offer good advice >you constantly reject it with unwitty remarks and often quite idiotic replies. Sure, I'll stop posting in your threads. Have fun getting comments from only Ragnarok, which is advise which just says what the card does pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 [quote name='Professor Kokonoe' timestamp='1327755486' post='5785237'] >I offer good advice >you constantly reject it with unwitty remarks and often quite idiotic replies. Sure, I'll stop posting in your threads. Have fun getting comments from only Ragnarok, which is advise which just says what the card does pretty much. [/quote] > you offered advice that was already offered. Also, whether your advice is good is completely your opinion. > at what point exactly did you think I cared what you had to say? I've made it obvious many many many times that I don't want you posting in my threads. and I'll get comments, don't you worry about me, as surprising as it is this forum does not consist of only you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Whether something is good or not shouldn't be subjective. Honestly, take some criticism, and take some advice. If you want to have an ego, at least be able to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 You're missing the point, as per usual. When more than 2 people already say that the card is bad and could use a boost, it's usually best to actually listen because those people are actually like, good at YGO etc. etc. And really, you're still on about Koko "stealing" your card when she clearly did not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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