Althemia Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1328305767' post='5797156'] And I do play Schet And Safe Zone is not as good here as you think it is. [/quote] Neither is Fiendish. :s And yeah, you shouldn't need Leonis if you use Schet how you're supposed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Professor Kokonoe' timestamp='1328305838' post='5797159'] Neither is Fiendish. :s And yeah, you shouldn't need Leonis if you use Schet how you're supposed to. [/quote] Obviously you'll always have Schet with Sheratan in opening hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectralMaliceX Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I finished lurking here so will be right back going to test this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='.Nu-13' timestamp='1328305921' post='5797162'] Obviously you'll always have Schet with Sheratan in opening hand. [/quote] Besides, what's wrong with playing Sheratan first turn? It's great first turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Leonis isn't needed indeed, but it was a very good addition. Did you try it? If it didn't work for you, then okay, but it's doing very well for me. Besides, as I said, the main structure didn't change, and neither did the win condition. In a combo deck, having more combo options is good. And Sheratan first turn is great. But Leonis + Sheratan first turn is even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Professor Kokonoe' timestamp='1328305993' post='5797166'] Besides, what's wrong with playing Sheratan first turn? It's great first turn. [/quote] Opening with a Ptolemys and drawing off the Star or with a Zenmaines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectralMaliceX Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Are you both butt buddies? She/he posted a deck idea that works for him/her end off. GG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='SpectralMaliceX' timestamp='1328306206' post='5797177'] Are you both butt buddies? She/he posted a deck idea that works for him/her end off. GG. [/quote] It was a collab as it was said in OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectralMaliceX Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Still works for his/her duels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='SpectralMaliceX' timestamp='1328306484' post='5797189'] Still works for his/her duels. [/quote] Mine too. Just Kokonoe is...pretty stubborn at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I'll just throw this out here now, before someone throws a fit about TC ignoring advice or dares to point out the Jack Witt clause at a time when it does not apply. Personal style and preference is a perfectly acceptable argument against criticism or advice, as is experience with the Deck. The times when it is NOT okay is when one's defense of their card choices blatantly hinges on ignorance and stubbornness. Also, taking liberties with the "standard" build in favor of a different style or tech choice is perfectly legitimate. Again, unless it's blatantly inferior and the defense amounts to "shut the hell up, I'm doing it my way". No problems here. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Thanks evilfusion. The other version of the deck have different details, but the focus is still the same. Leonis has been doing very well for me. I can test hand traps instead of CotH and Fiendish Chain, and side Leonis for CyDra when needed. The details of the deck are very flexible, as long as you keep the main core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1328307181' post='5797214'] Thanks evilfusion. The other version of the deck have different details, but the focus is still the same. Leonis has been doing very well for me. I can test hand traps instead of CotH and Fiendish Chain, and side Leonis for CyDra when needed. The details of the deck are very flexible, as long as you keep the main core. [/quote] The focus [i]isn't the same[/i]. You have to generally focus on Rank 3s and Rank 4s to play this properly... I've been trying to argue this all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Just tested and I'm agreeing that Leonis isn't exactly bad, though it isn't exactly needed either. Though I do suggest some hand traps and whatnot. Warrior Returning Alive never helped me against Lily, so it might just go. This deck doesn't have the same focus either. It's more 3-4 oriented as opposed to 4-5 oriented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Warrior Returning Alive was just a wild idea, I replaced it for Super Rebirth. Let me update the OP. Well, you can say the deck has "2" focuses, but that actually means more options. A combo deck with more diverse options is good in my opinion. You may disagree, saying that the main focus is weakened by this, but I didn't see that in the testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1328307420' post='5797218'] Warrior Returning Alive was just a wild idea, I replaced it for Super Rebirth. Let me update the OP. Well, you can say the deck has "2" focuses, but that actually means more options. A combo deck with more diverse options is good in my opinion. You may disagree, saying that the main focus is weakened by this, but I didn't see that in the testing. [/quote] You can say Koko's deck has "2" focuses. Normal Summon Pollux. Normal Summon Kaust. Pollux and Kaust to lvl 3. OoO Your focus is 3-4 oriented. You can make 5s (I won my duel due to Volca), but you can't say it's 3-5 oriented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328307540' post='5797219'] Your focus is 3-4 oriented. You can make 5s (I won my duel due to Volca), but you can't say it's 3-5 oriented. [/quote] Doesn't this build play the same Sacred lineup as Koko's + Leonis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1328307420' post='5797218'] Warrior Returning Alive was just a wild idea, I replaced it for Super Rebirth. Let me update the OP. Well, you can say the deck has "2" focuses, but that actually means more options. A combo deck with more diverse options is good in my opinion. You may disagree, saying that the main focus is weakened by this, but I didn't see that in the testing. [/quote] What you did see, me and Meta certainly didn't. Sorry, but eh. :l You need to focus on the Rank 3/4 spam more. That's ideally the only way that the deck can go from here on in, as you really can't get Rank 5s out seeing as how Leonis generally slows that down. Run more Hyades and another Beehive, then take out a Rank 5 and a Pleiades. @Above: It does, except I play Level 5s that I can actually spam out fast. You don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='.Nu-13' timestamp='1328307683' post='5797223'] Doesn't this build play the same Sacred lineup as Koko's + Leonis? [/quote] It runs the same Sacred line-up. Then it techs Leonis, where Koko techs Ghost Ship. Do you see the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 That's the only difference. I'm glad the Rank 4 sacreds aren't bad on their own, but I know they're not as good as Pleiades. They are still Ptolemys fooder as well. And other generic Rank 4s might come in handy. Pleiades is still going to be played a lot here, but I'll be running 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328307771' post='5797230'] It runs the same Sacred line-up. Then it techs Leonis, where Koko techs Ghost Ship. Do you see the difference? [/quote] Oh, true. But then again, she played just 1, no? Or did it change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='.Nu-13' timestamp='1328308035' post='5797240'] Oh, true. But then again, she played just 1, no? Or did it change? [/quote] [img]http://i.imgur.com/joSfK.jpg[/img] Since you want to netdeck me so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='.Nu-13' timestamp='1328308035' post='5797240'] Oh, true. But then again, she played just 1, no? Or did it change? [/quote] Yes she plays 1, but she doesn't play Leonis. She doesn't have any way outside of Kaust to make Rank 3s. You have Leonis to make Rank 3s. She also plays hand traps that take up her monster spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Professor Kokonoe' timestamp='1328308109' post='5797246'] [img]http://i.imgur.com/joSfK.jpg[/img] Since you want to netdeck me so much. [/quote] No thanks, I have much more luck with this build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='.Nu-13' timestamp='1328308191' post='5797250'] No thanks, I have much more luck with this build. [/quote] Twas a joke. But yeah, ideally this should be focusing on the Rank 3s and 4s. It won't be going into Rank 5 as much and you should be playing at least 2 Hyades and 2 Beehive, seeing as how they're going to be amazing for this deck in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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