Blake Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1328387907' post='5799167'] Ok, since you will not believe logic, read the rules. If you cant figure it out, the number is the number of cards with the same name. And sure, I would be happy to post the whole quote. [/quote] Where did you get that "rule" from? =/ And you just proved your idiocy The context of the sentence was talking about its proportion to a card sharing its name =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted February 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 hey guys you should settle this in a duel loool =_= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Ah, mr. Clover wishes to know where to read the rules. No problem mr. Clover! Please head over yonder to the OFFICIAL RULE BOOK: [url="http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/YGO_RuleBook_EN-v8.pdf"]http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/YGO_RuleBook_EN-v8.pdf[/url] and read the rules! Page 43 contains the quote in question. In any case, regarding your own quote, the only reasonable interpretation is the following: 'Since mirror force itself is banned and not the name, it would not affect this card.' This statement is entirely false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 The rule is: You can only contain 3 cards of the same name in your Main Deck, Side Deck or Extra Deck combined. There is absolutely no reference to the banlist having any control over this regarding same names, apart from the usual. The banlist from Konami only ever controls individual cards, and not their names. This is mainly due to the banlist wanting to avoid interference with the actual game, and rather only competitive play. Last time I checked, we're the ones who frequent TCG, not the hellhole that's Realistic Cards. [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1328388317' post='5799199'] hey guys you should settle this in a duel loool =_= [/quote] If thekazu4u's up for it, I'd happy go make his Shine Balls sore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1328388438' post='5799203'] Ah, mr. Clover wishes to know where to read the rules. No problem mr. Clover! Please head over yonder to the OFFICIAL RULE BOOK: [url="http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/YGO_RuleBook_EN-v8.pdf"]http://www.yugioh-ca...eBook_EN-v8.pdf[/url] and read the rules! Page 43 contains the quote in question. In any case, regarding your own quote, the only reasonable interpretation is the following: 'Since mirror force itself is banned and not the name, it would not affect this card.' This statement is entirely false. [/quote] That says nothing about the banlist =/ What Cursed/Rai said stands. No, you just took my quote out of context to make me look like an idiot and failed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 And sure I would be happy to duel. And please check the Rulebook. I am sure you will find it quite enlightening. Also, last time I checked competitive play is the actual game. AND YES IT DOES say something about the banlist, ON PAGE 43 like I originally stated. I will post the complete quote since you seem to enjoy these so much. [QUOTE] Forbidden & Limited Cards Normally, your Deck (including Extra Deck and Side Deck) can contain up to 3 copies of a card that has the same name. However, certain cards have specific quantity restrictions that further limit the number that can be included in a Deck. There are 3 types of restrictions: Limited cards are restricted to 1 copy in a Deck, while Semi-Limited Cards are restricted to 2 copies in a Deck. Forbidden cards are not allowed to be included at all. The list of Forbidden and Limited cards is updated regularly and is posted on the Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG Official Website. This list is applied to official tournaments so please check it before participating. Official Website: www.yugioh-card.com [/QUOTE] Try reading the rules CLOSELY. And also try reading your own quote over closely. You never say anything along the lines of IF mirror force WAS banned or the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 If the rulebook wished to cover this issue, it would say: There are 3 types of restrictions: Limited cards with the same name are restricted to 1 copy in a Deck, while Semi-Limited cards with the same name are restricted to 2 copies in a Deck. Forbidden cards with the same name are not allowed to be included at all. The list of Forbidden and Limited cards is updated regularly and is posted on the Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG Official Website. [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1328388706' post='5799221'] And sure I would be happy to duel. And please check the Rulebook. I am sure you will find it quite enlightening. Also, last time I checked competitive play is the actual game. [/quote] Relius? Up for it, unfortunately DN is spazzing out on me. But considering this, I doubt thekazu4u even has DN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted February 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1328388469' post='5799206'] If thekazu4u's up for it, I'd happy go make his Shine Balls sore. [/quote] lol i was joking btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1328388817' post='5799232'] lol i was joking btw [/quote] Then keep your spam elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1328388706' post='5799221'] And sure I would be happy to duel. And please check the Rulebook. I am sure you will find it quite enlightening. Also, last time I checked competitive play is the actual game. AND YES IT DOES say something about the banlist, ON PAGE 43 like I originally stated. I will post the complete quote since you seem to enjoy the se so much. Try reading the rules CLOSELY. And also try reading your own quote over closely. You never say anything along the lines of IF mirror force WAS banned or the like. [/quote] PAge 43 doesn't mention the banlist in relation to this argument. Please, quit while you're behind. It was talking hypothetically. Stop being stupid. Though, we should really stop this argument in here. We're derailing the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1328389102' post='5799244'] Actually that basically is what it does say. Yea, I do have DN. My name is quite creative: thekazu4u. I completely understand that you would have never thought of checking this name because it is so incredibly different from my YCM username before making this post. Should .rai be unwiling to duel because his DN is "spazzing out" then I would be happy to play clover. [/quote] As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't contain the 'with the same name' clause so it disregards this. And luckily, my DN has decided to work now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1328388764' post='5799226'] If the rulebook wished to cover this issue, it would say: There are 3 types of restrictions: Limited cards with the same name are restricted to 1 copy in a Deck, while Semi-Limited cards with the same name are restricted to 2 copies in a Deck. Forbidden cards with the same name are not allowed to be included at all. The list of Forbidden and Limited cards is updated regularly and is posted on the Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG Official Website. [/QUOTE] Actually that basically is what it does say. [QUOTE] Relius? Up for it, unfortunately DN is spazzing out on me. But considering this, I doubt thekazu4u even has DN. [/quote] Yea, I do have DN. My name is quite creative: thekazu4u. I completely understand that you would have never thought of checking this name because it is so incredibly different from my YCM username before making this post. Should .rai be unwiling to duel because his DN is "spazzing out" then I would be happy to play clover.[quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1328388937' post='5799237'] PAge 43 doesn't mention the banlist in relation to this argument. [/quote] Ah, that is why you are wrong. It specifically states NAME. Again, I recommend you read the rules CLOSELY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted February 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1328388937' post='5799237'] Though, we should really stop this argument in here. We're derailing the topic. [/quote] no no it's fine by me i actually wanna know what is the end of this argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1328389167' post='5799248'] As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't contain the 'with the same name' clause so it disregards this. [/quote] You are correct. Fortunately it contains the 'that has the same name' clause which has the same meaning. @wwecena I am afraid this argument will not have an end because they seem to not be able to read the rules. However, I invite YOU to read the rules and see how it SHOULD end. @.rai should I host or you? What is your username? I am assuming this will be a rated 2/3 game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1328389171' post='5799244'] Actually that basically is what it does say. Ah, that is why you are wrong. It specifically states NAME. Again, I recommend you read the rules CLOSELY. [/quote] I'm reading it. I'm not seeing anything except your fabricated logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1328389245' post='5799254'] You are correct. Fortunately it contains the 'that has the same name' clause which has the same meaning. [/quote] Are you genuinely retarded. Where does it perchance say this in the same paragraph I wrote? [IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/28i14t4.jpg[/IMG] Also, abandon topic. ZETSUBOU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 As for the quote, right here: [QUOTE] [color=#9BA2A9][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Normally, your Deck (including Extra Deck and Side Deck) can contain up to 3 copies of a card [b]that has the same [/b][/size][/font][/color][b][b]name[/b][/b][color=#9BA2A9][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]. However, certain cards have specific quantity restrictions that further limit[/size][/font][/color] [b]the number[/b][color=#9BA2A9][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3] that can be included in a Deck[/size][/font][/color] [color=#9BA2A9][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][/QUOTE][/size][/font][/color] And sure, i am waiting to play. I have opened the duel (in unrated because I do not play people with 100 rating in rated) This will be a 2/3 game, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1328389824' post='5799282'] As for the quote, right here: [/size][/font][/color] And sure, i am waiting to play. I have opened the duel. [/quote] No. That says limit, but it doesn't mean in the sense of the banlist. It means: You can have 3 "Harpie Lady" but cards like "Harpie Lady #1" that count as "Harpie Lady" and limit the copis you can run because only 3 monsters that share a name can be run. That has nothing to do with the banlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1328389926' post='5799287'] No. That says limit, but it doesn't mean in the sense of the banlist. It means: You can have 3 "Harpie Lady" but cards like "Harpie Lady #1" that count as "Harpie Lady" and limit the copis you can run because only 3 monsters that share a name can be run. That has nothing to do with the banlist. [/quote] Quite obviously "THE NUMBER" refers to the number of cards with the same name. So stop trying desperately to interpret the rules in a dumb way and duel me in a 2/3 TCG match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1328390131' post='5799300'] Quite obviously "THE NUMBER" refers to the number of cards with the same name. So stop trying desperately to interpret the rules in a dumb way and duel me in a 2/3 TCG match. [/quote] ... Hi Pot, I don't know where Kettle is ._. I interpreted it as it's written, not in cockamamey "suit my desire" language. And what the hell does a duel solve, honestly? It doesn't make either of us right, in any way, and doesn't prove anything. Just makes you look even more like a newbie who thinks dueling solves everything =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1328390290' post='5799310'] ... Hi Pot, I don't know where Kettle is ._. I interpreted it as it's written, not in cockamamey "suit my desire" language. And what the hell does a duel solve, honestly? It doesn't make either of us right, in any way, and doesn't prove anything. Just makes you look even more like a newbie who thinks dueling solves everything =/ [/quote] OK WTF does 'the number' refer to in your language. I was challenged to a duel, so I will oblige Note that I was not the one that brought it up. Or do you mean that .rai is a "newbie who thinks dueling solves everything?" Nah, im sure not. You only want to insult me no matter how bad your logic is. Rai, I am still waiting - or do you wish to back out at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1328390531' post='5799322'] OK WTF does 'the number' refer to in your language. I was challenged to a duel, so I will oblige Note that I was not the one that brought it up. Or do you mean that .rai is a "newbie who thinks dueling solves everything?" Nah, im sure not. You only want to insult me no matter how bad your logic is. Rai, I am still waiting - or do you wish to back out at this point? [/quote] You keep insulting me ._. The number means the cards that share a name. You can't run 3 "Harpie Lady" when you run "Cyber Harpie Lady". Honestly, no, Cursed isn't, and I wasn't sayign he was, but you're the one harping on this duel whether you challenged it or not =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1328390702' post='5799328'] You keep insulting me ._. The number means the cards that share a name. You can't run 3 "Harpie Lady" when you run "Cyber Harpie Lady". Honestly, no, Cursed isn't, and I wasn't sayign he was, but you're the one harping on this duel whether you challenged it or not =/ [/quote] Exactly. The number means the cards that share a name. Thus we can translate the quote (note I am following the EXACT interpretation you just made: ORIGINAL: [Quote] C[color=#9BA2A9][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]ertain cards have specific quantity restrictions that further limit [/size][/font][/color][b]the number[/b][color=#9BA2A9][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3] that can be included in a Deck [/Quote][/size][/font][/color] [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#9ba2a9][size=3]Interpreted: [QUOTE] [/size][/color][/font] C[color=#9BA2A9][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]ertain cards have specific quantity restrictions that further limit [/size][/font][/color] [b]the cards that share a name[/b][color=#9BA2A9][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3] that can be included in a Deck [/QUOTE][/size][/font][/color] [color=#9BA2A9][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]My point exactly.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#9BA2A9][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]The two things I think are funny is that you accuse me of 'harping' on a duel that I did not start and now that the duel is opened, .rai will not accept it EVEN THOUGH he was the one that suggested it.[/size][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1328390986' post='5799341'] Exactly. The number means the cards that share a name. Thus we can translate the quote (note I am following the EXACT interpretation you just made: ORIGINAL: [/size][/font][/color] [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#9ba2a9][size=3]Interpreted: [/size][/color][/font] [/quote] It limits the card on the lsit, not the name. You're not using my logic, you're just pulling stuff out of your rear ._. OT: Just do what I said on age... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 I substituted the EXACT wording you gave me with the EXACT term you defined. How am I not using your logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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