Akeno_Ederis_17 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [img]http://i39.tinypic.com/fks4s1.jpg[/img] LORE: [size=5][b][color=#b22222]this card can only be summoned by it's own effect. once per duel if your life points are lower than your opponent's : you can pay 5000 life points; special summon this card then target 1 normal monster on your graveyard and special summon all cards from your hand,deck and graveyard monsters that have the same name as the targeted monster then send the top 5 cards of your deck to the graveyard. as long as this card remains face up on the field, double the damage you will receive from your opponent's cards. monster summoned by this card's effect are destroyed if a card is returned from field to graveyard or if this card leaves the field.[/color][/b][/size] [color=#B22222][size=5][b]comments,suggest and rate.........[/b][/size][/color] [color=#B22222][size=5][b] [/b][/size][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [spoiler=OCG Fix] Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) by paying 5000 life points while your life points are lower than your opponent's, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. When this card is Special Summoned: Target 1 Normal Monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon all copies of that monster from your hand, deck, or Graveyard. While this card is face-up on the field: Double any damage you recive from an opponent's card (by effect or battle). If this card is removed from the field: Send all monster Special Summoned by this card's effect to the Graveyard. [/spoiler] At least, I think that's right. Level 9... 2500 ATK... The card is a walking win condition that can be summoned via Upstart Goblin ._. I mean, with the effect, there are a plethora of monsters you can summon. It could easily lead to double Blade Armor Ninja, or Blade Armor Ninja and 2 Daigusto Emeral. It can bring out Xyz with no problem and use them to slaughter the opponent, then and there, as seen with Blade Armor Ninja. It's also screaming to run a 37 card deck, via 3 upstart goblin, and to run stuff like One Day of Peace as well. The card might not be broken in the meta, per se, but it's certainly broken card design. You also put way too many drawbacks if you want this to be more than an OTK card. Remove the double damage clause, but limit it in some way as far as ending the duel that turn, goes. IDK, half damage for a turn, or something of the sort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1328319439' post='5797632'] [spoiler=OCG Fix] Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) by paying 5000 life points while your life points are lower than your opponent's, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. When this card is Special Summoned: Target 1 Normal Monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon all copies of that monster from your hand, deck, or Graveyard. While this card is face-up on the field: Double any damage you recive from an opponent's card (by effect or battle). If this card is removed from the field: Send all monster Special Summoned by this card's effect to the Graveyard. [/spoiler] At least, I think that's right. Level 9... 2500 ATK... The card is a walking win condition that can be summoned via Upstart Goblin ._. I mean, with the effect, there are a plethora of monsters you can summon. It could easily lead to double Blade Armor Ninja, or Blade Armor Ninja and 2 Daigusto Emeral. It can bring out Xyz with no problem and use them to slaughter the opponent, then and there, as seen with Blade Armor Ninja. It's also screaming to run a 37 card deck, via 3 upstart goblin, and to run stuff like One Day of Peace as well. The card might not be broken in the meta, per se, but it's certainly broken card design. You also put way too many drawbacks if you want this to be more than an OTK card. Remove the double damage clause, but limit it in some way as far as ending the duel that turn, goes. IDK, half damage for a turn, or something of the sort? [/quote] Thank god now I can understand the card due to your OCG fix. Also, I disagree when you say this card is broken. Sure, it OTKs, but it is basically impossible to pull off such an OTK as a simple effect veiler blows the whole thing up, not to mention warning etc... I see it as if anything as a UP'd card. If according to you this card is broken I seriously do not see what you define as balanced. As for bad card design, meh. Normals need support, but this just makes a new Demise OTK (but weaker of course). They both play normals but just as an OTK condition. So overall, I think it is a slightly boring but UP'd card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1328319912' post='5797643'] Thank god now I can understand the card due to your OCG fix. Also, I disagree when you say this card is broken. Sure, it OTKs, but it is basically impossible to pull off such an OTK as a simple effect veiler blows the whole thing up, not to mention warning etc... I see it as if anything as a UP'd card. If according to you this card is broken I seriously do not see what you define as balanced. As for bad card design, meh. Normals need support, but this just makes a new Demise OTK (but weaker of course). They both play normals but just as an OTK condition. So overall, I think it is a slightly boring but UP'd card. [/quote] Arguing that a card can be countered is a bad argument. Go say that in the TCG section and they'll laugh you out of there. It's not impossible, it's very easy, given runnign a 34 card deck, basically, and up to 3 turns of takign no life point damage. Normals need balanced support. Not This. Not Rabbit. Demise was hit because it was an OTK, it's just not consistent enough anymore. This is broken because it's a potential +3 that easily gives you multiple broken Xyz. And I was only talking about rank 4 Warriors, whereas there is a lot more to do with it than that. The card pretty much exists TO OTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guuu1234 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 OTK=Bad Card Design. At least put some restriction on the damage you can deal, some limits on the monsters, something to make this a little more balanced. make it that all 3 copies have tio be in the Graveyard for the effect to work (though then i gues sit would be [i]situational [/i]which would be [i]worse.[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='guuu1234' timestamp='1328321922' post='5797710'] OTK=Bad Card Design. At least put some restriction on the damage you can deal, some limits on the monsters, something to make this a little more balanced. make it that all 3 copies have tio be in the Graveyard for the effect to work (though then i gues sit would be [i]situational [/i]which would be [i]worse.[/i] [/quote] Yeah, that would make it situational. Just limit the damage output for the turn as well as remove the Double Damage to self effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guuu1234 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1328322141' post='5797720'] Just limit the damage output for the turn as well as remove the Double Damage to self effect. [/quote] and suddenly all is well with this card. NEXT XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeno_Ederis_17 Posted February 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]HOW's this? :[/size][/font][/color] [size=5][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) by paying 5000 life points while your life points are lower than your opponent's, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. When this card is Special Summoned: Target 1 level 5 or higher Normal Monster in your [color=#ff0000][b]banished pile[/b];[/color] Special Summon all copies of that monster from your [b][color=#ff0000]Graveyard or banished pile. you cannot special summon other monsters on the same turn you used this card's effect. While this card is face-up on the field: players must pay 600 life points during each of their end phases if there are monsters with the same name on their own field if not destroy all cards on the field with the same name[/color].[/b] If this card is removed from the field: Send all monster Special Summoned by this card's effect to the Graveyard[color=#ff0000] [b]and take damage equal to the combined level of the monsters X 100[/b][/color][/font][/size] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]what do you think guys?? [/size][/font][/color] __[color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]edited__[/size][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='sIege-eI' timestamp='1328322716' post='5797738'] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]HOW's this? :[/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) by paying 5000 life points while your life points are lower than your opponent's, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. When this card is Special Summoned: Target 1 Normal Monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon all copies of that monster from your hand, deck, or Graveyard. You cannot Special Summon another monster during the turn you used this card's effect. While this card is face-up on the field: Players must pay 600 life points during each of their end phases if there are monsters with the same name on their own field or destroy those cards. If this card is removed from the field: Send all monster Special Summoned by this card's effect to the Graveyard.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]what do you w think guys?? [/size][/font][/color] [/quote] Fixed the OCG again And both of the new effects are meh =/ How about... "[color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma,helvetica,arial,sans-serif][size=3]You cannot Special Summon another monster with a different type than the monsters Special Summoned by this card's effect during this turn."[/size][/font][/color]? It solves the card's problems without making it unplayable... Though, you might want to add in ", and all damage your opponent would receive is halved until the End Phase" after "during this turn" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeno_Ederis_17 Posted February 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1328323159' post='5797751'] Fixed the OCG again And both of the new effects are meh =/ How about... "[color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma,helvetica,arial,sans-serif][size=3]You cannot Special Summon another monster with a different type than the monsters Special Summoned by this card's effect during this turn."[/size][/font][/color]? It solves the card's problems without making it unplayable... Though, you might want to add in ", and all damage your opponent would receive is halved until the End Phase" after "during this turn" [/quote] already updated its effect added some drawbacks... try refreshing the page ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 ... All you had to do what I said. Now you just murdered your own card O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeno_Ederis_17 Posted February 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1328323715' post='5797774'] ... All you had to do what I said. Now you just murdered your own card O.o [/quote] oww poor card..guess ill just laugh at it xD.. god.. xD the main purpose i made it was for blue eyes white dragon xD.. why cant i fix this card xD ok another try: [size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) by paying 5000 life points while your life points are lower than your opponent's, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. When this card is Special Summoned: Target 1 Normal Monster in your [/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][b]banished pile[/b];[/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif] Special Summon all copies of that monster from your [/font][b]Graveyard and banished pile. you cannot special summon other monsters on the same turn you used this card's effect.[/b][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif] any damage your opponent would take as a result of battle involving the monsters summoned by this card are halved. If this card is removed from the field, Send all monster Special Summoned by this card's effect to the Graveyard[/font][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif].[/font][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Ok seriously what is this with "piles." There is NO such thing as a pile so stop writing it in your card text. And the second suggestion Relius did is all you needed to do to make the card perfectly balanced. now it is basically useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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