Wulf/Beast Support (even more)

[thekazu4u]

[img]http://yugico.com/customcard/25417.jpg[/img]
[color=#000000][font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif][size=3][left]When this card is Normal Summoned: You can Special Summon one "Wulfguard" from your Deck in face-up Attack Position. If this card is Special Summoned: its ATK and DEF are doubled.[/left][/size][/font][/color]
[left][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/25419.jpg[/img][/left]
[left][color=#000000][font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif][size=3]When this card inflicts damage to your opponent's Life Pints: Special Summon 1 "Wulfguard" from your Hand, Deck, or Graveyard. When this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard: you can add 1 "Wulfshaman" from your Deck to you hand.[/size][/font][/color][/left]
[left][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/25434.jpg[/img][/left]
[left][color=#000000][font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif][size=3]Activate only when 1 Face-Down monster you control is selected as an attack target: return that Face-Down Monster to your hand and Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Beast-Type monster from your Deck; the Special Summoned monster becomes the new attack target. When this card is removed from the field, destroy that monster. When that monster is destroyed, destroy this card.[/size][/font][/color][/left]


[left][font="Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif"][size="2"][color="#000000"]All in all, swarm w/ XYZ capabilities.[/color][/size][/font][/left]

[ragnarok1945]

really good pics you got here

for Wulfshaman, the 2nd effect is fine for the adding to the hand. However I'd add in the effect that you can't normal/special summon it from your hand until next turn, just to slow down the recycling effect

[Sander]

Wulfguard is broken. It's an instant Rank 2 Normal Summon, + it allows to make shenanigans with Horn of the Phantom Beast. Wulfshaman is broken, as well, because of the fact that it's an continuous Level 4 Summoner that allows countless Synchro / Xyz plays. Remove "from the Graveyard" from the first effect. That will greatly reduce the impact that the card could create. The second effect of Wulfshaman is fine as it is, so don't add that silly restriction that ragnarok suggested.

[thekazu4u]

Sorry for the "life pints" on Wulfshaman lol.
How about if I ONLY made the special summoning from the graveyard, because the point of Wulfshaman is reusing the Wulfguards. sort of like this:
[color=#000000][font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif][size=3][left]When this card inflicts damage to your opponent's Life Points: Special Summon 1 "Wulfguard" from your hand or Graveyard. When this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard: you can add 1 "Wulfshaman" from your Deck to you hand.[/left][/size][/font][/color]

[color=#000000][font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif][size=3][left]I don't see your point on Wulfguard, I mean it is no more OP'd than venus. That can special summon 3 level 2s if it likes, plus it itself would stay out. Only thing I can think of is maybe bringing down the attack of Wulfguard a bit, because a free +1 of a 1800 ATKer does seem a bit good.[/left][/size][/font][/color]

[Sander]

[quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1329060072' post='5812603'][color=#000000][font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif][size=3][left]I don't see your point on Wulfguard, I mean it is no more OP'd than venus. That can special summon 3 level 2s if it likes, plus it itself would stay out. Only thing I can think of is maybe bringing down the attack of Wulfguard a bit, because a free +1 of a 1800 ATKer does seem a bit good.[/left][/size][/font][/color][/quote]

You don't see the point because you obviously cannot grasp the idea that Normal Summoning any Xyz from the Extra Deck is a bad card design for a card to have. So what if it's not as broken as TGU or Venus? Instant Rank 2 Xyz is still broken no matter how you look at it.